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Zamujasa posted:Maybe you should've read the pins first Also, 45 of the most recent pins are stupid-rear end in-jokes and memes that probably should have been unpinned long ago.
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MrQwerty posted:well then how does it get crispy Oh boy. How to explain this...?
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Original_Z posted:Also, 45 of the most recent pins are stupid-rear end in-jokes and memes that probably should have been unpinned long ago. and racism
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:Two things here. First, forums require financial upkeep for hosting and moderation, two things absolutely nobody wants to shell out for. SA exists because we've gamified the system so that twelve perma'd users' reregs and a smattering of otherwise banned reregs pay these costs. That's lightning in a bottle most cannot capture. not just that, but forums also require you to sign up (having to register for yet another site? fun), are often their own closed things (no omni-present "app" to notify you of every new post/message), and are largely quiet, inactive, or dead almost everyone's already on discord, joining is as easy as pushing a button, and once you do join a server it sits next to the other ones forums also have a lot of upkeep even if they aren't expensive to host, while with discord you offload all of that onto, well, discord, who does all of that poo poo for you; no pesky upgrades to worry about or security updates or dealing with setting up/configuring captchas and other poo poo that's not to say forums should be dead, but it's like stairs versus an escalator; people're gonna take the easy route
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skooma512 posted:and racism This is actually the starboard
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Zamujasa posted:(no omni-present "app" to notify you of every new post/message) This is the biggest benefit forums offer 
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deep dish peat moss posted:This is the biggest benefit forums offer don't get me wrong, i agree. but in terms of "getting and keeping people around", it does make it a little more difficult. some forums have options that let you get emailed when a new reply is posted in threads, but then you can fall into a habit of only checking it when you get emailed; sort of like how some people on sa stick only to their bookmarks view rather than browsing the forum indexes, so they rarely see new threads.
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Zamujasa posted:(oh, you mean there's 50 pins and none of them actually answer anything and the search doesn't work? well, that's still your fault) Discord search is actually really good. Cerekk posted:it was adequate at that, but worse than teamspeak and ventrillo which already filled that use case perfectly well This is some contrarian revisionism. TS and Ventrilo were awful. Ventrilo in particular was quite expensive so you never had enough slots on your server and you were always at the mercy of the guy who paid for it.
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And you were always at the mercy of BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS
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Zamujasa posted:don't get me wrong, i agree. but in terms of "getting and keeping people around", it does make it a little more difficult. If I open the "social" tab in gmail I'm hit with thousands and thousands and thousands of notifications Facebook apparently sends me any time anything happens anywhere ever.
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~Coxy posted:Discord search is actually really good. the other hot voice chat solution was mumble, and the developers behind that couldn't be bothered to add client-side volume controls because "people should just fix their mic" credburn posted:If I open the "social" tab in gmail I'm hit with thousands and thousands and thousands of notifications Facebook apparently sends me any time anything happens anywhere ever. and at some point you get tired of seeing it, stop reading it, stop going to the website, etc. discord has the advantage of just being there.
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~Coxy posted:Discord search is actually really good. Even if that's completely true, you still need to add "for now" at the end of the sentence
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:Thread's a reading club now, nothing we can do about it: It was interesting
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Quote-Unquote posted:lol this reminds me of a thread on here many years ago (I wanna say mid-2000s) where there was some brand of security camera that was connected to the internet and had literally no authentication to access it by default. If I remember right, people found shitloads of these cameras via port scanning. You could just pop the IP into your browser and gain full control of the camera, including swivel, tilt and zoom. It was a matter of just trying different ones until you found an unsecured one. A whole bunch of office workers got terrorised by the security cameras going berzerk. I was playing around one time and found some type of camera in a Japanese comic shop. I started to swivel around and scan my new surroundings. I noticed someone sort of glance up and motion at the camera. Then they ignored me. So as im checking out my new digs the cashier comes up, grabs the camera, and calmly walks me back to the storage area where I was unceremoniously placed on the shelf facing backwards. Fission mailed
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Discord search is garbage because you can't specify that you want the just the word you searched for. If you search for train it'll also give you results for trained or training and it drives me mad.
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Everything is a facebook group or discord server and I loving hate it so much. I was trying to find out how to do something on a fairly complicated piece of music gear and, you know, did a search online. There's a subreddit for this device, great! The mods shut it down, deleted all the posts and moved to discord. Why. Whhhhhyyyyyyyy. I dont want to join your secret clubhouse just to find out how to adjust input gain on individual parameters you dicks. because reddit decided to try and charge a billion dollars a year for API access after Elon got away with it, and the only way to moderate reddit is to use third-party applications that make API calls
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discord as a text/voice platform is great. discord as a source of information or reference is really bad. to be fair it wasnt designed for that purpose and it isnt really their fault people have been compelled to use it as such imo its a miracle discord is still privately owned. no way that lasts
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I had that happen with one of those cameras once and just filed it away in the "things that did not happen" folder in my head. I think we threw it away in our last move (maybe I hope.) Out there somewhere is like terabytes of a fat lesbian and a skinny lesbian watching TV nude/fighting on a couch. You gotta put a lens cap on that poo poo, wrap it up kids and none of that Alibaba In the Bedroom 
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Bought some cookies today and
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MrQwerty posted:because reddit decided to try and charge a billion dollars a year for API access after Elon got away with it, and the only way to moderate reddit is to use third-party applications that make API calls Yeah, "X community suddenly bailing on reddit didn't come out of nowhere. It was a direct response to reddit engaging with the thread title.
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The proper response to enshittification, of course, is to counter it by a different kind of enshittification from a different vector.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Unironically. I think stackoverflow and related subtopic stacks have a pretty good model at least for the "question and answer" and "I have a common problem" thing. They sometimes have difficulty staying up-to-date, areas of discussion are relatively narrow, and the moderation tends to cull things that are opinion-based, but overall I think it's a pretty effective and invaluable service for what it does.
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The ultimate problem with discord search is that that let’s say that I’m working on one of my old Volvo station wagons and I’m encountering a problem, well right now I plug my query into google and it checks every car forum, regular forum and tweet. Nothing about discord is indexed and every bit of information is unique to every server, I have no way to search every automotive discord or even a Volvo related discord externally. So much information about so many different hobbies is being walled off in a way that can’t be preserved and that’s what I’m really concerned about
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pics of the old volvos, op>?
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I am glad there still seems to be lots of specialist forums out there for interests like that, or in my case old Saabs. Also I tried to register once with discord and an AI told me I was banned for life with no chance of appeal. That's the sum total of my discord experience.
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My current around town driver is a 91 Volvo 760 Turbo sedan I bought from an old couple in El Monte California that had been parked and rotting a little in a garage with only 80k on it. I don’t think you really see many of the sedans anymore, just the wagons? Only needed some new struts and a head gasket. These cars are definitely an example of how things got shittier, they’re so easy to work on compared to everything modern (I love my more recent Camry but it is nothing like the 760) Surprise appearance from one of the planes I fly, a Viking Dragonfly homebuilt, in the back right
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I have noticed Google Play Store has started showing adds that contains an install button when you open an app page to install it, so if you are careless it's super easy to press the first install button you see, except you're installing some random software from an ad, not the actual thing you were trying to install. This is like malware level behaviour.
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I used to have like 3 more wagons parked at the house that I was definitely going to fix up but my gf made me sell them 
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They don't make classy cars like that anymore. Sure wouldn't mind a 240 wagon...
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His Divine Shadow posted:Also I tried to register once with discord and an AI told me I was banned for life with no chance of appeal. That's the sum total of my discord experience. I started using Discord last year but have server ban notices in my DM history going all the way back to 2017 because someone else signed up with my email address and I guess they don't/didn't verify addresses at all.
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:My current around town driver is a 91 Volvo 760 Turbo sedan I bought from an old couple in El Monte California that had been parked and rotting a little in a garage with only 80k on it. I don’t think you really see many of the sedans anymore, just the wagons? Only needed some new struts and a head gasket. These cars are definitely an example of how things got shittier, they’re so easy to work on compared to everything modern (I love my more recent Camry but it is nothing like the 760) hell yeah. i'd love a turbo 7xx. have also been eyeing saab 900s lately. thinking to replace my 4runner. its a monster in the winter but the mileage is so loving bad and its totally unnecessary in the summer now that i dont tow any race cars. tho i usually drive the rx7. would like an old volvo/saab for a family daily
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I want a 4Runner real bad but until there’s a hybrid I won’t touch it. I wouldn’t mind a Saab 900 convertible if I had the garage space so the Arizona sun doesn’t wreck the top, and that is unfortunately a common thing with any older convertible
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Coxswain Balls posted:Bought some cookies today and Lmao
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:Two things here. First, forums require financial upkeep for hosting and moderation, two things absolutely nobody wants to shell out for. SA exists because we've gamified the system so that twelve perma'd users' reregs and a smattering of otherwise banned reregs pay these costs. That's lightning in a bottle most cannot capture. Also running your own software means every script kiddie in the world will try to crack your server
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thathonkey posted:discord as a text/voice platform is great. discord as a source of information or reference is really bad. to be fair it wasnt designed for that purpose and it isnt really their fault people have been compelled to use it as such imo its a miracle discord is still privately owned. no way that lasts Yeah this. I only use discord as a chat room and sometimes voice chat. I am under no illusion that it is anything but those. I see Steam pages advertising the game's discord and I'm just like.... uh no, that sounds awful. I don't want to chat with people. I just want questions answered. I'll just search their forums or the steam community.
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Aside from Discord being awful for finding useful information, it also serves to make social forums actively worse. There's a forum I've been going to for going on 20 years and ever since Discord has become popular it has driven the vast majority of toxic drama on there. You get these splinter groups of cliquey posters who gossip with and about each other and then bring that pettiness back to the main board. The mods have actually done a good job this past year in reigning in a lot of that through bans on particularly offensive people who still posted like it was 2004, but there's still issues where their friends will relay information back to their Discord groups so those banned users still have an influence on the discourse. On top of that even the "good" posters get into their own groups so a lot of topics end up being filled with incomprehensible in-jokes that clog up the boards. It's part of the reason I've moved over to SA more and more even though that place still has a place in my heart.
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Gwely Mernans posted:Aside from Discord being awful for finding useful information, it also serves to make social forums actively worse. Wait, you weren't talking about SA?
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skooma512 posted:Wait, you weren't talking about SA? I think they are talking about Dark Lord Potter.
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