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If the Commanders hire Johnson, do they keep #2 and draft Maye, or trade the pick for more picks and roll out Sam Howell for one more year?
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Nervous posted:There was a really in depth analysis of the running game here a few years back, and one its summaries/conclusions was that results like that are pretty much bog standard NFL stats for an RB. Nothing to indict over. Yeah, totally. Ford did just fine doing his best filling in for an all-pro QB and it definitely could have gone much worse.
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That all being said, I never got the sense that AVP did much. The offense felt stale. Even when Flacco was ripping it, we'd go entire halves without scoring. We would win anyway, because we scored so much in the other half, but it definitely wasn't consistent.
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https://twitter.com/tkyles39/status/1747673081433170400?t=422kjDtP6eeNFzgDSNSFgA&s=19 Edit: I'm a dummy, but good quote for Mayo Woozie66 fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jan 17, 2024 |
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Woozie66 posted:https://twitter.com/tkyles39/status/1747673081433170400?t=422kjDtP6eeNFzgDSNSFgA&s=19 lol Kraft, that ‘ole tug dummy
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A Sneaker Broker posted:If the Commanders hire Johnson, do they keep #2 and draft Maye, or trade the pick for more picks and roll out Sam Howell for one more year? I don't think a new owner is going to have the #2 pick and not use it on a QB. They gotta do something about the whole thing where Howell was on pace to break the all time sack record though. Surely some of that was on Sam but you can't send your shiny new franchise QB out there to eat 80 sacks. Howell was OK at times but I don't think he did anything to make himself obviously the future of the team. Keep him around as a cheap high end backup. Or do another 1 year deal with Brissett if you can fleece somebody into giving you a good pick for Sam I guess.
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Woozie66 posted:https://twitter.com/tkyles39/status/1747673081433170400?t=422kjDtP6eeNFzgDSNSFgA&s=19 huh? Mayo's saying racism does exist.
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Fate Accomplice posted:huh? Mayo's saying racism does exist. Wow you're absolutely right. Kraft baited and switched me. (And I'm an idiot.)
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A Sneaker Broker posted:If the Commanders hire Johnson, do they keep #2 and draft Maye, or trade the pick for more picks and roll out Sam Howell for one more year? do you want to see Howell die or something
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Parallax posted:do you want to see Howell die or something Trade back one time for Olu or Alt. Go IOL in round two. They can make it work. Also gonna have $84mil in cap space to work with via SpoTrac.
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Woozie66 posted:Wow you're absolutely right. Kraft baited and switched me. (And I'm an idiot.) Kraft ‘bating another guy is a new one
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Febreeze posted:I think firing Chan Gailey after 2 straight wildcard losses probably gave him the reputation. He also sacked Jimmy Johnson immediately after winning back-to-back Super Bowls.
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I mean I think the team being completely unprepared and straight up quitting for the last like month of the season is the bigger sign personally. Like, for as bad as the Patriots or Cardinals sucked, they were still going hard in some pretty drat pointless games.
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Jan 17, 2024 20:38
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Sirianni was also talking poo poo after the win at Arrowhead this season. He never learned.
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Jan 17, 2024 20:55
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3 of the Eagles last 4 coaches have gotten them to the Super Bowl. Before that it was Vermeil in the early 80s until Reid got them back 20 years later. I would give Sirianni 1 more season, especially if Tomlin is spending another year with the Steelers. I don’t think they are going to luck into another coach who can get them there.
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Didnt Sirianni get a few puff pieces last year about how his attitude was a perfect fit for philly? Maybe he let it go to his head too much...
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Master Stur posted:Didnt Sirianni get a few puff pieces last year about how his attitude was a perfect fit for philly? Maybe he let it go to his head too much... yeah back when his coordinators were winning games and he was busy crying during the national anthem and flapping his arms for the cable camera
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Master Stur posted:Didnt Sirianni get a few puff pieces last year about how his attitude was a perfect fit for philly? Maybe he let it go to his head too much... syzpid posted:3 of the Eagles last 4 coaches have gotten them to the Super Bowl. Before that it was Vermeil in the early 80s until Reid got them back 20 years later. I would give Sirianni 1 more season, especially if Tomlin is spending another year with the Steelers. I don’t think they are going to luck into another coach who can get them there. So that begs the question, what does Nick Sirianni bring to the table that warrants another year? Maybe an organization optics issue, but I don't know why they're gonna waste their time when I think next year's gonna be worse. shyduck fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jan 17, 2024 |
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Jan 17, 2024 21:07
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Did Siriani grow up an eagles fan or something? I know he's from a town in western NY but I don't know how team allegiances work out there.
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He actually didn't grow up.
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Kalli posted:I mean I think the team being completely unprepared and straight up quitting for the last like month of the season is the bigger sign personally. Like, for as bad as the Patriots or Cardinals sucked, they were still going hard in some pretty drat pointless games. Yeah, honestly at the start of the season, I didn’t think highly of Gannon, but seeing that he typically had his team about as prepared as one can given their talent level, and the team wouldn’t give up on him and every player seems to speak highly of him, I think the Cardinals might have lucked into a pretty good hire all things considered.
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Eagles fans including myself didn't like Gannon because he seemed cut from that Vic Fangio school of "just give up everything underneath" and it led to a lot of gnashing of teeth. But I'll admit he punked the poo poo out of Sirianni in Week 17. The onsides kick late was a masterstroke, because it was win-win
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Been 48 hours, and still no firing. 10-1 to 11-7. Someone has to atone for their sins.
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iirc Gannon's biggest sin was that he just would not adjust at halftime, which led to a lot of teams threatening comebacks until the Chiefs finally went and did it in the Super Bowl.
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shyduck posted:Eagles fans including myself didn't like Gannon because he seemed cut from that Vic Fangio school of "just give up everything underneath" and it led to a lot of gnashing of teeth. But I'll admit he punked the poo poo out of Sirianni in Week 17. The onsides kick late was a masterstroke, because it was win-win Last year, there were also a lot of questions about how much of the defensive success was due to him and how much was due to an absolutely stacked defensive line. Now, after watching pretty much that same line wear down over the course of the year because they didn't get rotated to the same degree, it's pretty clear that he had a big hand in everything.
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Seems like there's enough evidence there to say Gannon put together what he thought was the best defensive plan possible given their dl depth and mummified secondary? Do the Cardinals adjust their plan at the half this year? Maybe the lack of adjustments was a Sirianni problem moreso
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My dream is Siranni picks up the phone to fire Matt Patricia, but instead receives a call that he himself is fired. Bill Belichick becomes the coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, with his first act to install Matt Patricia as DC for life
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The Eagles secondary was significantly better last season, and I think that's due to personnel more than scheme. They were all healthy and the older guys like Bradberry hadn't fallen off a cliff yet. CJGJ leaving didn't help. The new guys they brought in just haven't been effective. Byard was released by the Titans for a reason. Blankenship plays hard but is always, always injured. Maddox also dealt with injuries. Robe is terrible. Bradberry is cooked. Slay might be cooked now. The personnel situation is just a mess. edit: this bring up another related point: the Eagles haven't been all that great at developing talent lately. Their talent either comes in as a Georgia/Alabama level elite college athlete with most or all the tools already or they're a good vet looking for a 1-year deal. If you're not in one of those categories, there's a bit of a struggle. I'm sure that's not a unique case, but in recent years they don't seem to elevate anybody. shyduck fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jan 17, 2024 |
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The greatest scenario is what if the Eagles kept Steichen for one more year, then fired Sirianni now and promoted Steichen to HC.
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CapnAndy posted:iirc Gannon's biggest sin was that he just would not adjust at halftime, which led to a lot of teams threatening comebacks until the Chiefs finally went and did it in the Super Bowl. https://www.businessinsider.com/peyton-manning-halftime-adjustments-not-real-2023-1
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shyduck posted:The Eagles secondary was significantly better last season, and I think that's due to personnel more than scheme. They were all healthy and the older guys like Bradberry hadn't fallen off a cliff yet. CJGJ leaving didn't help. The new guys they brought in just haven't been effective. Byard was released by the Titans for a reason. Blankenship plays hard but is always, always injured. Maddox also dealt with injuries. Robe is terrible. Bradberry is cooked. Slay might be cooked now. The personnel situation is just a mess. I mean, it's worth noting that Dennard Wilson was the DB coach last year and left after losing the DC slot to Desai. Now he's in Baltimore, and they have one of the most elite secondaries in the league. Guys getting old is definitely a factor, but I think at least some continuity with the past couple years could have kept the cliff from getting too steep.
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Master Stur posted:Seems like there's enough evidence there to say Gannon put together what he thought was the best defensive plan possible given their dl depth and mummified secondary? Do the Cardinals adjust their plan at the half this year? Maybe the lack of adjustments was a Sirianni problem moreso Yeah no the Cardinals outplayed their projections. The defense sucked because the personnel was bad but Gannon was better than he should have been. The Cardinals could use defensive support but frankly Ossenfort might know what he's doing with the draft. I think Sirianni is a Jabroni who wears players thin and isn't enough of a lovable goof like a Campbell or Tomsula to play it off as his personality. Also unlike Campbell he doesn't loving do anything and has felt like Howie's Backpack the entire time
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Black Lighter posted:I mean, it's worth noting that Dennard Wilson was the DB coach last year and left after losing the DC slot to Desai. Now he's in Baltimore, and they have one of the most elite secondaries in the league. Guys getting old is definitely a factor, but I think at least some continuity with the past couple years could have kept the cliff from getting too steep.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:The greatest scenario is what if the Eagles kept Steichen for one more year, then fired Sirianni now and promoted Steichen to HC.
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CapnAndy posted:I mean, that'd rule, but it's not like they willingly let Steichen go.
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