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Dawgstar posted:The Muscle Buster's never been Joe's ultimate killshot either, right? That's the Rear Naked Choke. In ROH Joe really didn't have one finisher he won every match with. He'd win with the Muscle Buster and Choke but also with other submissions and occasionally the Island Driver or a big lariat and brainbuster.
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coconono posted:There was a period in TNA where Dutch Mantell had mandated that no matches end on submissions so he'd choke a dude out, they'd escape and he'd hit them buster for the finish. Dutch Mantell is a blithering idiot
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Seams posted:https://x.com/eclecticradical/status/1748003919480123792?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g Didn't Lou Thesz talk poo poo about Harley Race being too flashy?
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Lamuella posted:Didn't Lou Thesz talk poo poo about Harley Race being too flashy? Lou Thesz thought the wrestlers who came after him sucked except for the shoot style guys who he was willing to do appearances for.
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fart blood posted:Dutch Mantell is a blithering idiot among other things I'm legally not allowed to disclose...
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MassRafTer posted:Lou Thesz thought the wrestlers who came after him sucked except for the shoot style guys who he was willing to do appearances for. The funny thing is that even older wrestlers probably thought Thesz looked like a flashy idiot and wondered why he jumped up to put his crotch in people's faces as a finish.
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Dawgstar posted:The funny thing is that even older wrestlers probably thought Thesz looked like a flashy idiot and wondered why he jumped up to put his crotch in people's faces as a finish. And so it goes, generation after generation. The drat upstart kids become old guys who hate these drat upstart kids.
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Every generation hates the one that comes after it. The only real pro wrestling is stalling for 45 minutes then 15 minutes working a headlock leading to a time limit draw and/or curfew. Gotta get them back in the building next week brother, can't give away the farm in one match.
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Jan 18, 2024 22:27
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coconono posted:There was a period in TNA where Dutch Mantell had mandated that no matches end on submissions so he'd choke a dude out, they'd escape and he'd hit them buster for the finish. Don't let Dutch watch MMA. Just a bunch of bad fighters tapping out all the time. Where are all the real fighters who never give up?
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Jan 18, 2024 22:31
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Lamuella posted:Didn't Lou Thesz talk poo poo about Harley Race being too flashy? That was Gotch: https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/6re22b/karl_gotch_referring_to_harley_race_as_a_clown/?rdt=40641
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https://x.com/sheslaydaily/status/1747807387480887772?s=46&t=ZOgtjsgQ2j9jWfsJ7rwNNA I just need you guys to know. I’m not being worked
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The_Rob posted:https://x.com/sheslaydaily/status/1747807387480887772?s=46&t=ZOgtjsgQ2j9jWfsJ7rwNNA These folks must have hated it when Punk was talking about Hangman after the show while he was in AEW.
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Shard posted:These folks must have hated it when Punk was talking about Hangman after the show while he was in AEW. Of course, these people have standards, in fact I'd say they have twice the amount as the average fan.
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Jan 18, 2024 22:46
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We must hold the Young Bucks accountable
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the young bucks literally showed up with cartoon villain mustaches. it makes a lot of sense why nothing in wrestling is ever subtle with fans that are this dumb
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JUNGLE BOY posted:the young bucks literally showed up with cartoon villain mustaches. it makes a lot of sense why nothing in wrestling is ever subtle with fans that are this dumb aew has always been at its best when the blue checkmark antis hate it the most. that's the only barometer i need to know we're back
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JUNGLE BOY posted:the young bucks literally showed up with cartoon villain mustaches. it makes a lot of sense why nothing in wrestling is ever subtle with fans that are this dumb subtly, like subtext, is for cowards
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Seams posted:We must hold the Young Bucks accountable "They were BRAGGING about taking the belts off FTR!!"
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Dawgstar posted:"They were BRAGGING about taking the belts off FTR!!" God remember how good that tag match was at All Out?
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yea ok posted:aew has always been at its best when the blue checkmark antis hate it the most. that's the only barometer i need to know we're back
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fart blood posted:Anyone who talks about “ring psychology” is a giant red flag. I was thinking recently about you really don't see people talk about psychology particularly often anymore. Which is probably for the best because it never really seemed a very helpful word, seemed to be used to describe wildly different concepts from "they do nothing but punches & restholds" to simply "follows rules/logic that are consistent within themselves and the environment they occur in". IDK, cool moves without much of the connective tissue between them is pretty much not for me, but it was once so I'm not going to waste time being mad someone else likes it.
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The_Rob posted:https://x.com/sheslaydaily/status/1747807387480887772?s=46&t=ZOgtjsgQ2j9jWfsJ7rwNNA Also, literally CM Punk’s second or third promo back in WWE cotnained a Jack Perry joke, to which the crowd went even less than mild.
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The single most exciting thing in wrestling is when a guy kicks out of a huge move at 1 and the other guy has to hit him with a barrage of tubes to make him stay down
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Seams posted:We must hold the Young Bucks accountable big fan of when people say stuff like that about bucks/perry but just sort of dodge the topic of how much responsibility the common factor in their backstage fights might have
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The same people complaining about Hook kicking out at 1 and how finishers mean nothing in AEW are going to call a Cody/Roman match with 6 spears and 3 Superman punches the best match of the decade.
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My favorite version of people kicking out of 1 is when they are hit with their own finisher or a finisher that has significant meaning to them - like someone using the finisher of their best friend/boyfriend
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The_Rob posted:https://x.com/sheslaydaily/status/1747807387480887772?s=46&t=ZOgtjsgQ2j9jWfsJ7rwNNA Isn't this the lady in the front row who was very visibly angry at Hangman when he came back at All Out
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Seams posted:https://x.com/eclecticradical/status/1748003919480123792?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g modern wrestling is no different from shadows projected onto the cave wall. I am not a crackpot
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Tampa Bae posted:The same people complaining about Hook kicking out at 1 and how finishers mean nothing in AEW are going to call a Cody/Roman match with 6 spears and 3 Superman punches the best match of the decade. Yeah but those will have Cody and Roman holding their head in disbelief while they make bug eyes for the camera. It’s storytelling.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Yeah but those will have Cody and Roman holding their head in disbelief while they make bug eyes for the camera. It’s storytelling. It's really cool when there's over-the-top emoting in ring due to a foe not quitting or when a heel showboats instead of finishing the job and gets punished for it imo
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Coolness Averted posted:It's really cool when there's over-the-top emoting in ring due to a foe not quitting or when a heel showboats instead of finishing the job and gets punished for it imo 
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Coolness Averted posted:It's really cool when there's over-the-top emoting in ring due to a foe not quitting or when a heel showboats instead of finishing the job and gets punished for it imo yup. makes it look like a real fight
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If Okada does indeed go to AEW I would have to think NJPW might start reconsidering their partnership but I dunno really how all that works. But it does seem bad for a lot of your big stars to keep leaving to work with your partner instead
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https://twitter.com/MovieMarvin/status/1748177939676397857 "The forbidden door swings one way" says actual muppet.
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apophenium posted:If Okada does indeed go to AEW I would have to think NJPW might start reconsidering their partnership but I dunno really how all that works. But it does seem bad for a lot of your big stars to keep leaving to work with your partner instead It’s kind of an interesting place to be because it’s not like they’re poaching the hottest youngest stars or whatever. I mean, Jay, Will, and Okada are young in general but they also have done everything to do in NJPW and were all there for ages. Kind of feels inevitable they’d lose some names like that at some point. At least with AEW they still have a good chance of working together.
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What about sending Mox over for a ~6-month excursion? He beats Naito for the title, and then turns heel, betraying his protege Shota Umino. The main event scene in AEW is going to be super-congested, so send Mox and various members of the BCC over to NJPW for a few months, then boom, Shota wins the belt off of his dastardly former mentor, and he gets elevated to the main event scene, chasing the heel gaijin back to the US. We signed your #1 guy, so we'll send our #1 over to build up Okada's successor.
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Kvantum posted:What about sending Mox over for a ~6-month excursion? While it would be really funny to see how mad this would make everyone it would probably make Mox the maddest to be away from his family for six months so probably a bad idea.
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I mean do you think NJPW would prefer all their top guys go to WWE and never see them again?
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Drakkel posted:I mean do you think NJPW would prefer all their top guys go to WWE and never see them again? let’s go to reddit for their take quote:This is like having a wife that’s leaving you for your friend but you can still have her for a night or two every year instead of her just leaving outright for another man. You’re the bitch now if you prefer the former.
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