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TwoPair posted:It's the same kind of thing as that ball Peter had only it's super hosed up. Like one of those glitter bombs but with a "now you're blind" twist Matt Murdock goes blind saving someone from a radioactive gender reveal bomb.
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Bendis Daredevil is still probably the best Daredevil. It's really worth reading through and Brubaker's run picks up a ton of stuff from it.
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Heavy Metal posted:Right on, I gotta read more DD runs. Whatta guy. The Waid run was one I planned to do after finishing Miller, not as interested in the Bendis stuff myself stylistically. Was even thinking of reading the Brubaker run without the Bendis run, though that'd have some missing context I gather. The Bendis run is loving spectacular, if for nothing else than the Maleev art. I really think that Bendis' run is required reading, it's the foundation on which all subsequent Daredevil runs have been built.
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I think Miller's is the best or seems the coolest to me anyway. Even though Miller disappeared on a boat ride in the 90s never to be heard from again. I just haven't dug what I've tried from Bendis, his writing in general, the samples when I've looked into it and read about the run. Just doesn't look like my cup of tea in some ways, it's possible I could get into it but there's a lot of stuff more up my alley to check out. That Wake Up story for example, I'm like huh, not my thing I think. I like a different kind of neo-noir I guess. It's good that there's a wide variety of styles and tones they've tried over the years.
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Saoshyant posted:How would you rank Daredevil's recent runs (up to about 20 years back)? Uhm, gonna go 40 years so we can include stuff from the 80s, but Born Again is the best 6 issues of Daredevil ever written, then Bendis, then Frank Miller's first run, then Waid, then Brubaker, then Zdardsky. I need to read Anne Nocenti's run as a whole, the individual issues I've randomly read are really good and she invented Typhoid Mary, so she's probably just behind Frank Miller and ahead of Waid but I don't know enough to make a definitive decision. Waid, Brubaker and Zdarsky I could probably talk myself into switching the order on depending on my mood.
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Heavy Metal posted:I think Miller's is the best or seems the coolest to me anyway. Even though Miller disappeared on a boat ride in the 90s never to be heard from again. I just haven't dug what I've tried from Bendis, his writing in general, the samples when I've looked into it and read about the run. Just doesn't look like my cup of tea in some ways, it's possible I could get into it but there's a lot of stuff more up my alley to check out. That Wake Up story for example, I'm like huh, not my thing I think. I like a different kind of neo-noir I guess. It's good that there's a wide variety of styles and tones they've tried over the years. If you don't like the Bendis Daredevil, maybe modern Daredevil just isn't for you. Strange, but it happens.
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Jan 17, 2024 05:51
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However if you don't like Bendis's X-Men you have incredibly good taste.
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Yeah I mean I'm only going to try and talk it up so much, but anything else by Bendis is going to come up short when compared to Daredevil. Even his Ultimate Spider-Man, which overall was very good, had some rough parts whereas I don't think there are any misses at all in his Daredevil run. I just can't imagine trying to read modern Daredevil without reading the Bendis run.Rick posted:However if you don't like Bendis's X-Men you have incredibly good taste. I liked his X-Men. 
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Lord_Hambrose posted:If you don't like the Bendis Daredevil, maybe modern Daredevil just isn't for you. Strange, but it happens. I like the look of Waid's stuff, got the books on the shelf and read the first bit all those years back. And Brubaker's to me reads a bit cooler, just stylistically writing wise. It may be an outlier but not every fan of the stuff is into that one particular run. Or at least, it's not required to read those thousand etc pages of Bendis to try other runs first, it's all personal taste. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Jan 17, 2024 |
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I certainly like those runs better, but the Bendis stuff is so foundational that skipping it really is doing yourself a disservice! It's fine though, people skip important stuff all the time. At the end of the day, if you can't pick up a new writer and get what is going on in an issue or two it is either poorly written or you need to think more.
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I'm sorry, Bendis? The writer Bendis?
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Heavy Metal posted:By the way, did you peeps know Silver Surfer and Mantis were kissing in the 80s? Pretty cool. Also insert similarly cliche Bendis and Miller jokes here I guess!
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah I mean I'm only going to try and talk it up so much, but anything else by Bendis is going to come up short when compared to Daredevil. Even his Ultimate Spider-Man, which overall was very good, had some rough parts whereas I don't think there are any misses at all in his Daredevil run. I just can't imagine trying to read modern Daredevil without reading the Bendis run. Daredevil allowed him to play around as someone coming from crime comics, and the "criminals talk about TV shows or whatever" thing was really in vogue. There wasn't an ensemble cast, and Bendis' weaknesses really show when everyone has the same voice. The same voice? The same voice. Huh. The same voice.
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I like the tradition in modern Daredevil of each writer leaving with a major event in Daredevil's life for the next writer to have something to deal with. Bendis to Brubaker is probably the best example of that imo.
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Heavy Metal posted:Matt Murdock was a pretty cool good dude in the Miller and McKenzie stuff. Well a little hard boiled craziness in Miller but that's cool. Just curious what he did that makes him a (beloved) awful person later. Is it Bendis and Brubaker? You know besides all the poo poo he did with Heather
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Codependent Poster posted:
It's damning with faint praise a little to say that it's the highlight of the era, but I do think Bendis' X-Men is enjoyable on its own terms as well. It seriously engages with the idea of revolutionary Cyclops in a way no other book was willing to do.
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I loved the time displaced X-Men from beginning to end. Legit one of my favorite periods of X-Men.
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Edge & Christian posted:Also insert similarly cliche Bendis and Miller jokes here I guess! Fine, if you're gonna make me feel bad about it....
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Fittingly, Bendis jokes can only become cliché by repeating them.
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Picked up my pull list for the last 2 weeks today and the shop owner told me A covers for USM #1 are already going for ~$50. I saw some listings on Ebay around that price, but are copies of a comic that came out just a week ago really going for that much already?
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I've seen a lot of buzz around the issue online. Most positive word of mouth I've seen on a new comic in a long time. And I've heard people that were looking for a physical issue were having a hard time finding it so yeah probably. It's not too surprising.
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Jan 17, 2024 20:43
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Sell while it's hot imo it'll cool down later.
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Oh for sure, speculator poo poo is dumb. Don't pay $50 for a comic. Buy a reprint or get it digitally.
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srypher posted:Picked up my pull list for the last 2 weeks today and the shop owner told me A covers for USM #1 are already going for ~$50. I saw some listings on Ebay around that price, but are copies of a comic that came out just a week ago really going for that much already? I picked it up on day 1 and the shop had the Tony Daniels variant going for $25. Probably even more scarce now so yeah, I guess so. Definitely an issue that's going to get reprints.
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bobkatt013 posted:You know besides all the poo poo he did with Heather Looks like Denny O'Neil wrote the main tragic thing that happened, haven't read that one. But I know it's out on a limb saying a hard boiled vigilante is a cool good guy, he seems like he tried hard.
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X-O posted:I loved the time displaced X-Men from beginning to end. Legit one of my favorite periods of X-Men. They did a really a really good job of making distinct characters.
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Only time I've purposely sought out variant covers was the first Krakoa Hellfire Ball.
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Lobok posted:I picked it up on day 1 and the shop had the Tony Daniels variant going for $25. Probably even more scarce now so yeah, I guess so. Definitely an issue that's going to get reprints. I grabbed the stegman one because I just couldn't pass up an adorable Parker family photo.
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Air Skwirl posted:Only time I've purposely sought out variant covers was the first Krakoa Hellfire Ball. I've got all 3 years of the Nakayama Hellfire magazine style covers. They just look so cool I think. I'm a fan of all his covers for the most part. I have an X-Men with a green background and Rogue on it signed by Duggan I really like. I'm not collecting for profit, just stuff I think looks cool, so I have a lot of variants just because I like the covers. I have MU and DCU so I get all my reading from them there.
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X-O posted:I loved the time displaced X-Men from beginning to end. Legit one of my favorite periods of X-Men. I actually thought they were mostly good when they ended up in the hands of different writers, they weren't a bad concept on their own.
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I can't tell if the new Chip Zdarsky Avengers mini is supposed to be Dark Knight for Cap or Dark Knight for the Avengers as a whole I guess it'll depend on whether or not Thor shows up and whether or not Iron Man's pain in the rear end kid will be redeemed
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I hope Ryan North's run on Fantastic Four lasts at least another 10 years.
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OnimaruXLR posted:I can't tell if the new Chip Zdarsky Avengers mini is supposed to be Dark Knight for Cap or Dark Knight for the Avengers as a whole It feels like it's just for Cap but yeah it'll definitely matter how many more Avengers show up. I'm thinking since Avengers is in the title that there must be more coming. Definitely wanna see what Thor and maybe Vision are up to, since time means very little to them rantmo posted:I hope Ryan North's run on Fantastic Four lasts at least another 10 years. 
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Twilight seems to be primarily a Cap story, but since Kamala is on the upcoming covers I hope she gets a spotlight too.
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Codependent Poster posted:Twilight seems to be primarily a Cap story, but since Kamala is on the upcoming covers I hope she gets a spotlight too. Oh hey that reminds me, whatever came of Spider-Man being so sad about Kamala dying? I remember it seemed like they were setting up that spurring him to some kind of action.
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Gripweed posted:Oh hey that reminds me, whatever came of Spider-Man being so sad about Kamala dying? I remember it seemed like they were setting up that spurring him to some kind of action. Well you see
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Gripweed posted:Oh hey that reminds me, whatever came of Spider-Man being so sad about Kamala dying? I remember it seemed like they were setting up that spurring him to some kind of action. So about that
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Gripweed posted:Oh hey that reminds me, whatever came of Spider-Man being so sad about Kamala dying? I remember it seemed like they were setting up that spurring him to some kind of action. She came back to life two days later, so no biggie. He does help out against orchis now occasionally tough
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Gripweed posted:Oh hey that reminds me, whatever came of Spider-Man being so sad about Kamala dying? I remember it seemed like they were setting up that spurring him to some kind of action. Turns out… Also, between Daredevil and Fantastic Four this was just a delightful week in comics. Also also, since y’all have been talking DD, I went to read Bendis’s run and accidentally read Kevin Smiths. Absolute garbage.
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Peter's reaction was 100% a mea culpa about using a beloved fan favorite character as an accessory in a dumb storyline as an excuse to soft-reboot her into a different lineup of characters The older I get, the less tolerance I have for reading stories where the editorial mechanics of a story are really transparent Which is probably why I won't ever read another big DC crossover that is about re-organizing the continuity ever again. Marvel crossovers aren't exactly great, but I feel like they're more about "Here's a fun thing story-wise" more than "I want to move the pieces around on the game board."
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