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DaveSauce posted:Grymforge question: This always happens I think.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 02:19 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 02:52 |
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Yeah, that's one of the situations where NPCs actually mean it when they say they're leaving. I think the only important thing you could miss from that is freeing the gnomes, so you should be good.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 02:21 |
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There is a merchant in that area but iirc he doesn't have anything especially good and you can still sell at the Myconid colony.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 03:53 |
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DaveSauce posted:Grymforge question: If you talk to Brithvar after killing Nere, he will tell you that they are going to be leaving because the cult uses the forge to travel between the two areas. So they are packing up and leaving because having a true soul die on their watch won't end well for the Duergar.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 04:04 |
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Wow that House of Grief fight was tough, I made the mistake of bringing Astarion when you really need more AoE. Had to save scum a fight for the first time in a very long time. Maybe my guys could have pulled it out but Astarion got instantly downed and everyone else was getting really low. Necrotic resistance elixirs and bringing Gale made a huge difference.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 04:35 |
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I am sequence breaking the hell out of act 1 right now, just got a piece of adamantine armor and haven’t even done the goblin camp yet
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 05:03 |
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Who gets the store if he does the latter? It’s the same as if Rolan died before act 3 (which I assume is going to happen in most people’s first play through; since you need to know to go after him in the shadowlands and rescue him before you long rest) There’s one of those magical hologram things of Larroakan manning the counter; and it keeps doing so oblivious to whether you’ve gone upstairs and killed him or not. It’s also worth mentioning that if Rolan is alive, you need to buy all the good stuff from the shop before you go and deal with Larroakan because otherwise Rolan will take it for himself and you’ll need to gently caress around with pick pocketing him if you want it.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 05:19 |
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space uncle posted:Wow that House of Grief fight was tough, I made the mistake of bringing Astarion when you really need more AoE. Had to save scum a fight for the first time in a very long time. Maybe my guys could have pulled it out but Astarion got instantly downed and everyone else was getting really low. Having powerful archers or even a monk that can mow through difficult enemies is great too. Much of the challenge from that encounter is how spread out enemies are, and the fact that they all have stuff they can do without moving into melee range. Chain lightning is amazing because it has a really long range. I really like making Astarion my spellcaster though. When you give him the robes and hood from act 3; give them a nice black/dark blue colour scheme; and put some nice half illithid veins on his face he’s got the best Palpatine vibes going on, then he just does chain lightning everywhere.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 05:24 |
I don't see how there's anything in the goblin camp worth worrying about enough to bother sequence breaking for. If you just do the map normally you'll hit 5 at the start of the camp and it's a cakewalk.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 05:34 |
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I didn’t say I was worried about the goblin camp. Sometimes you do things just because you can op
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 05:41 |
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I don't really see how it's sequence breaking when it's literally just a place you can go. It's not like a metroidvania where you need to glitch something out to get there or exploit unintended behavior. That said it's pretty difficult if you're like level 3 or something, sure.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:04 |
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The Lord Bude posted:Having powerful archers or even a monk that can mow through difficult enemies is great too. Much of the challenge from that encounter is how spread out enemies are, and the fact that they all have stuff they can do without moving into melee range. For sure, I dropped double Chain Lightnings with Maroheshkir, then a Cloudkill and a Sleet Storm. Between my Tav Bard and Gale we also had a dozen Counterspells lined up so the casters didn’t get to resolve much at all. Liberal use of Black Hole to group everybody up. Also remembered to use both Planar Ally and Danse Macabre ghouls out and set up a lot of meat shields.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:10 |
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I have to say, black hole being recastable every round, potentially being a bonus action, and also causing slow feels kind of busted. Hunger of hadar (or other aoe options) plus liberal application of black hole is just a gross combo, it's almost too good.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:14 |
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Oh my god what is this autistic thread’s preferred term for doing things out of the intended order so I can discuss it without stupid definition replies about it (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:23 |
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Oh, so there actually is a consequence to using the worms that I never noticed until now. In my first run, I never used any worms or even any [Illithid] dialog options at all. When I was offered the astral worm at the start of act 3, I was able to say no thanks and put it away. On the second run I was wormin' it up heavily and immediately said yes to the astral worm. But on this third run, I've eaten a few worms and used a few mind flayer dialog options, and this time when handed the astral worm, I had to make a DC 21 Wisdom save or be compelled to immediately use it. Basically the game making it harder for you to reverse course if you suddenly get cold feet, without fully railroading you into it.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:25 |
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Oh my god what is this ****** thread’s preferred term for doing things out of the intended order so I can discuss it without stupid definition replies about it Sequence breaking has to be performed in the sequence region of linear narrative games, otherwise it’s just sparkling route planning. space uncle fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jan 16, 2024 |
# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:27 |
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Ok I planned a sparkling route where I got some cool stuff prior to the way the game arrays content in front of you and I thought it was pretty neat
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:28 |
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Oh my god what is this autistic thread’s preferred term for doing things out of the intended order so I can discuss it without stupid definition replies about it mods please rename this poster's username to big baby bitch e: lmao, guy who wants someone literally fired for having off screen violence done to a video game cat and accuses everyone for not having empathy also uses autistic as an insult in 2024
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Oh my god what is this autistic thread’s preferred term for doing things out of the intended order so I can discuss it without stupid definition replies about it as a person with actual irl diagnosed autism spectrum disorder, please shut the gently caress up and stop using autistic as an insult. thank you
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:40 |
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Professor Beetus posted:I have to say, black hole being recastable every round, potentially being a bonus action, and also causing slow feels kind of busted. Hunger of hadar (or other aoe options) plus liberal application of black hole is just a gross combo, it's almost too good. ive only been on the receiving end of that but i agree
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Professor Beetus posted:e: lmao, guy who wants someone literally fired for having off screen violence done to a video game cat and accuses everyone for not having empathy also uses autistic as an insult in 2024 This was not me lmao good lord you’re a loving idiot
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:46 |
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:This was not me lmao good lord you’re a loving idiot Big Bowie Bonanza posted:A lot of real hardcore cool Gamers in this thread with a concerning lack of empathy lmao Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Like it’s extremely common in actual tabletop groups for 5e to have limits on sexual/violent content especially against children or animals established in session 0 to the point where there’s multiple well developed ways for people to covertly indicate they may not be comfortable with the current direction of a session. I am assuming the people laying into vargatron are not well adjusted enough to have ever lasted longer than a session or two before getting kicked out or the game fizzles out and the group reforms without them Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Honestly that’s totally fair and I’ve awarded you 10 Gamer points for requiring me to analyze my own responses to tension as well as my biases. I am able to walk past the meat department without crying because to my knowledge the meat is not either of my dogs or my cat or any pet beloved by any child known to me. They don’t even trick me into buying the meat. oh no I had you mixed up with the other guy who was bitching about the same thing and going on about people being edgelords, you got me. gamer points lol e: you can click the little ? underneath an avatar to see all the posts that user has made in the thread, took about 10 seconds of my time. you're the rear end in a top hat calling people autistic who previously blasted people as "edgelords" and having a concerning lack of empathy, that's actually pretty sad imo Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jan 16, 2024 |
# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:52 |
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Digging up an old argument that has nothing to do with what’s going on after you got confused about who I am is sad op
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 06:53 |
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Lol I have been way overcomplicating stealing from vendors with the bag stuff. All you need to do is shift click their entire inventory in the barter screen, then drag and drop it into your inventory (not into the barter area, into the leftmost area). Instantly steals all their poo poo and they don't care at all.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:02 |
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Trying to ascend in co-op was surprisingly difficult. Not the encounter but the rest of the group really trying to accidentally attack the non combatants. “But what do they do?” Examine them. “Ok so they must do something” Yes but I’m not dead so shoot the *flails everywhere*
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:03 |
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Well, I just found a new problem. Trying to bust Florrick out of jail without having to kill the entire fortress. I haul rear end out of the fortress and as soon as I do, she stops being controllable but we're still in combat so she charges in unarmed with predictable results.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:19 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Well, I just found a new problem. Trying to bust Florrick out of jail without having to kill the entire fortress. I haul rear end out of the fortress and as soon as I do, she stops being controllable but we're still in combat so she charges in unarmed with predictable results. (act 3) there's a second way out of the dungeon that doesn't involve hitting up the fortress. have a look around carefully
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:21 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Well, I just found a new problem. Trying to bust Florrick out of jail without having to kill the entire fortress. I haul rear end out of the fortress and as soon as I do, she stops being controllable but we're still in combat so she charges in unarmed with predictable results. Have you tried a sneaker exit?
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:21 |
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Wait there's another way out? F, I have done it this way both playthroughs except last playthrough it didn't aggro the entire top floor of the fortress as well. I ended up being able to kite out some of the enemies but not all of them by heading towards Rivington rather than the Lower City, so I only had to take out 8-ish enemies rather than 20-ish.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:29 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Wait there's another way out? F, I have done it this way both playthroughs except last playthrough it didn't aggro the entire top floor of the fortress as well. Yeah, there are some clues about it elsewhere in the city as well. I believe the pirate dock area down by Rivington has information on it.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:31 |
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Oh well let's just pretend I'm roleplaying my 8 intelligence and 10 wisdom. The fight got me to level 12 at least, now time to go around to all the shops and get the gear I want. And time for House of Hope so I can get some of the unique gear from there.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:38 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Well, I just found a new problem. Trying to bust Florrick out of jail without having to kill the entire fortress. I haul rear end out of the fortress and as soon as I do, she stops being controllable but we're still in combat so she charges in unarmed with predictable results. As far as I know you only have to kill the actual guards in the prison - as soon as you leave that floor nobody is hostile and they just let you walk out. Unless it changed in a recent patch.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:47 |
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The Lord Bude posted:As far as I know you only have to kill the actual guards in the prison - as soon as you leave that floor nobody is hostile and they just let you walk out. Unless it changed in a recent patch. Nope, that's how it was when I just did it. I was also able to get her to act as a summon so I had control over what she was doing (staying the hell out of the way).
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:51 |
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I thought the people on the main floor of the fort still knew who she was and therefore continued the battle.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 08:54 |
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Nope
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 09:14 |
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You can also just kill the guards in the prison before you talk to her; that way there is no risk of her getting hurt on the way out
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 09:24 |
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I just had her drink a potion of invisibility
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 11:06 |
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Ah, I thought the steel watch would be all over her so I shut down the steel watch first, which means the fortress is aggro to you.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 12:11 |
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Theres a crumbling wall behind the prison storage room that you can sneak her out of without having to go to the top level at all.
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# ? Jan 16, 2024 12:48 |
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exquisite tea posted:Theres a crumbling wall behind the prison storage room that you can sneak her out of without having to go to the top level at all. Yeah, I cast invisibility on her and then we walk over to this secret exit and I don't fight anybody to get Florrick out.
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