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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:The grand strategy is removing elections in the US. Putin taking Ukraine over gives Republicans a 'hey look authoritarianism I know that was the joke but gently caress.
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Jan 22, 2024 00:15
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I've been reading about a strike on a Donetsk civilian market. Ukraine has HIMARS and doesn't attack civilians. I just assume it was Russia's incompetence and/or has a history of intentionally targeting civilians even if victims are their own.
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Jan 22, 2024 00:31
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War Wizard posted:It's been getting stretched. I feel like it's a "Fool me once.." razor, where we can attribute stupidity the first time, then malice each additional time. And then get confused and then quote a The Who lyric
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Jan 22, 2024 00:47
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Strategic Tea posted:Russia can also win by getting gopnik culture to 80% in all neighboring states, or by launching a mars mission (can piggyback w/ elon) americhuds are too fat to squat
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Jan 22, 2024 03:09
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A Russian millionaire in his private jet crashed over Afghanistan and we'll never know wtf for sure.
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Jan 22, 2024 09:06
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I missed it. Could they crash another Russian millionaire so I can just make sure it happened?
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Jan 22, 2024 09:51
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With cohort sizes this small conclusions can only ever be anecdotal.
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Jan 22, 2024 10:12
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DiomedesGodshill posted:I've been reading about a strike on a Donetsk civilian market. Ukraine has HIMARS and doesn't attack civilians. I just assume it was Russia's incompetence and/or has a history of intentionally targeting civilians even if victims are their own. Ukraine through official policy might not, but disgruntled commanders certainly could. I dunno what Himars has to do with this, but apparently the market was hit with 155/152mm artillery shells, which is obviously used way more often than any of the missile systems, and available to pretty much everyone on the front, with little oversight Sure, Russia MIGHT have bombed their own market, but I think it's far more likely to be perpetrated by elements from the AFU
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Jan 22, 2024 10:21
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Keep in mind it's a Ukrainian market. It's possible of course, either as some sort of fuckup or some rear end in a top hat getting mad and wanting to teach "them" a lesson or whatever. Hopefully it's seriously investigated because we don't need this kind of poo poo happening.
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Jan 22, 2024 11:04
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EorayMel posted:Why invade Taiwan when you can just invade every square kilometer east of Moscow? No electronics industry and know-how in yakutsk, just cold and no plumbing because permafrost.
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Jan 22, 2024 11:43
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Not much lebensraum in Taiwan though
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Jan 22, 2024 12:04
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Bohemian Nights posted:Ukraine through official policy might not, but disgruntled commanders certainly could. I dunno what Himars has to do with this, but apparently the market was hit with 155/152mm artillery shells, which is obviously used way more often than any of the missile systems, and available to pretty much everyone on the front, with little oversight Just spitballing here, but I'd expect a mistake by the AFU to be more likely than an intentional targeting of civilians by either side in these circumstances.
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Jan 22, 2024 13:22
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EasilyConfused posted:Just spitballing here, but I'd expect a mistake by the AFU to be more likely than an intentional targeting of civilians by either side in these circumstances. What if--and hear me out on this--Russia mistakenly targeted the wrong civilian infrastructure? It combines all known elements: Russia targeting civilians, Russia being incompetent, and blame being placed on the AFU pre-investigation.
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Jan 22, 2024 13:45
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The Tekstylnykiv market is right next to the Vulitsa Petrovskogo overpass over the rail line to Volnovakha, so it is possible Ukrainian artillery attempted to destroy the overpass to disrupt both rail and road logistics, but overshot the target. However, the following are equally possible:
Without further data, we can't know. It's pretty certain Ukrainian forces didn't deliberately shell civilians, because what would that accomplish, except wasting limited ammo on making the people you're supposed to liberate really mad at you?
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Jan 22, 2024 15:03
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https://i.imgur.com/aHT7H3q.mp4 Game over, vatniks!
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Jan 22, 2024 15:04
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mobby_6kl posted:https://i.imgur.com/aHT7H3q.mp4 you need to xpost that to the osha thread
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Jan 22, 2024 15:08
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1749400393061163073#m MUH NOOOOOOKS
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Jan 22, 2024 15:16
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Well, they're not wrong, are they? The only thing keeping Russia as a major power at this point is nukes, and nothing else.
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Jan 22, 2024 15:26
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Also a shitload of tanks and artillery and mobiks that the collective NATO+EU can't match apparently
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Jan 22, 2024 15:33
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Why would their confidence be shaken in their super effective, well equipped and motivated conventional armed forces who have definitely never hosed up once?
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Jan 22, 2024 15:36
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1749464843432673575#mquote:Polish Prime Minister Tusk spoke sharply about the demonstration of a policy of neutrality by some leaders of European Union member states against the backdrop of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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Jan 22, 2024 17:18
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That's not a comment I expected from him
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Jan 22, 2024 17:22
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Huh, I thought Poland was Hungary-assisting in EU shenanigans, though their sensitivity to Russian aggression isn’t surprising.
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Jan 22, 2024 17:40
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Subjunctive posted:Huh, I thought Poland was Hungary-assisting in EU shenanigans, though their sensitivity to Russian aggression isn’t surprising. Poland had elections and the fascists are out.
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Jan 22, 2024 17:42
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spankmeister posted:Poland had elections and the fascists are out. I didn’t even know that was a thing that could happen these days! Great news, I should probably be keeping up better on world events.
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Jan 22, 2024 17:43
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Subjunctive posted:I didn’t even know that was a thing that could happen these days! Great news, I should probably be keeping up better on world events. Unfortunately Slovakia had elections and the fascists are back in. So Hungary can continue their little games inside EU and openly side with Putin, because they found a new bottom buddy.
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Jan 22, 2024 17:47
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Wait when did that happen, I thought they were poised to go even more right or something
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Jan 22, 2024 17:47
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Toxic Mental posted:Wait when did that happen, I thought they were poised to go even more right or something Poland? Last year. It was kind of a big deal in Europe, for obvious reasons. A glimmer of hope in dark times. It took a while for Tusk to come into power though because PiS was still the biggest party and therefore had first chance in forming a coalition. Of course that didn't work but they stalled as long as possible. Donald Tusk's coalition is an odd bunch which was basically all parties who were against PiS' systematic destruction of Poland's institutions. Slovakia was also last year btw. spankmeister fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jan 22, 2024 |
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Jan 22, 2024 17:51
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did you refer to the polepoll or the pollpole this is important
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Jan 22, 2024 17:53
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TEMPLE GRANDIN OS posted:did you refer to the polepoll or the pollpole this is important First past the Pole.
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Jan 22, 2024 17:58
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good news (not for Russia) regarding that damaged oil and gas terminal
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Jan 22, 2024 18:14
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How did Ukraine get those drones to the target? Sneak into the Baltic and launch from there?
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Jan 22, 2024 18:15
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Subjunctive posted:How did Ukraine get those drones to the target? Sneak into the Baltic and launch from there? The propeller ones with long wingspan supposedly have enough range, IIRC? Flying through Russia would be a bet against the quality of their AA and radar coverage, of course. I'd like to launch a conspiracy theory that they had help from Finland or Estonia, but I don't think they would take that gamble.
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Jan 22, 2024 18:19
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Subjunctive posted:How did Ukraine get those drones to the target? Sneak into the Baltic and launch from there? Prop driven drones like the Shahed have a massive range, easily the 1000 kilometers needed to reach St. Petersburg. Downside is that it's slow with big wings so easy to shoot down. Flying across Belarus most of the way can also be a way to avoid being shot down, Russia has stuff based there but the Belarus Army is not very well equipped.
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Jan 22, 2024 18:20
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Computer viking posted:I'd like to launch a conspiracy theory that they had help from Finland or Estonia, but I don't think they would take that gamble. Yeah that would be awesome. Payback for the GPS fuckery.
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Jan 22, 2024 18:20
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Subjunctive posted:How did Ukraine get those drones to the target? Sneak into the Baltic and launch from there? They've sent them against Moscow and other distant targets in the past, There's a special forces group that seems to have free access to pretty much wherever they want.
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Jan 22, 2024 18:20
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Subjunctive posted:How did Ukraine get those drones to the target? Sneak into the Baltic and launch from there? 
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Jan 22, 2024 18:21
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Apparently Puts is now claiming lebensraum on Alaska. Lmao.
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Jan 22, 2024 19:14
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Burns posted:Apparently Puts is now claiming lebensraum on Alaska. He's hit the grandeur delulus again.
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Next thing they want Fort Ross back.
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