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The X-Wing books were eager to have fun. Like even if you're indifferent about Stackpole, he still wanted big spaceship clashes and dogfights instead of more endless author bickering about Jedi and the Force. Unless you've got something genuinely weird to say about the Force and its wielders, Star Wars got more interesting as you stepped further away from that. EDIT: And also KJA got stuck right in on the Force poo poo, his first big SW books were the loving Jedi Academy trilogy which were roughly 50% "hey wanna hear about the Totally Cool Jedi Stuff that I put into Star Wars comics?" and the other 50% trying to one-up the Death Star. disposablewords fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Jan 16, 2024 |
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I have never read a Star Wars book, and I'm happy to write them all off as worthless garbage. Come the gently caress on.
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Jan 16, 2024 01:47
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I read Return of the Jedi when I was 9. Its existence mostly confused me.
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disposablewords posted:The X-Wing books were eager to have fun. Like even if you're indifferent about Stackpole, he still wanted big spaceship clashes and dogfights instead of more endless author bickering about Jedi and the Force. Unless you've got something genuinely weird to say about the Force and its wielders, Star Wars got more interesting as you stepped further away from that. Did you ever read "I, Jedi" ? Michael Stackpole has his Mary Sue character Forrest Gump his way through the Jedi Academy trilogy. It's hilariously bad.
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Spazzle posted:I have never read a Star Wars book, and I'm happy to write them all off as worthless garbage. Come the gently caress on. I mean, they are. But so is the source material. And the x-wing books are good enough until you get to wraith squadron which is actually really good for ya sci-fi.
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Corran Horn is the worst. A ladies man, an expert pilot, a latent jedi, a cop. It’s just so bad.
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Armacham posted:Did you ever read "I, Jedi" ? Michael Stackpole has his Mary Sue character Forrest Gump his way through the Jedi Academy trilogy. It's hilariously bad. It's terrible. And notably where he went in hardest on Jedi poo poo. Thesis, proven.
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spiritual topics require more than a D&D dungeon master or wikipedia/encyclopedia level understanding of religion and metaphysics to write well, and because that's basically one of those academic specialties allegedly smart people dismiss as worthless, there's next to zero chance the average, successful storyteller is remotely familiar with it. Frank had more understanding of this stuff than Lucas, at least from a certain lens, but the good three star wars films deliberately keep what the force is pretty vague and use it sparingly. The reason isn't because over-use of those conceits is bad, but that there's nothing to explore if your understanding of that stuff is basic bitch tier, and again for most people it is basic bitch tier, and back then george lucas had enough people saying "no" to him that he kept that poo poo sparse and mysterious. I could riff on The Force so to be interesting for a narrative, but I'm not a good writer generally, so it's similarly not worth it. It's one of those areas where, being a good storyteller *and* having the requisite knowledge to tell that kind of story well are often mutually exclusive.
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TK-42-1 posted:I mean, they are. But so is the source material. And the x-wing books are good enough until you get to wraith squadron which is actually really good for ya sci-fi. I'm aware how bad Star Wars is. No argument there.
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I just saw there's gonna be a few showings if the 84 Dune movie in my town next month. Lots of other cities too. https://www.fathomevents.com/events/dune-40th-anniversary/
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deoju posted:I just saw there's gonna be a few showings if the 84 Dune movie in my town next month. Lots of other cities too. You'd better attend in a garbage bag, with aquarium tubing in your nose. Or a blue speedo
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deoju posted:I just saw there's gonna be a few showings if the 84 Dune movie in my town next month. Lots of other cities too. Thank you for this heads-up! The last time I went to see one of these in the theater it was Wrath of Khan, and it was the theatrical version, so it had a few hazily-remembered bits that never made it to DVD. Wonder if they'll hand out the explanation sheet before these showings like they did before the premiere? (Seriously, I'm not expecting the spicediver edit, but any extra scenes would be awesome.)
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Tree Bucket posted:Reverend Mother Guyus Maximum Riot Bimbo posted:It sucks but I read something, maybe from this thread, that kinda indicated the reverse is going on. Like maybe Brian isn't alright, you know? and KJA is taking advantage of him to get at the herbert estate? Seems like something you'd find in a post on jacurutu.com - whose denizens somehow manage to be even more bitter than folks on on SA. Riot Bimbo posted:spiritual topics require more than a D&D dungeon master or wikipedia/encyclopedia level understanding of religion and metaphysics to write well, and because that's basically one of those academic specialties allegedly smart people dismiss as worthless, there's next to zero chance the average, successful storyteller is remotely familiar with it. Frank had more understanding of this stuff than Lucas, at least from a certain lens, but the good three star wars films deliberately keep what the force is pretty vague and use it sparingly. The reason isn't because over-use of those conceits is bad, but that there's nothing to explore if your understanding of that stuff is basic bitch tier, and again for most people it is basic bitch tier, and back then george lucas had enough people saying "no" to him that he kept that poo poo sparse and mysterious. deoju posted:I just saw there's gonna be a few showings if the 84 Dune movie in my town next month. Lots of other cities too. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Jan 16, 2024 |
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Soul Dentist posted:
I remember making an effort post early in the forum days about how if you look at the claws compared to Han's head they are as big as butcher knives but sure Han just knocks this creature out instead of getting completely shredded immediately. If a ferret or a weasel was this size it would be a terrifying predator. also lmao remember the courtship of princess leia haha that just popped into my head but perhaps we've discussed this topic enough BlankSystemDaemon posted:
I'd be there if they did. Front and center
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https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1747322873164001414?t=hRGUkqH4ZIpS7NksmBdM-g&s=19 Never realized how much this looks like the camera circle from That 70s Show and now I like to think they're all high on spice listening to Gurney rip. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jan 16, 2024 |
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kiimo posted:oh come on what about the guy that wrote the character who is "too busy to work out" so he uses some device to work his body out for him making him ripped and when he sweats the oily residue that comes from his body smells so good it makes a soaking Princess Leia delusional with desire to have sex with the giant lizard that isn't even her species until friend-zoned Chewbacca snaps her out of it Was this before or after the guy with lightsabers attached to his knees?
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Cessna posted:Was this before or after the guy with lightsabers attached to his knees? Well before. Sweatman actually got an official action figure! For a while they were painting that particular story as the TRUE EU EXTENSION. It got a video game and toys and everything.
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Yeah Shadows of the Empire was a big multimedia project in 1996-97 that even had a new original soundtrack written for it. Nowadays it's mainly remembered for the N64 game.
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Cessna posted:Was this before or after the guy with lightsabers attached to his knees? 
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I'm up to God Emperor of Dune on my re-read, what a great book. I had completely forgotten about this Hwi Noree character the Ixians manufacture to gently caress with Leto. And the instant love triangle it puts him in with poor Duncan Idaho. I guess the deal with the Duncans is that they all eventually go nuts because of the shock of going from serving Atreides on Dune to the new Shai-Hulud Tyrant and his hosed up society? Is he also constantly engineering specific Idaho mates like Siona or do the Duncans sometimes go nuts in the Fish Speaker orgy and spread their genes all over the place? It's pretty funny how Duncan is outraged by all the loving he is being offered. On the earlier books, Dune Messiah is really just the epilogue to Dune. The current end of the Dune novel always felt cut off to me and Messiah has a banger of an ending. I really enjoyed Children of Dune, I had forgotten how Leto reveals himself to the people by doing poo poo like lifting a spaceship. I noticed this time how the characters expressed regrets about what happened to Alia because they each figured out what was going on and how to handle it independently, like setting up a specific ancestor and their crew to be your primary guides, but had no idea how to help her at that moment. It was pretty funny how the Baron turned her into some sort of lecher though. Turpitude fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Jan 16, 2024 |
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The end of Children of Dune is unfilmable. You can tell from the mini series when they tried
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Spazzle posted:I have never read a Star Wars book, and I'm happy to write them all off as worthless garbage. Come the gently caress on. I read Splinter of the Mind's Eye, which wasn't that bad.
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kiimo posted:The end of Children of Dune is unfilmable. Denis is like "Hold my spice coffee"
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DENIS: I thought I'd strike out in a new direction by making something humorless and filled with somber grandeur. Maybe have have incredibly large objects in the sky at some point. e: also there are spiders
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Tree Bucket posted:e: also there are bagpipes
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Arc Hammer posted:https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1747322873164001414?t=hRGUkqH4ZIpS7NksmBdM-g&s=19 That's an extremely pro click ty ropekid
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Sammy Hagar : What does David say, Piter? Piter De Vries : Van Hagar, he says, using the ancient tongue. The art of kanly is still alive in the Universe. He says it's all dogshit after 1984. Sammy Hagar : I made my peace gesture. The forms of kanly have been obeyed! Someone turn on Poundcake!
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Cool fact I recently discovered about the dunc bagpipes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By-3FZPlnaw&t=76s
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i read the whole yuuzhan vong arc, all twenty-odd books, when i was a teen and therefore stupid i liked them all, and they still have a place in my heart even though my brain rightfully classifies them as trash but the only good star wars novel is the "heart of darkness feat. mace windu" one  hell yeah
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Arc Hammer posted:https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1747322873164001414?t=hRGUkqH4ZIpS7NksmBdM-g&s=19
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40th anniversary imax tix claimed. Judging by seat selection I'm the only one so far for that showing. Anyways, I think I mentioned this in my first ever post in this thread, but KJA and failson came to my office one time during a promo tour for some execrable book or another. In fact I think it was one of their non-dune collaborations even. Anyways, I was their chaperone that day and took them to lunch and stuff and all the accusations and rumours are totally true. Literally every other sentence out of Herbert's mouth started with, "Daddy was this," or, "Daddy always said that." It was kind of eye boggling. KJA was just bouncing terrible ideas off the wall without a care in the world. He was living his best life and doesn't give a poo poo if people thinks he's a hack. Good on him in a way.
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I was gonna do a big read of the major Old EU books and quickly discovered after finishing the Og Thrawn Trilogy I was gonna have to dig into the KJA Jedi Academy books and left it alone
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KJA supposedly writes all his books by going on all day hikes, talking stream of consciousness into a tape recorder, and sending the result to his editor. I have to respect that level of not giving a gently caress
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StashAugustine posted:KJA supposedly writes all his books by going on all day hikes, talking stream of consciousness into a tape recorder, and sending the result to his editor. I have to respect that level of not giving a gently caress ...hell, I should try that, I always get tons of ideas while walking. Especially when listening to music.
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StashAugustine posted:KJA supposedly writes all his books by going on all day hikes, talking stream of consciousness into a tape recorder, and sending the result to his editor. I have to respect that level of not giving a gently caress It was then that Paul felt the prescience stir within his whoah ahh nearly tripped over my shoelace there haha mind as wheels of computation unfolded with all their infinite mathematical oh hey whoopsie almost trod in some dog doo there haha grandeur.
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Started watching Lynch Dune for the first time. Guys. This is pretty bad. The shield effect is hysterical, even allowing for the fact that it's 40 years old. Aliens came out two years later. Why does this look so cheap?? Guild navigator pretty cool. Fell asleep about half an hour in. Unclear if I'll be continuing.
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It's really good and you're drat fool, Smugworth
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I wish you people would post before watching 1984 Dune so we can have you watch the right one and you can jizz up the wall
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