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Actually got the Deathwing box from a different local store who just put them up at 10am instead of doing a register of interest, getting it discounted takes some of the sting out of the codex possibly not being good.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 11:08 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 20:40 |
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I thought the lion was already considered pretty bad, even in casual games. That's weird if they've made him worse again.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 12:52 |
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They have to make sure he can't outshine Roboute.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 13:27 |
I'm just hoping I can get Asmodai as I need him for a conversion.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 13:29 |
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the only thing new to me from literally 20 years ago is the stupid queue and scalping thing. GW making things worse and making things always slightly worse than smurfs has kinda been par for the course, i think the rare exception was when Black templars first came out
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 13:33 |
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TehRedWheelbarrow posted:the only thing new to me from literally 20 years ago is the stupid queue and scalping thing. GW making things worse and making things always slightly worse than smurfs has kinda been par for the course, i think the rare exception was when Black templars first came out Ah yes, Ultramarines, the faction which is famously consistently overpowered and dominates the game
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 13:42 |
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huh. looking at the stats, i stand corrected.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 13:54 |
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We didn't have statistics 20 years ago it was just a bunch of guys yelling about what they thought was good over beers
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 15:27 |
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I don't think the deathwing box is all that great of a deal, I think the upgrade sprues are extremely overpriced/overvalued, but I found one for 187 bucks, so picked it up and might sell it down the line. Here is the link for those interested, in the us: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2563831178...ABk9SR4Kc3vSkYw
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 15:35 |
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xtothez posted:Since that was shown there has been a tidbit from our favourite 40k rumour guy: If that's true, I'm buying it. I like ork walkers even if they aren't that good.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 15:42 |
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Eej posted:We didn't have statistics 20 years ago it was just a bunch of guys yelling about what they thought was good over beers at the time my LGS got irked about the beers but you arent wrong
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 15:53 |
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I am not sure I have ever played at a game store that would allow you to drink beers on premise. Best case scenario they might turn a blind eye if you go out to your car to drink straight from a bottle of Limoncello you have in your trunk.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 15:55 |
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IncredibleIgloo posted:drink straight from a bottle of Limoncello you have in your trunk.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 16:03 |
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https://www.goonhammer.com/codex-dark-angels-10th-edition-the-goonhammer-review/ https://www.goonhammer.com/belial-and-deathwing-knights-goonhammer-model-review/ If someone is dying for a Dangle codex review, the Goonhammer one is up.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 17:37 |
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Well it took some doing, but I got all 3 kans with rokkits on em'. Samuel L. Hacksaw fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jan 20, 2024 |
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Nice Kans
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 18:30 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:Nice Kans
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 18:39 |
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Genuinely shocked how deeply GW screwed the dark angels i thought they were going to be the stars of this edition with the lion returning
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 19:25 |
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Al-Saqr posted:Genuinely shocked how deeply GW screwed the dark angels i thought they were going to be the stars of this edition with the lion returning *Laughs in Admech/Guard*
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 19:30 |
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The lion returning was for hyping up the launch of this edition but it ultimately happened last edition, they already sold a fuckload of the Lion models, they're gonna wanna sell you whole new primarchs! The balance stuff will probably get sorted out as well, from the Goonhammer writeup and what others are saying, they don't sound unsalvageably bad, just some of their stuff is underwhelming, some of it seems promising. The codexes have all immediately had points changes come out shortly after that are utterly different too. They're also getting a fair amount of new stuff and will also get new stuff whenever Space Marines in general get new/refreshed stuff. It's hard to say they're getting screwed when some factions get a unit for an entire edition and it's as hated as that stilt Ad Mech dude.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 19:47 |
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The guard thing is weird since they had a huge range refresh in 2022? But it was timed inexplicably because their brand new codex got wiped out by edition refresh.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 19:54 |
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thebardyspoon posted:The lion returning was for hyping up the launch of this edition but it ultimately happened last edition, they already sold a fuckload of the Lion models, they're gonna wanna sell you whole new primarchs! They are not horrible, just horribly average. People are used to Dark Angels getting tons of cool and potent stuff so now they can't process the thought of being teabagged by daddy GW for once.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 20:08 |
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Any long time Dark Angels fan is used to having a thoroughly mediocre army that is worse than standard codex marines in a lot of ways. This is just a return to tradition.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 20:13 |
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Kind of surprised that the Dark Angels didn't get a new Primaris Lieutenant.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 20:15 |
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Dangels were top of the meta for a long while in 9th if I'm not mistaken so I'm not surprised to see them tempered a little.IncredibleIgloo posted:Kind of surprised that the Dark Angels didn't get a new Primaris Lieutenant. With enough imagination, every Watcher in the Dark can be a new Lieutenant.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 20:32 |
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I was never a fan of the Roboute model, but holy hell does it look bad next to the Lion.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 21:22 |
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Is the Lion really that bad after the changes? He seems already super survivable with minor support and his 3++ that bounces mortals, so the lack of the -1 to be wounded doesn't feel harsh. And d2 on the sweep attack was a bit excessive. He still feels eminently dangerous and likely the victor of any straight primarch vs. primarch duel.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 22:06 |
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Geisladisk posted:Ah yes, Ultramarines, the faction which is famously consistently overpowered and dominates the game Yeah I can't remember a time as a SW player where I went drat those op ultras wish I was them.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 22:29 |
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Well fortunately in 10th any Space Marine legion can freely use the Ultramarines detachments, so the threat of OP Smurfs is pretty low.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 22:33 |
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Sephyr posted:Is the Lion really that bad after the changes? He seems already super survivable with minor support and his 3++ that bounces mortals, so the lack of the -1 to be wounded doesn't feel harsh. And d2 on the sweep attack was a bit excessive. I've barely played the game but it seems to me big single units like that need to bring something pretty big to the table to justify the points expenditure and apparently he already wasn't worth the points he cost before for what he was bringing, so absent a points drop, cutting some of his numbers isn't going to result in him being played more.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 22:35 |
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Is everyone ignoring that Vanguard Ultramarines is one of the best SM lists right now
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 23:09 |
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Safety Factor posted:Any long time Dark Angels fan is used to having a thoroughly mediocre army that is worse than standard codex marines in a lot of ways. This is just a return to tradition. Weren't the DA the poster children for every standard space marine army immediately switching to their rules whenever the codex was released?
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 00:30 |
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Eej posted:Is everyone ignoring that Vanguard Ultramarines is one of the best SM lists right now it's quite strong, but I don't know how OP it is considering it has a really high skill floor. It's not like you can just netlist copy+paste and play and win, you need a good understanding of the game to manage all the sneaky movement tricks.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 00:55 |
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Weren't the DA the poster children for every standard space marine army immediately switching to their rules whenever the codex was released? I remember that happening with Blood Angels more tbh, as long as I've been aware of 40k DA have either been horribly out of date, suffering from first codex syndrome, or down in the dumps with the rest of the Marines. They only seemed to get a shot in the arm with 9th.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 00:59 |
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Watching the Las Vegas Open stream and I realized there's no way that I could play an army like orcs that builds around that one golden turn. What are the armies in 40k that are fun to plan and theory craft with, but aren't wildly swingy or glass canon sort of stuff that want to clinch the game in one go?
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:02 |
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Lostconfused posted:Watching the Las Vegas Open stream and I realized there's no way that I could play an army like orcs that builds around that one golden turn. Space marines.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:08 |
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Ok, but consider this, I want to feel like a special little snowflake and not play space marines.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:10 |
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special snowflake space marine chapter
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Lostconfused posted:Ok, but consider this, I want to feel like a special little snowflake and not play space marines. I was dumb posting but you have a lot of flavours to be special. Orks aren't really one almighty turn and that's it. You have lots to do every turn and they're pretty tough plus have good numbers and a lot of armour. You can build Orks in a lot of ways and waaagh when the time is right. I'd say for armies that can grind you've got guard, votann, tyranids and necrons. Guard, necrons and tyranids are well rounded armies. E: I play tau and they're probably more on the Eldar end of the spectrum, but they're fun now and you can build pretty tough. You just have to be a fan of shooting.
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 20:40 |
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Couple of my game club pals are top ten in KT right now, one of our 40k players is in the top 40, not bad
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:24 |