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The Door Frame posted:More doing that hitting the edges of the door to break up any ice that could be holding it shut before yanking on the handle. My buddy pulled his handle right out of the door of his Civic All you have to do is give the door a quick body check/butt bump so it pushes in slightly and cracks all the ice around the door frame. Hitting the edges isn't necessary.
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KakerMix posted:Grab the handle and yank it open because any sensible vehicle has mechanical means to open the door directly tied to the handle. This is exactly how I snapped a door handle off of the Matrix (note: only one of the drat things is original at this point; makes me really glad it's a base model with unpainted handles). When we get winter weather, cars here wind up the same way - you have to beat the poo poo out of the edges of the door (all the way around) before trying to open it. It was particularly painful on the Outback because it had frameless windows that didn't quite seal the way they did when new. Might work for something with metal handles, but I can't think of anything being made today that still has those. Nitrox posted:In every Tesla I've seen, the window has to roll down a certain distance in order for the door to physically open. I do not know why this system exists, but it's certainly not something you want to deal with when everything is frozen. A lot of cars with frameless windows do this. You wind up damaging the seal on the window otherwise. I know the Nissan 350/370Z does it, so does the G35/G37, lots of BMWs still do it. randomidiot fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jan 17, 2024 |
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Sagebrush posted:Genuinely better looking than half the new cars for sale today. Such an ugly turd and yet you are wrong only in that you didnt go far enough,that shitbox is better looking and probably just plain better at least 3/4th's of all the modern poo poo on sale -_-
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Such an ugly turd and yet you are wrong only in that you didnt go far enough,that shitbox is better looking and probably just plain better at least 3/4th's of all the modern poo poo on sale -_-
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Such an ugly turd and yet you are wrong only in that you didnt go far enough,that shitbox is better looking and probably just plain better at least 3/4th's of all the modern poo poo on sale -_- mumbles something in AX4S clutch packs and solenoids You could at least get the 1st gen with a proper transmission...
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The Door Frame posted:These cars would both be next to each other on a new car lot Look at that Colony Park, so rad. randomidiot posted:This is exactly how I snapped a door handle off of the Matrix (note: only one of the drat things is original at this point; makes me really glad it's a base model with unpainted handles). When we get winter weather, cars here wind up the same way - you have to beat the poo poo out of the edges of the door (all the way around) before trying to open it. It was particularly painful on the Outback because it had frameless windows that didn't quite seal the way they did when new. Yeah but all that fumbling with trying to get the door handle popping out of the door itself so it can then ~sense~ your hand and then fire off another actuator to pop the door open with zero input from you is probably not very good for whatever the poo poo Tesla has inside. Smacking the edges of the door to break the ice is one thing, the other is you get to feel if the door is going to give or not.
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Okay, fair, you have me there. I always forget Tesla does stupid poo poo with doors. You would THINK it wouldn't fully unlatch the door with it being stuck, but I've never tried to see how they react to not being able to open.
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randomidiot posted:Okay, fair, you have me there. I always forget Tesla does stupid poo poo with doors. In that video the car isn't making very nice noises either with the initial handle pop nor the door itself when they stick their hand in the handle. Just lovely, lovely design all around.
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Miss the simpler days of heating my door key with a lighter and dumping lighter fluid into the lock.
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KakerMix posted:Look at that Colony Park, so rad. You can pop the door with your phone you don’t even need to touch the handle.
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bird with big dick posted:You can pop the door with your phone you don’t even need to touch the handle. The ice says "no"
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bird with big dick posted:You can pop the door with your phone you don’t even need to touch the handle. A Tesla's second greatest foe. 
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Sagebrush posted:Genuinely better looking than half the new cars for sale today. It looks like a demented jellybean.
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HDC posted:Went away? Nope, every coupe snd coupe-adjacent car with frameless windows (such as, for example, the 3-door BMW 1-series hatch) has it. TheBacon posted:My E82 1 series does that too. I don’t really think it went away as much as you think it did. I should’ve been more clear. Frameless windows largely went away in the sense that: 1) they used to be much more commonplace on sedans, etc, whereas now they’re almost exclusively found on convertibles and coupes. AFAIK Tesla is pretty unique in making their whole current lineup frameless (does cybertruck have frameless windows?), but I’m looking forward to being proven wrong 2) there have been way fewer coupes and convertibles produced after the 90s, and especially after the 00s
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Such an ugly turd and yet you are wrong only in that you didnt go far enough,that shitbox is better looking and probably just plain better at least 3/4th's of all the modern poo poo on sale -_- and only because the sedan is the ugliest version. that generation taurus wagon i think is genuinely kinda cool looking, in a SONY XPLOD kind of way:  imagine it with all the trim blacked out and the windows tinted and a nice set of wheels. i'd drive the poo poo out of that. and it's not just the taurus. compared to the average "small" "car" (CUV) today, the contemporary jellybean escort is almost beautiful  CommieGIR posted:It looks like a demented jellybean. i always got more of a "melted stick of butter" vibe Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jan 17, 2024 |
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My wife wanted a new RC350 but we ended up getting the IS350 instead, one of things I hated about the RC was the frameless windows I was really turned off by that for some reason lol
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frameless windows are mechanically worse in every way, but they do look like 300% cooler, so
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Wistful of Dollars posted:https://x.com/semtexfarmhand_/status/1747193213574676550?s=46&t=6HOSYVrXffESMo0NlyR0Lg Why U parkin' outside like a poor, fam? Cactus Ghost posted:wait the fuckin door handle is just a button AND plastic!
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CommieGIR posted:It looks like a demented jellybean. Sagebrush posted:i always got more of a "melted stick of butter" vibe
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Sagebrush posted:and only because the sedan is the ugliest version. that generation taurus wagon i think is genuinely kinda cool looking, in a SONY XPLOD kind of way: That's the Escort ZX2, the regular rear end Escort isn't quite as much a looker: 
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Sagebrush posted:and only because the sedan is the ugliest version. that generation taurus wagon i think is genuinely kinda cool looking, in a SONY XPLOD kind of way: In 25 years time someone is going to be posting current model Rav4s and Outlanders and complaining they don't make cars that look like that anymore.
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it's all nostalgia through rose-colored glasses and happens to every generation i had a 90s ford taurus when it was contemporary, and i assure you it was a giant pile of boring low quality poo poo falling apart around a lazy inefficient engine that shat out transmissions regularly and it looked bland/inoffensive then and seeing one now doesn't make me wistful about its design at least it wasn't the jelly bean taurus because jesus christ those were hideous then and are even worse in retrospect. and that escort isn't much better. there were good 90s car designs but those melted fords were not it Guinness fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Jan 18, 2024 |
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The jellybean taurus started the trend of making radios you can't replace easily gently caress it.
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Sagebrush posted:and only because the sedan is the ugliest version. that generation taurus wagon i think is genuinely kinda cool looking, in a SONY XPLOD kind of way: At least this is in the right thread already.
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Sagebrush posted:and only because the sedan is the ugliest version. that generation taurus wagon i think is genuinely kinda cool looking, in a SONY XPLOD kind of way: This car is objectively ugly as poo poo, had terrible performance, is of hideous parts bin build quality and had too many low-rent electronic "features" that broke 10 years before the engine got to 100k miles and that's why no one sees these anymore and also why no one buys the survivors at any inflated price above scrap value.
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you're not wrong (except for the ugly part) but lol @ the idea that a significant number of 1996 cars from any brand are still on the road. it's as good as any other product of that era
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This is what Volvo was making that same year BMW  I see these generations of cars all the time in LA, where nothing rusts. I haven't seen a running Jellybean Taurus in ages.
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To be fair, the statement isn't that the Taurus of that era was good - it's not - or wether it looks good - it doesn't- but that even as busted rear end ugly as it is, it actually looks better than most of the new crap being sold today and I tend to agree on that point. New cars and trucks are truly loving terrible in the looks dept.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:To be fair, the statement isn't that the Taurus of that era was good - it's not - or wether it looks good - it doesn't- but that even as busted rear end ugly as it is, it actually looks better than most of the new crap being sold today and I tend to agree on that point. New cars and trucks are truly loving terrible in the looks dept. Yeah there's a lot of old  or worse cars that look great compared to what's being churned out today. Hell, the boring functionality of the Chevette would be a breath of fresh air today.
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Sagebrush posted:you're not wrong (except for the ugly part) but lol @ the idea that a significant number of 1996 cars from any brand are still on the road. it's as good as any other product of that era It's already been mentioned but go to a not-rusting place and you see a significant amount of cars from 1996 and earlier still on the roads. I never see Taruses of any generation, but I see lots of Toyotas, Hondas, and heck even Rangers. A jellybean Taurus wishes it was an Accord or Camry. I disagree heavily with them being 'just as good'.
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Sagebrush posted:you're not wrong (except for the ugly part) but lol @ the idea that a significant number of 1996 cars from any brand are still on the road. it's as good as any other product of that era We got the jellybean Taurus and the Falcon of the same time is still evident while the Taurus fell apart. Also Japanese cars of the mid 90'sare far FAR better in being able to survive- Hell I got a decent Japanese car of that vintage still highly drivable and in vastly better condition than any jellybean Taurus that may survive. Hell we got 40 or 50 year old cars still driving about no issue or even older that are unrestored and original mechanicals.
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Seems like most of it is just a mixture of nostalgia for the old ones and familiarity breeding contempt for the current models. I remember people twenty plus years ago complaining about how utes these days are too big and ugly and if you get a crew cab the tray is too small, and the 300zx is a fat piece of poo poo etc. Now a 20 year old hilux is tiny and good and the 300zx cool as poo poo. Socrates likely complained that wagons these days lack style and they're all just so big and boring and the trays are too small because there's too many seats and frankly most people could get by with a chariot or on foot.
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Sagebrush posted:you're not wrong (except for the ugly part) but lol @ the idea that a significant number of 1996 cars from any brand are still on the road. it's as good as any other product of that era I’d wager a high percentage of FD RX7’s are still on the road and an even higher percentage of 993’s are still on the road!
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ili posted:Seems like most of it is just a mixture of nostalgia for the old ones and familiarity breeding contempt for the current models. We have eyes, it's not that deep. You don't need to have spent years at design school to see modern stuff looks wank.
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ili posted:Seems like most of it is just a mixture of nostalgia for the old ones and familiarity breeding contempt for the current models. I remember people twenty plus years ago complaining about how utes these days are too big and ugly and if you get a crew cab the tray is too small, and the 300zx is a fat piece of poo poo etc. Now a 20 year old hilux is tiny and good and the 300zx cool as poo poo. Socrates was probably right, hth.
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Guinness posted:i had a 90s ford taurus when it was contemporary, and i assure you it was a giant pile of boring low quality poo poo falling apart around a lazy inefficient engine that shat out transmissions regularly and it looked bland/inoffensive then and seeing one now doesn't make me wistful about its design I had one too that was everything you say it was. I hate them with a passion and that and the POS mustang I had before that (92 LX with the 4cyl  ) have ensured I will never buy another ford product
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orange juche posted:Socrates was probably right, hth. He was kind of a dick though I wish regular cars from 80-00 got the same "classic car" treatment of a lot of regular 50-75 cars and we could still see the nifty cars like E24's or Isuzu Amigo convertibles. Even at a car show, you'd see at least 30 cherry Dodge Darts before you saw a single Nissan NX in any condition, and that makes the boring garbage more special
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The Door Frame posted:He was kind of a dick though Depends whether Darryl was with him.
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