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Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/umichvoter/status/1749199308610556129?t=nUAJ5vpRYF9N4y-7vXKwPA&s=19

A total mystery of how to appeal to a voter that tells you exactly what they want

Better to just tell them Trump is worse

i watched expecting at least some degree of a young person struggling with articulating their opinion but she said it very succintly whats umichvoter's loving problem

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Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

I know it's standard to have docs at the ready but watching biden doddering around this family's home then leaving where the ambulances are lined up made me laugh.

https://twitter.com/dom_lucre/status/1748824185881718824

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

no way the president just chilling in my crib

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
i choose to believe that he simply wandered in off the street and they decided to spin it

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/Spirate_flow/status/1748839569523446204

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Bootleg Trunks posted:

i watched expecting at least some degree of a young person struggling with articulating their opinion but she said it very succintly whats umichvoter's loving problem

the interviewee sounds unreasonable if you assume that

A. Biden already is sending aid to Gaza,
B. Biden is already exerting maximum pressure on Israel to stop bombing Gaza,
C. any country deserves to be able to strike back at a group that did to Israel what Hamas did on 10/7,
D. the hypocrisy would be worse under Trump

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

i choose to believe that he simply wandered in off the street and they decided to spin it

god bless that family taking in and feeding the poor lost dementia patient.

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013



Like gently caress okay so I guess I'll register to vote in China's elections then but until then I'm going to focus on what's happening in the U.S.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

i choose to believe that he simply wandered in off the street and they decided to spin it

"Oh Corn Pop, thank goodness it's finally you! The last five houses were very rude."

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/collinsilvs/status/1749225627398324594

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

the_steve posted:

"Oh Corn Pop, thank goodness it's finally you! The last five houses were very rude."

I've posted this before but I don't care:

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009


Go push some rocks off the moon about it.

MadSparkle
Aug 7, 2012

Can Bernie count on you to add to our chest's mad sparkle? Can you spare a little change for an old buccaneer?

Majorian posted:

I've posted this before but I don't care:



glad you didn't care, it's good

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Didn’t the UN find no evidence of genocide of the Uyghurs? Wasn’t America funding the extremists causing trouble?

In any case, the synthesis between communism and islam will save us.

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

MonsieurChoc posted:

Didn’t the UN find no evidence of genocide of the Uyghurs? Wasn’t America funding the extremists causing trouble?

In any case, the synthesis between communism and islam will save us.

some info:

https://redsails.org/the-xinjiang-atrocity-propaganda-blitz/

and

https://twitter.com/Shikima_King_/status/1454838738220044299

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

MonsieurChoc posted:

Didn’t the UN find no evidence of genocide of the Uyghurs? Wasn’t America funding the extremists causing trouble?

In any case, the synthesis between communism and islam will save us.

the loving US State Department didn't think so

quote:

[T]hen-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Jan. 19, one day before U.S. President Donald Trump’s presidency ended, that China was carrying out a genocide against Chinese Muslims, primarily the ethnic Uighur population, in the western region of Xinjiang. The Biden administration has reaffirmed Pompeo’s stance and backed off a recent claim Biden’s United Nations envoy pick, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, made in her confirmation hearing that the State Department, under the Biden administration, was conducting a review of the designation.

A State Department review during the final weeks of the Trump administration of China’s conduct in Xinjiang pitted the department’s lawyers against advocates of a genocide determination. Those advocates included Kelley Currie, who then served as U.S. ambassador at large for global women’s issues and is a long-standing critic of China’s human rights record, and former Sen. Sam Brownback, who served as the department’s ambassador at large for international religious freedom. It resulted in a “split” memo from the department that was sent to Pompeo, according to two officials.

Beyond the legal debate over the characterization of China’s repression of its Muslim population, the genocide designation carries enormous political weight, applying pressure on the United States and other countries to punish a global powerhouse whose trade, environmental, and security activities are entwined with their own.

But wielding the g-word without a solid legal basis also carries the risk of politicizing and eroding the power of the designation, which has been invoked in the past century to describe the worst episodes of mass killing, from the murder of millions of Jews during the Holocaust to the slaughter of around 800,000 Rwandans during the country’s genocide.

The cautious conclusions of State Department lawyers do not constitute a judgment that genocide did not occur in Xinjiang but reflects the difficulties of proving genocide, which involves the destruction “in whole or in part” of a group of people based on their national, religious, racial, or ethnic identity, in a court of law. It also points to a disconnect between public perception of the crime of genocide and the legal definition in the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, which has long been interpreted by State Department lawyers to require intent to bring about the physical and biological destruction of a group.

“Genocide is difficult to prove in court,” said Richard Dicker, an expert on international justice at Human Rights Watch. Even the most horrific of crimes—burning of villages, systematic rape, or the execution of large numbers of civilians—can not be considered genocide unless the perpetrators carry out their crimes “with a very specific intent—the intent, of course, being to destroy in whole or in part a population based on their religious, ethnic, or national background,” he said.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/umichvoter/status/1749199308610556129?t=nUAJ5vpRYF9N4y-7vXKwPA&s=19

A total mystery of how to appeal to a voter that tells you exactly what they want

Better to just tell them Trump is worse

This as succinct as you can loving say it.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib

Bootleg Trunks posted:

i watched expecting at least some degree of a young person struggling with articulating their opinion but she said it very succintly whats umichvoter's loving problem

the problem is that the democrats fundamentally do not believe in passing policy or performing services that voters want. the only valid way to get votes is to Convince People Through Argument And Scolding

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

DoubleDonut posted:

Convince People Through Argument And Scolding

They can't even do that first part, lmao

Davethulhu
Aug 12, 2003

Morbid Hound

Meatball Ron was a better nickname

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

VoicesCanBe posted:

Liberals actually cannot conceive of people who are politically to their left. It doesn't even register to them.

it’s called horseshoe theory, and it can happen to you, too

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

So what exactly does she think the US has been up to in the last 20 years?"

Lin-Manuel Turtle
Jul 12, 2023

[LAFAYETTE]
I dream of life without a monarchy
The unrest in France will lead to ‘onarchy?
‘Onarchy? How you say, how you say, ‘anarchy?’
When I fight, I make the other side panicky
With my—

[HAMILTON/LAURENS/LAFAYETTE/MULLIGAN]
Shot!

Pf. Hikikomoriarty
Feb 15, 2003

RO YNSHO


Slippery Tilde

Some Guy TT posted:

how did people in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century view the presidencies of grover cleveland if were looking for president precedent here thats probably the only useful one

my dim recollection is they made fun of his many bastard children

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.

Punished Turtle posted:

[LAFAYETTE]
I dream of life without a monarchy
The unrest in France will lead to ‘onarchy?
‘Onarchy? How you say, how you say, ‘anarchy?’
When I fight, I make the other side panicky
With my—

[HAMILTON/LAURENS/LAFAYETTE/MULLIGAN]
Shot!

Awful, whoever wrote this should be ashamed

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Sancho Banana posted:

Awful, whoever wrote this should be...

[HAMILTON/LAURENS/LAFAYETTE/MULLIGAN]
Shot!

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

He'll always be Meatball Ron to me

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Wartime libs are bonkers this time around I love it

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Every time Joe does a poopy in his diaper, Rachel Maddow cues this up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfN_3ov44eQ

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


Turk ftw

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Nichael posted:

Every time Joe does a poopy in his diaper, Rachel Maddow cues this up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfN_3ov44eQ

that should be the song played during executions.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

RadiRoot posted:

that should be the song played during executions.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


RadiRoot posted:

that should be the song played during executions.

It should be the end credits song of America, used like the Curb theme.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1749451096282583201
*goes back 2 years ago to helldump this post*
In Case You’re Wondering, Nancy Pelosi Is Still Supporting the Only Antiabortion House Democrat

www.vanityfair.com - Thu, 12 May 2022 posted:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was asked why she is still supporting Representative Henry Cuellar, the conservative Texas Democrat whose house and campaign office were recently raided by the FBI, for reelection, and she said she is. Then, in a mind-boggling moment during Thursday’s press conference, Pelosi took the time to also remind everyone that in addition to the whole FBI thing that’s cast a shadow over Cuellar’s ethical standards, he’s also the lone antiabortion Democrat left in the House—a position one would think would leave a disqualifying black mark on a Democrat’s political résumé given the Supreme Court looks poised to overturn Roe v. Wade in the coming weeks.

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

The important part of that first article is here:

quote:

The real Xinjiang story is not so difficult to understand:

The rise of Xi Jinping and the Belt & Road Initiative posed a serious challenge to American supremacy much earlier than they were expecting, so [43]
the U.S. amped up their funding of terrorism in the region, as per the “Afghan Trap” doctrine outlined by Brzezinski, but [44]
instead of sending in the PLA, repeating the error of the Soviets, China reacted by building schools and vocational programs instead. [45]
As a result, the U.S. and its allies desperately pivoted to accusing them of “genocide,” despite lack of evidence. [46]
I’ve yet to see this basic understanding seriously challenged.

That's the basic summary.

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"
Also can't forget a few years ago, when a Uyghur "advocate" did an AMA on reddit about China's supposed ongoing genocide. It didn't take long to discover that she had been a translator at Gitmo during the Bush admin. Hmmm.....

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


VoicesCanBe posted:

Also can't forget a few years ago, when a Uyghur "advocate" did an AMA on reddit about China's supposed ongoing genocide. It didn't take long to discover that she had been a translator at Gitmo during the Bush admin. Hmmm.....

Can you link this? That's extremely funny.

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VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Nichael posted:

Can you link this? That's extremely funny.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/e9ad4n/i_am_rushan_abbas_uyghur_activist_and_survivor_of/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

That's the actual AMA, if you don't want to go on reddit (understandable) this link summarizes what happened:

https://medium.com/@bobbyarlan/a-reddit-ama-claiming-to-be-a-uiyghur-quickly-exposes-a-cia-asset-slandering-china-1d667c098b77

Most of the top comments on the reddit AMA are calling her out, it was kind of a disaster for her.

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