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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:Is there a consensus on whether it's better for battery longevity to charge back to your preferred max (e.g. 80%) every day or to run the battery down to 20% over the course of a few days then recharge? If you want to care as much as possible for your battery, you charge to 50% plus half your usual daily use every day. So if your entire daily use is 24%, you charge to 62% every day. The less you deviate from 50% SOC, the better it is for your battery. Unless you drive a leaf, or a whole lot of kilometers, you're unlikely to ever see meaningful battery degradation in the lifetime of the car, though. It's not really worth worrying about. Set the limit to whatever the manual recommends and plug in every day.
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Vegetable posted:If I lived in a butt cold place I’d just get a hybrid. From an emissions perspective the most efficient hybrids are pretty close to BEVs. Depending on your state’s energy mix they are sometimes even greener. You don’t get the sickass instant torque but you save some money. This is only true for a Honda Insight in West Virginia, when compared against a reasonably efficient EV of the same form factor, based on a thorough study by Argonne National lab (w/r/t carbon emissions only) that I'm too lazy to look up. ROFLBOT posted:Correct me if i’m wrong but almost all hybrids mean CVT, and as a traditional car guy that’s a bridge i refuse to cross 100% agree, specifically a manual or pure EV power train for me, I've had rentals from all the big domestic and Japanese brands recently, and whatever flavor of automatic they have, they're all hunty, annoying dogshit. Weirdly, I think the best one was the Spark rental, which was kinda fun with the AT ripping through gears trying to extract power from a truly gutless engine. Honda Civic was acceptable as well (and obv. a much nicer car).
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The highways around me are in poo poo shape, and I thought my Bolt had poo poo the battery because I was only getting 170ish miles per charge, albeit in somewhat chilly weather. Turns out I'm taking a 20% efficiency hit, and getting 2.7mi/kWh instead of 3.4, just from pumping all the water out of the tire grooves when it's really rainy.
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Elviscat posted:100% agree, specifically a manual or pure EV power train for me, I've had rentals from all the big domestic and Japanese brands recently, and whatever flavor of automatic they have, they're all hunty, annoying dogshit. Mazda is still shipping cars with traditional torque converter automatics FWIW and they’re “sport tuned” at that (lol in 2024 we praise companies for sticking with traditional slushbox autos, because the alternative is somehow so much worse) trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Jan 21, 2024 |
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pun pundit posted:If you want to care as much as possible for your battery, you charge to 50% plus half your usual daily use every day. So if your entire daily use is 24%, you charge to 62% every day. The less you deviate from 50% SOC, the better it is for your battery. This. But honestly I charge to 75% daily and I've seen like 2% degradation in a little over 3 years, the health of the battery is going to easily outlast the frame/body of this vehicle in my salted roads region of the country. Basically as long as you stay away from the extremes ( >80% / <20% ) during daily charges, battery health is a non-issue for a daily driver. You can absolutely use 100% to 0% on longer trips or whenever you need it, but if you need it every day then you should either get a bigger battery or an EV isn't for you.
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:Is there a consensus on whether it's better for battery longevity to charge back to your preferred max (e.g. 80%) every day or to run the battery down to 20% over the course of a few days then recharge? I just looked into this yesterday. It seems like your best bet is charging to 50% and then never using the car.
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You never have to worry about range anxiety if you never drive.
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There’s a dude on YouTube that reviews only Chinese cars. It’s a really striking reminder of how many good cars the US is getting denied by dumb trade war bullshit. I’d drive this any day. https://youtu.be/kFGXAycNKaU
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https://youtu.be/T-LegOd8Jxo?si=BppzqH7EFHCLXumo TWIKE!
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Got this last month but only just learned this thread exists, so here are some recently-new Lyriq AWD Sport 3 pics.     And a walkaround.
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Vegetable posted:There’s a dude on YouTube that reviews only Chinese cars. It’s a really striking reminder of how many good cars the US is getting denied by dumb trade war bullshit. I’d drive this any day. Jesus Christ look at this behemoth of beauty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRiHvA20WtY
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biznatchio posted:Got this last month but only just learned this thread exists, so here are some recently-new Lyriq AWD Sport 3 pics. How do you like it?
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Got a lead on a buyback 22 bolt with 11k miles for 22k-4k for the rebate. Single owner and clean title, but was a Michigan car... avoid or go for it? Normally I'd avoid rust belt cars but it was only driven there for a year and a few months
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biznatchio posted:Got this last month but only just learned this thread exists, so here are some recently-new Lyriq AWD Sport 3 pics. That’s a fantastic color. They really like their twirly knobs in that car. What’s the knob below the storage console for? And is that blue colored lighted recess hold anything interesting?
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Vegetable posted:There’s a dude on YouTube that reviews only Chinese cars. It’s a really striking reminder of how many good cars the US is getting denied by dumb trade war bullshit. I’d drive this any day. Or how about the HiPhi X, an EV SUV with gullwing roof. The most expensive chinese EV available and apparently a really strong seller too. The Human Horizons Hiphi X Is Like A Sci-fi Movie Prop You Can Actually Drive - Wheelsboy
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biznatchio posted:Got this last month but only just learned this thread exists, so here are some recently-new Lyriq AWD Sport 3 pics. I’m waiting on my lux 3, green on green like yours. Very much looking forward to it, but wow it seems like there are a lot of software issues owners have reported online. Have you had any issues? Some suggest that the latest update the new cars are coming with sorts it all out.
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biznatchio posted:Got this last month but only just learned this thread exists, so here are some recently-new Lyriq AWD Sport 3 pics. I’m really curious as to how you like this.
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Twerk from Home posted:The Kia/Hyundai hybrids have a DCT and it's not exactly a big win, even though its not quite as bad as Fords DCT... I hope. I own one. I was looking into Hyundai and Kia as possible options if my Prius' battery shits the bed before the redesigned Model Y comes out, but that was a significant turn-off - I like the smooth operation of my Prius' eCVT, as well as having fewer moving parts to worry about. Vegetable posted:There’s a dude on YouTube that reviews only Chinese cars. It’s a really striking reminder of how many good cars the US is getting denied by dumb trade war bullshit. I’d drive this any day. Cute, but leaving DC fast charging support out of the model with the smaller battery seems like it'd be utterly unacceptable to US customers. For that matter, I've wondered how many Americans would even feel comfortable buying a car from a Chinese company, what with China's reputation for churning out cheap crap. Though I understand BYD is planning to build a factory in Mexico to build cars for sale in the US, so it looks like we'll find out soon enough. They've also received a permit to test level 3 autonomous driving in China - it'd be fun to see how it stacks up against Tesla and Mercedes.
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:Got a lead on a buyback 22 bolt with 11k miles for 22k-4k for the rebate. Single owner and clean title, but was a Michigan car... avoid or go for it? Normally I'd avoid rust belt cars but it was only driven there for a year and a few months punch it, that’s a great deal and I can’t imagine a year of driving is gonna have rusted out the bottom badly enough to make it not worthwhile if it’s otherwise exactly the car you want I say this as somebody who owns and drives and has, by necessity, purchased multiple times in New England, so maybe my standards are hosed
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One winter in Michigan shouldn't mess up a modern car with decent rust proofing that bad, I wouldn't worry much about it.
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The problem with Chinese brand cars is the software and interfaces - they've got the nuts and bolts side of EVs pretty well sorted, but the software is almost universally terrible and not made for non-Asian markets. From what I've seen and read there is nothing anywhere near as polished as Tesla's UI for example
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slidebite posted:I love dark green. I think that's identical, as in package and everything, to my wife's uncle that just received his factory order. It's been great so far. The Emerald Lake Metallic paint is a really interesting color, it gets a really nice brilliant green in sunlight, but under overcast skies or less light you'd swear it's just black. My dealer told me that GM said my car is the first one off the assembly line in this color; if the other metallic paints look half as good then any of them would be a great option, it really looks fantastic. My experience pretty much lines up with all the online reviews of the car; except that I think some of the reviews dogged on the suspension more than it deserves -- it's a little bouncy but some reviewers just went over the top complaining about it. Wayne Knight posted:I’m waiting on my lux 3, green on green like yours. Very much looking forward to it, but wow it seems like there are a lot of software issues owners have reported online. Have you had any issues? Some suggest that the latest update the new cars are coming with sorts it all out. The only issue I've had is with CarPlay audio cutting out randomly; but yeah, a lot of people have been having a lot of software issues. I think a large part of the problem is that dealers aren't updating all the modules in the car before delivery, because there are some nasty issues that were fixed back in November that there's still some straggling reports of; and GM now has a standing service policy that dealers should be updating every module in the car if it's ever brought in for service. It's definitely something to double-check with your dealer if you're getting a car that's been sitting on the lot at the plant for a couple months, or if you're buying a down-level trim that was produced before November because probably the worst case scenario is that your car still has the issue that causes the 12V battery to drain, which effectively immobilizes the vehicle until it gets towed to a dealer to reset everything. Ubiquitus posted:What’s the knob below the storage console for? And is that blue colored lighted recess hold anything interesting? On the center console? The big knob is a rotary wheel to do hands-free scrolling through the infotainment system (it also clicks down to 'select') just as an alternative to reaching up and using the touchscreen -- I think that's a common feature in all recent Cadillacs. Above the knob are some buttons (to jump to the music screen, the nav screen, etc.); and then above that is a volume wheel that also clicks-to-mute. All the knobs on the dashboard control vents. There's a slide-out jewel box underneath the climate controls in the center, and then under that is the blue recess, which is just an empty space to stash stuff (and has a USB-C port).
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Elviscat posted:One winter in Michigan shouldn't mess up a modern car with decent rust proofing that bad, I wouldn't worry much about it. A future truck, on the other hand,
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Elviscat posted:Turns out I'm taking a 20% efficiency hit, and getting 2.7mi/kWh instead of 3.4, just from pumping all the water out of the tire grooves when it's really rainy. How much would it improve if you drive off the grooves. I assume it would be also safer having less water in the tires. I avoid the grooves just because they increase tire noise so significantly.
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cruft posted:I just looked into this yesterday. It seems like your best bet is charging to 50% and then never using the car. according to a guy that reviews evs, my e-golf charged to 100 everynight on ac for years has barely done any battery degradation, and that is on the smaller battery pre-2017 version, as the car 100% os actually less than 100%. so i wouldn't worry about it unless you are only fully 100% charging on dc
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ROFLBOT posted:The problem with Chinese brand cars is the software and interfaces - they've got the nuts and bolts side of EVs pretty well sorted, but the software is almost universally terrible and not made for non-Asian markets. From what I've seen and read there is nothing anywhere near as polished as Tesla's UI for example I like the videos I see where they excitedly advertise a full Windows PC as the infotainment system
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Wayne Knight posted:I thought all non-Tesla EVs had a buffer at the top so people didn’t have to janitor their batteries? They do, some people want to be janitors anyway though
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Saukkis posted:How much would it improve if you drive off the grooves. I assume it would be also safer having less water in the tires. I avoid the grooves just because they increase tire noise so significantly. I mean, I am 100% avoiding the grooves as much as possible without going over the lane markings, but sometimes there's just water everywhere. 167 south is particularly bad.
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A few seconds with Google reveals that the Cybertruck uses 301 stainless steel (as does Starship, for what it's worth). Which isn't the worst choice in terms of corrosion resistance, but not great for something that could get covered in salt.Wayne Knight posted:I thought all non-Tesla EVs had a buffer at the top so people didn’t have to janitor their batteries? Buffer at the top? Do you mean capping the charge below 100%? I've only ever heard of that being done on the Volt.
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Elviscat posted:I mean, I am 100% avoiding the grooves as much as possible without going over the lane markings, but sometimes there's just water everywhere. 167 aka the drag strip, with the pavement bouncy that feels like a trampoline, when I go to auburn and don't mind the extra 10 minutes I take 181 from Tukwila to kent to avoid most of it, or i-5 if its unclogged and 18. Cockmaster posted:A few seconds with Google reveals that the Cybertruck uses 301 stainless steel (as does Starship, for what it's worth). Which isn't the worst choice in terms of corrosion resistance, but not great for something that could get covered in salt. most do, I know mine doesn't let you really fully charge it if you check its battery in obd and doesn't let you fully use the battery too as it is meant as a buffer.
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ROFLBOT posted:The problem with Chinese brand cars is the software and interfaces - they've got the nuts and bolts side of EVs pretty well sorted, but the software is almost universally terrible and not made for non-Asian markets. From what I've seen and read there is nothing anywhere near as polished as Tesla's UI for example This is true of my MG4. The software is the only thing I don't like about it. And it would be much less of an issue, if they turned on the OTA updates (which are provided for). There are regular updates, but you can only get them via a dealer in Aus, and the service frequency is every two years. On the other hand, it includes CarPlay and AA, so it doesn't matter too much for the non-car stuff.
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Cockmaster posted:Buffer at the top? Do you mean capping the charge below 100%? I've only ever heard of that being done on the Volt. No, it's pretty much a standard feature with EVs to improve the endurance of the battery. Some manufacturers even publish separate gross and net/usable capacity numbers for the battery.
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Tesla's buffer is at the bottom, but it isn't large or consistent. All of them in reasonable health will drive through 0%, but they will be unable to attain highway speeds and may force shutdown at any time.
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Cool, gonna keep not caring what I charge up to knowing the owner-facing 100% is really like an 87% or something.
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ROFLBOT posted:The problem with Chinese brand cars is the software and interfaces - they've got the nuts and bolts side of EVs pretty well sorted, but the software is almost universally terrible and not made for non-Asian markets. From what I've seen and read there is nothing anywhere near as polished as Tesla's UI for example The software on the Atto 3 seems fine to me, the only really weak point is the built in nav (but who uses that anyway?)
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GM recommends in their manuals for Ultium vehicles to only charge to 80% routinely unless you're going to be doing a longer trip to "help promote battery health". The difference between total and usable capacity is only like 4% too; which isn't enough headroom for a "100%" charge to be a long-term healthy charge amount. So long story short, read your vehicle's manual and do whatever it says to do.
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biznatchio posted:It's been great so far. The Emerald Lake Metallic paint is a really interesting color, it gets a really nice brilliant green in sunlight, but under overcast skies or less light you'd swear it's just black. My dealer told me that GM said my car is the first one off the assembly line in this color; if the other metallic paints look half as good then any of them would be a great option, it really looks fantastic. Do you control the knob with your mind because all the knobs I’ve manipulated have definitely required a hand
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