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YOLOsubmarine posted:This literally never happens. And it's stupid that it doesn't.
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mcmagic posted:In meaningless games after the season was alreadly over like I said a billion times. mcmagic posted:What's the top 10 defense thing? Over the second half of the seasoon where they played the Jets and the Vikings and the Chargers? The idea that people are buying into that strikes me as silly. Also you seem to be ignoring the fact that the Raiders played a bunch of joke teams before McDaniels got fired. There are tangible facts that can be looked at to cite improvement of the team. The defense playing better overall, going from one of the most penalized teams under McDaniels to the least penalized team under Pierce. But you keep saying that none of that matters.
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SKULL.GIF posted:And it's stupid that it doesn't. Why would multiple teams all wait for a single dude when they haven't even interviewed him? They don't even know if they like him, and while they wait all the other a available candidates are getting snapped up.
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SKULL.GIF posted:And it's stupid that it doesn't. Teams don’t want to wait until potentially after the superbowl to get started on hiring a head coach. Guys interviewing for jobs don’t want to wait until after the superbowl to know if they’ve got a head coaching job. They don’t want to wait that long to start putting together a staff when many of their choices will have already decided to go elsewhere at that point. Yea, it sucks for the team they work for but unless the NFL prohibits it it’s going to keep happening because it’s always to the benefit of both the teams hiring and the people interviewing to start sooner.
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SKULL.GIF posted:And it's stupid that it doesn't. Teams need to install a new coach quickly so they can start prepping for free agency and the draft. It just isn't workable for them to sit and wait for a month in the hopes that a candidate might check every box they want during the interview phase and choose to sign on with them.
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at least Slowick could wait til after his game lol https://twitter.com/albertbreer/status/1748705191707185210?s=12&t=x5-NzdOmzxVdg9621hs9Tw
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Black Lighter posted:The Raiders are a team that's badly needed a culture shift for decades, and Pierce came in and shifted it almost overnight. There's no way in which he can be considered a bad hire. It’s a Raiders appointment you can look at and hope it genuinely goes well for both him and them, rather than waiting to dunk on everyone involved when it inevitably goes tits up like the last few.
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mcmagic posted:I just don't think that "getting a team pointed in the right direction" in games in december after you're out of the playoffs already really matters at all. That doesn't mean he won't be a good coach but I don't buy that as a reason why. I think Pierce is a good hire but people yelling at you for doubting the hire is silly. Consider these factors: Record of interim coaches since 2000 who kept job: Jason Garrett 80-64, 3 playoffs Mike Mularkey 18-14, 1 playoff Doug Marrone 22-42, 1 playoff Leslie Frazier 18-29-1, 1 playoff Tom Cable 13-19 Mike Singletary 13-18 Dick LeBeau 8-24 Dave McGinnis 16-32 Romeo Crennel 2-14 Mike Tice 32-32, 1 playoff to this list in addition to this, sure you can rally your troops to turn around a season, but can you plan your own season? Can you adjust to when teams scheme against you with preparation? It's also worth noting that guys who go from position coach to head coach (while skipping the coordinator step) often have trouble with that sort of thing. And even most of the coordinators have difficulty figuring out how to operate, plan, and coach a team during the offseason as effectively as possible. You can't win a Super Bowl during the offseason but you sure can royally gently caress up your chances during it. Kind of funny that the most notable exception to this position coach rule is... Andy Reid. I think Pierce is a good hire but there is definitely risk
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Its a good hire because of the feel good story and he has the locker room support. The raiders desperately need a culture refresh and why not give a shot to the guy who beat the chiefs without passing for 3 quarters? Plus he's making the right moves to grow into the role rather than coasting on whatever he did as a coordinator. Will he pan out though? Probably not given the interim history BUT I think for Pierce's case most of this will depend on if he has a good GM that can get some offensive talent.
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Pete Carroll is like THE culture guy. Teams (not just the Raiders) that need a reboot and aren't calling him up are very stupid.
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mcmagic posted:Pete Carroll is like THE culture guy. Teams (not just the Raiders) that need a reboot and aren't calling him up are very stupid. He’s not on the market! He took an executive job in Seattle! He wouldn’t have done that if he planned to coach for another team this year!
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shirts and skins posted:at least Slowick could wait til after his game lol It literally says he’s already met with the titans and the panthers
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You get a Shanahan Tree Coach! You get a Shanahan Tree Coach! AND You get a Shanahan Tree Coach!
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YOLOsubmarine posted:He’s not on the market! He took an executive job in Seattle! He wouldn’t have done that if he planned to coach for another team this year! Nothing about him taking that job means he can't take another HC job. It was just a soft landing for him when they fired him. Again, if you watched his press conference it was 1 billion percent clear that he wanted to coach the Seahawks this year and that he wants to coach again.
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I think if Pete was truly on the market then teams would be calling him up, this whole agent circle is too tight knit for them to all just go "oopsies we didnt consider it"
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mcmagic posted:Nothing about him taking that job means he can't take another HC job. It was just a soft landing for him when they fired him. Again, if you watched his press conference it was 1 billion percent clear that he wanted to coach the Seahawks this year and that he wants to coach again. Yes, he wanted to coach the SEAHAWKS this year. He can’t do that so he’s hanging around in an executive role. If he wanted to coach another team this year he’d be out interviewing for other jobs instead of accepting a role with the Seahawks. Do you really think teams haven’t called him? He’s not interviewing because he’s not on the market.
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CharlestheHammer posted:In that he has technically coached a football game and we know he did that? I guess? He has actually coached 9 games as a head coach (going 5-4) but sure, just act like he was a cheerleader for the final couple games or something. mcmagic posted:Nothing about him taking that job means he can't take another HC job. It was just a soft landing for him when they fired him. Again, if you watched his press conference it was 1 billion percent clear that he wanted to coach the Seahawks this year and that he wants to coach again. Even if he really does want to coach again, the fact is that he's not taking interviews so I'm not sure how you expect a team to hire a guy that literally doesn't want to interview for the job. Is Mark Davis supposed to kidnap him and force him to coach the Raiders at gunpoint or something? Alternatively, he can kidnap his family pet and send him a photo reminiscent of the National Lampoon cover with a gun to the dog's head and force him to coach that way. Black Sunshine fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jan 20, 2024 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Yes, he wanted to coach the SEAHAWKS this year. He can’t do that so he’s hanging around in an executive role. If he wanted to coach another team this year he’d be out interviewing for other jobs instead of accepting a role with the Seahawks. I think we're going to hear about other teams calling him and him taking those calls before this hiring cycle is over. It doesn't make sense for him to sit out a year at 72.
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the fuckin dream team hooking up in here lmao
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mcmagic posted:I think we're going to hear about other teams calling him and him taking those calls before this hiring cycle is over. It doesn't make sense for him to sit out a year at 72. I think it makes sense for Pete Carroll to do whatever the hell he wants to do. Perhaps you should give him a call and let him know that he's not handling his work life the way you think he should.
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Pete just wanted to be able to jerk off in the bathroom on the clock. Easier to do in an executive suite than coaching.
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Black Sunshine posted:I think it makes sense for Pete Carroll to do whatever the hell he wants to do. Perhaps you should give him a call and let him know that he's not handling his work life the way you think he should. Tell him Mark Davis has proof that 9/11 was an inside job and will only reveal it if Pete takes the Raiders to the playoffs
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Im glad that vibes based coaching is the new market inequality
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McMagic does have the right read on Pete’s presser and subsequent media interviews. It seems like Pete does want to coach again but is taking a bit of time to reflect. McMagic has the wrong read about Pete being willing to sit out a year from coaching, at his age. Because Pete has limitless energy and will die happily on the sidelines mid-game chewing gum, at age 105. Pete could chill this year then try and find something to coach next year. But also I wouldn’t be surprised if Pete does end up with a coaching gig later in this offseason. Probably not NFL, but somewhere.
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Pete gonna coach in the UFL
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Michigan Head Coach Pete Carroll.
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Pete's going to challenge Tomsula for the European League championship this year.
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mcmagic posted:Pete Carroll is like THE culture guy. Teams (not just the Raiders) that need a reboot and aren't calling him up are very stupid. What's stupid is continually hammering on this point despite the fact Carroll has a job and is very obviously not on the market.
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Q_res posted:What's stupid is continually hammering on this point despite the fact Carroll has a job and is very obviously not on the market. You are wrong.
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Who would be the funniest coach to see go coach in the ELF It would rule to see some redass coach from the SEC have to go coach the Feharver Enthroners
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Hide your kids, hide your wife, they're interviewing urrybody up in here.
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I guess there's no reason not to be as thorough as possible but it seems unusual that the Chargers are at 14 head coach interviews
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xbilkis posted:I guess there's no reason not to be as thorough as possible but it seems unusual that the Chargers are at 14 head coach interviews https://twitter.com/GACPodcast17/status/1748895218836103251 They forgot Vrabel on the list, but yeah
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a neat cape posted:They forgot Vrabel on the list, but yeah I don't wish you harm, but I do kinda wish the Chargers harm. So Brian Callahan showing up in this list pleases me.
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Grittybeard posted:I don't wish you harm, but I do kinda wish the Chargers harm. So Brian Callahan showing up in this list pleases me. The Chargers said from the beginning they were going to cast a wide net. I'd be annoyed if they didn't interview a lot of people. I still think it'll end up being Jim.
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