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I've had several good taxi encounters where they start on "the thing about these immigrants is -" and my American wife cuts across them with "WELL IM AN IMMIGRANT". It's pretty fun, you either get immediate backpedaling, or else some desperate attempt to categorise her as "one of the good ones" and get back on track, or sometimes insanely funny frosty silence. Regardless, the lesson is that this poo poo is often paper thin and not very considered and if you push back on it at all you can shame them into stfu. Only recommended if you feel safe to do so of course
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Jan 18, 2024 19:43
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BalloonFish posted:Yeah. They must be out there. Isn't 2017 the high water mark for Labour votes in England? Corbs got more votes that year than Blair did in 1997. Nah Corbs got 12.9m in '17 and Blair got 13.5m in '97. And of course the UK population has gone from 58 to 67m in that time. So Blair was more popular in '97. But Corbyn got a higher number of votes than Blair got in any other election.
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Jan 18, 2024 19:51
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Failed Imagineer posted:In my mind that's what you all sound like. lol this thread is as bougie as gently caress they all sound like David Cameron
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Jan 18, 2024 19:52
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Failed Imagineer posted:I've had several good taxi encounters where they start on "the thing about these immigrants is -" and my American wife cuts across them with "WELL IM AN IMMIGRANT". It's pretty fun, you either get immediate backpedaling, or else some desperate attempt to categorise her as "one of the good ones" and get back on track, or sometimes insanely funny frosty silence. It's a bit like the "it's impossible to tell if someone actually believes in God or just says they do and does all the ritual and says all the prayers" "God will know" "yeah but I want to kick the poo poo out of them now" debates that plagued religious discourse back when a lot of it was still done with sticks. They believe that everyone believes that immigrants are ruining the place because the papers say that and their friends say that and the people they chat to either agree or stay quiet, so it's a 'safe' avenue of conversation until the minute someone pushes back and then it's clear that it's not your tribe any more. A bit like how most of the boomer "I hate my wife" jokes died off after men found out that you can actually be friends with women, who are sometimes in places outside the house. They just changed focus to "I hate feminists" and then "I hate blue haired woke gender studies students" to shift focus while letting a few more people in. Still cunty behaviour.
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Jan 18, 2024 19:53
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Skulker posted:lol this thread is as bougie as gently caress they all sound like David Cameron It all sounds the same when me and the boys get together and do our bad English accents that roam wildly from Danny Dyer to Jacob Rees-Mogg. E: also, bougie as gently caress? I know 99 has a Tesla and lives on a diet of swan necks, but most of the thread is like "I have lived on baked beans for eight years and my only hobby is PS1 games I scavenge from the bins behind Oxfam"
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Jan 18, 2024 19:54
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Failed Imagineer posted:I've had several good taxi encounters where they start on "the thing about these immigrants is -" and my American wife cuts across them with "WELL IM AN IMMIGRANT". It's pretty fun, you either get immediate backpedaling, or else some desperate attempt to categorise her as "one of the good ones" and get back on track, or sometimes insanely funny frosty silence. Yeah I went to buy some power converters (at Tosche Station) when we first moved here and the guy I bought them from was going on about immigrants and I said "Well I'm an immigrant" which was already obvious from my accent and the fact I was buying 120-240v converters from Canadian to British plugs, and he went on with the "but I'm fine with people who come here legally because my wife is Chinese and blah blah blah" but it was still some xenophobic poo poo. E: Also the guy owned a loving business where the main product was converters for plugs/power systems not from Canada so like, surely 95+% of his customers are probably immigrants? Seems a weird field to go into. Oh *and* I just remembered the guy was clearly from some kind of middle-eastern background so even more bizarre but just goes to show that many people are *extremely* unaware of/have skewed views of class interests. Double Edit: And it's even worse because unless you're a native/First Nations person in Canada then you're all fundamentally immigrants going back far enough. WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Jan 18, 2024 |
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Jan 18, 2024 19:54
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Skulker posted:lol this thread is as bougie as gently caress they all sound like David Cameron fr
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Jan 18, 2024 19:58
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Guavanaut posted:Also I'm not sure a bunch of them believe it. They believe in the belief in it. Yes I very much think this is it Guavanaut posted:Still cunty behaviour. And this
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Jan 18, 2024 19:58
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Guavanaut posted:Good post. I guess I'm just a little frustrated that people don't stop and think if something makes sense. It's always fun to hear people say mainstream media is worthless but believe whatever they pump out.
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Jan 18, 2024 20:03
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Yeah if there's something to make you hopeful it's that (at least, I reckon) 95+% of these people don't actually have strong beliefs in this poo poo that they've thought deeply about and decided that it must be true. It's all just a function of never having stopped to think about poo poo. It's cargo-cult racism, basically. And it's kind of understandable. It's a very easy to see that "there are more foreign-looking/sounding people around here than there used to be", and "things are getting harder for working people". Both of those things are undeniably true. And it's a really simple, easy narrative and an "obvious" explanation that one is the fault of the other. All it takes are for a few people to buy it and repeat it enough and if you're not the sort of person to stop and think and say "hang on a minute, immigrants have a hard time of things too, maybe the problem is systemic" then it's much easier to integrate that into your own "beliefs", even if you don't really *believe* it. But yes. Still cunty.
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Jan 18, 2024 20:03
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Lidl rarely has swan anymore anyway.
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Jan 18, 2024 20:08
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Lidl rarely has swan anymore anyway. My local LIDL had poop the other day 
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Jan 18, 2024 20:10
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fuctifino posted:My local LIDL had poop the other day strange, thats not the Loaf section...
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Jan 18, 2024 20:11
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kecske posted:
The spilled drink down her front gets me every time.
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Jan 18, 2024 20:13
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On the subject of poo poo: https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1748044478621897137
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Jan 18, 2024 20:15
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Jan 18, 2024 20:19
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fuctifino posted:My local LIDL had poop the other day Is that a kernel of sweetcorn sticking out of the right side of it? As is the fashion these days. 
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Jan 18, 2024 20:34
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I wonder where supermarkets get their floor tiles from.
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Jan 18, 2024 20:47
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https://twitter.com/freddiejh8/status/1748044406081335652 It's good that people are trying to address this.
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Jan 18, 2024 20:49
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I don't know that the bar is the best place to get an answer out of him but I suppose the dispatch box hasn't been very effective historically either so you might as well try getting him shitfaced.
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Jan 18, 2024 20:57
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1957 isn't even that long ago. I'm reliably informed it's one year after the first Eurovision song contest started and some other nonsense in Egypt that no-one cares about. I'm only interested if it's like 1488 or something.
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Jan 18, 2024 21:00
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grobbo posted:Every once in a while I still think back to that infamous article where she goes to a murder victim's neighbourhood in Bristol, tries and fails to cheat the toll on Clifton Suspension Bridge, and then concludes her article by sorrowfully shaking her head at a world where murder is OK and yet bridge tolls exist.
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Jan 18, 2024 21:07
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I think she's actually a champion of tenants rights now.
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Jan 18, 2024 21:09
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Champion of tennants more like.
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Jan 18, 2024 21:10
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I was thinking of that exact article, lol. She also wondered how people could just drive past without performatively honking or dipping their lights in respect, then made up a story about how she got to the toll bridge and someone gave her 50p and said "don't worry, we're not all monsters" completely unprompted. quote:I don’t have 50p and try tossing 30p and a White Company button into the bucket. It doesn’t work.
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Jan 18, 2024 21:31
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I wonder where supermarkets get their floor tiles from. the supermarket
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Jan 18, 2024 21:34
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Checks out
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Jan 18, 2024 21:36
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Rishi Sunak hit by new no confidence letters from Tory MPs quote:Rishi Sunak has been hit by new letters of no confidence from Conservative MPs amid fresh questions over his leadership.  You can bet that there's a room full of eager backstabbers wanting to do the last 10 months of leadership. I say let them fight
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Jan 18, 2024 21:38
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I'd be eyeing up that prime ministers pension
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Jan 18, 2024 21:49
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Can’t wait for another fascinating round of “how many letters are there”. Never gets dull
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Jan 18, 2024 21:49
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could probably get an honour for like a grand?
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Jan 18, 2024 21:51
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NotJustANumber99 posted:could probably get an honour for like a grand? Might help you get someone to sort out the internet installation
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Jan 18, 2024 21:59
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Failed Imagineer posted:Might help you get someone to sort out the internet installation Im not sure an MP is going to speed that up.
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Jan 18, 2024 22:09
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Beefeater1980 posted:I had a very educational conversation with a taxi driver today. I learned: There again, I suppose most younger people are just using ubers and doing storytime videos about how they got sucked off. smellmycheese posted:I know we don’t like reading The Mail here but that article is truly unhinged. She’s gone back to her old tactic of just completely making ludicrous poo poo up. Guavanaut posted:Yeah but if you're in that bubble of racist tabloid nonsense also being talked about, the government did Brexit, and the plant closure is because of the green agenda, the WEF, and 'the Asians' (Tata Steel). Central to understanding this mindset is also understanding that these are people who have certain understandings about how strong Britain is, and will scream at you if you present them with anything that forces them to think about it in a different way, like the fact that Britain has two steel manufacturing plants and both of them are being sold off. Failed Imagineer posted:E: also, bougie as gently caress? I know 99 has a Tesla and lives on a diet of swan necks, but most of the thread is like "I have lived on baked beans for eight years and my only hobby is PS1 games I scavenge from the bins behind Oxfam"
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Jan 18, 2024 22:22
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Bobby Deluxe posted:You've also got to bear in mind that having this kind of mindset also involves disbelieving things like britain only having two steel manufacturing capabilities as woke nonsense - everybody knows British Steel is the best in the world (because that was approximately correct enough in the 1960s, which is the last time these fuckers had to learn a new fact). Very well put. See also: "Jerumy Croblyns hates Britain because he wants to make it better [therefore implying that it isn't a utopian sceptred isle right now]". E: \/ \/ \/ There is definitely an element of that. I find it crops up a lot in the anti-15-minute-city stuff - an insistent pride in grinding, spirit-crushing, exhaust-wreathed commutes in expensive, tedious cars on overcrowded, potholed, badly-designed, under-capacity roads as "ordinary people just Getting On With It and going to work Without Making A Fuss". While cycling, walking, footpaths, tree-lined streets, mixed-density housing etc. is for idle, out-of-touch, wealthy layabouts who Don't Get It. E2: This sort of poo poo https://twitter.com/TottenhamConse1/status/1621066006457372674 \/ \/ \/ BalloonFish fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jan 18, 2024 |
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Jan 18, 2024 22:29
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The Trashfuture 'It's poo poo here, it's supposed to be poo poo, it's how we like it' has always rung true to me. The 2019 thing that really sticks out to me is how angry people got it you suggested things could be improved.
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Jan 18, 2024 22:32
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JoylessJester posted:The Trashfuture 'It's poo poo here, it's supposed to be poo poo, it's how we like it' has always rung true to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g28IyE-4Zi8
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Jan 18, 2024 23:04
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car owners: poor (£13k+ to buy) cyclists: rich (£200+ to buy)
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Jan 18, 2024 23:06
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Oh yeah, that's the good stuff: quote:I tell them I’m spooked, walking here. ‘Don’t be spooked,’ one says. ‘Residents are campaigning to get brighter street lights installed.’ So the antique, lovely ones are to be replaced by ugly ones because of something even uglier.
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Jan 18, 2024 23:10
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Julio Cruz posted:car owners: poor (£13k+ to buy) wish i could find a car that cost less than 13k. but can't be done.
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Jan 18, 2024 23:20
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