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checkplease
Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose

Thanks oops. Yeah both villains have V name and a long coat!

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checkplease
Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose

Midjack posted:

The music was good but the lyrics in the movie songs were really off.

Yeah it’s the same artists as the series music, but agreed the weird English stood out more with the movie songs. Maybe they were just more front and center this time or different style, I dunno.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Alien from L.A was so gosh-darn sweet. I had no idea Albert Pyun had made a movie with so much heart. It's just perfect 80s bubblegum innocent fun mixed with big bombastic sci-fi worldbuilding. What an excellent little movie.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Fremont Man, you ever just wish a movie was better. There is a very cool idea looking at the isolation and exclusion felt by a surivor guilt ridden Afghan transplant, but the film pulls away from any of the harsher or more incisive looks at politics, society, or Dunya's character using humor and my god is the humor in this film poor. I've never felt as physically unamused as the second crack they made at the therapist sobbing over loving Jack London. Add to that the movie vacillates between being shot like a TV commercial and going big on a shot that they obviously didn't have the technique or skill to pull off. Shooting in B&W was also a bad move, Welles knew that it was the most complimentary way to shoot actors, what he didn't know is that after decades of everyone shooting in color people trying to go back and with digital would make incredibly flat and dull looking movies that constantly gently caress up the lighting.

I wish I could rate it higher, but even the 2.5 I gave it seems high.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.
Fast and the Furious 1-8 marathon with the wife. These are loving awful. Each one is the worst one.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
tokyo drift was as far as i made it

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



Oldstench posted:

Fast and the Furious 1-8 marathon with the wife. These are loving awful. Each one is the worst one.

bloomberg did a really interesting stats article about all the fast and furious movies back in 2017.

it's paywalled now but i remember getting to read the whole thing at one point probably when it first came out.

here's the link for anyone curious

some preview images i could find on other pages that were linking to the article give you an idea of what kind of data is presented







edit: posted the above all from my phone but if you use ublock origin's element zapper on desktop you can nuke the paywall element

ShoogaSlim fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jan 22, 2024

checkplease
Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
The fast films are fun action with big cars and solid stunt work. And maybe the only minority led blockbuster franchise.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

checkplease posted:

The fast films are fun action with big cars and solid stunt work. And maybe the only minority led blockbuster franchise.

They're still really bad

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

checkplease posted:

The fast films are fun action with big cars and solid stunt work. And maybe the only minority led blockbuster franchise.

Creed?

olorum
Apr 24, 2021

Data Graham posted:

But it's actually a true story? :aaaaa: I only realized this after the fact and now I feel newly gobsmacked at how little I know no matter how obsessively I try to study history. God drat

Yeah same, I only started suspecting it was a real story when the Bureau of Investigation showed up. Don't think it changed my enjoyment of the movie but it made me feel dumb. That's what I get for generally avoiding reading anything about a movie before watching it. Similar thing happened with May December, though at least in that case it's only inspired by a real story

checkplease
Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose

Yeah true on Creed, but it’s smaller by comparison. Fast films are more on the marvel and mission impossible scale.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



I just watched Fast X and yes, I liked them more when they lived life a quarter mile at a time.

checkplease
Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
I think the fast series peaks with 5-7 where they are full on heist/action films. But fast X is just bad yeah.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

[b]Leave the World Behind/b]

I liked it. I can see why a lot of people are annoyed by the ending, but I thought it was fine.

The thing with the son was weird, though I cannot think of a logical reason why his teeth are falling out when no one else’s are. I know he got bit by a tick, but that doesn’t really explain it

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Lyme disease can migrate into the roots of the teeth

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


databasic posted:

Anyways, if you like horror movies (especially heart-tugging ones in the Guillermo del Toro tradition), please rent, purchase, or otherwise financially support the creators of 'The Orphanage'.

You can watch the director's underseen science fiction picture "Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom", or his television adaptation of an obscure mid century fantasy novel, "Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power"

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Gaius Marius posted:

Lyme disease can migrate into the roots of the teeth

Yeah but it was the next morning

I will say that it helped lead to the hilarious shot of Ali and Hawke when the son asked if they thought Taylor was okay lol

checkplease
Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
The Boyfriend it’s crazy that Ken Russell made this around the same time as the Devils. But like the Devils it also has fantastic sets and production with some great performances to carry it. I had no background on this particular musical so it took me a few minutes to get into it, but once the first steam version of a song and dance starts up, I was having a good time. My favorite sequences are probably the dancing on the record (happy with you), Tommy tunes dancing, or the big casino like piece. Fun stuff.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Fallen Leaves Very sad that this didn't get an Oscar nomination. I can see why, there are parts that could feel very trite if you aren't already taken in with the film and the way it shows the small beauty that slips in the cracks between the grinding and dull struggle for existence that is living in the lowest rungs of society. The fact that Finns are incapable of expressing any emotion outwardly also makes the film way funnier than it has any right to be.

Scones are Good
Mar 29, 2010
Fallen Leaves is wonderful, and good news if you're new to Aki Kaurismaki: he's got like 30 more movies that are pretty all just as good or even better.

Meaty Ore
Dec 17, 2011

My God, it's full of cat pictures!

Watched The Italian Job (1969) with my wife, and we both loved it. Light entertainment, brisk and witty, and knows not to take itself at all seriously. The chase/escape scene in the MInis isn't visually impressive, certainly not by modern standards, but is fun nonetheless. Leaving the one cop stranded on top of the airport terminal or whatever building it was was just :discourse: Noel Coward was wonderful, maybe my favorite performance in the movie.


Can't say I was terribly fond of the remake of The Manchurian Candidate, though. I understand the appeal of remaking it--the paranoid political atmosphere of the early-mid 00s really felt like it hearkened back to the paranoia of the McCarthy era--but why bother when the original holds up so drat well? I remember thinking the same at the time it came out, though I never got around to seeing it until just recently. I'll say in its favor that Denzel Washington and Jeffrey Wright both do a good job as people who were broken by their experiences, as opposed to the original's two guys who have "recurring nightmares" but otherwise have gotten more or less back to normal. Other than that, it felt really unnecessary, and lacked the stark visual tone of the original, which was one of its strongest points.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Meaty Ore posted:

Watched The Italian Job (1969) with my wife, and we both loved it. Light entertainment, brisk and witty, and knows not to take itself at all seriously. The chase/escape scene in the MInis isn't visually impressive, certainly not by modern standards, but is fun nonetheless. Leaving the one cop stranded on top of the airport terminal or whatever building it was was just :discourse: Noel Coward was wonderful, maybe my favorite performance in the movie.


The Torino Palavela! An indoor arena for all kinds of sports! Also, the rooftop racetrack they go round at one point is the Fiat factory!

The Italian Job is such a fun film, and never a bad time. :3:

Meaty Ore
Dec 17, 2011

My God, it's full of cat pictures!

The_Doctor posted:

The Torino Palavela! An indoor arena for all kinds of sports! Also, the rooftop racetrack they go round at one point is the Fiat factory!

The Italian Job is such a fun film, and never a bad time. :3:

Ah, thanks for the clarification. My knowledge of Italian architecture beyond Classical Roman stuff is quite poor, I just guessed because it reminded me a bit of the TWA terminal at JFK airport, somehow.

Nightmare Cinema
Apr 4, 2020

no.


This thing is a tremendous piece of work. I apologize to the entirety of the Jewish community for being half-asleep during my first viewing of this a month back.

I will give money to my local deli tomorrow to pay my reparations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOQSebV8KFs

:catbert: :cripes:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Ferrari - Well nothing much seems to be happening in this movie, just a lot of rack-focus stunts and cameras being placed on the ground, lots of family drama and not a lot of racing, not sure what all the buzz is ab—
:stare::stare::stare::stare::stare:

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Gasoline Wedding Harold Lloyd
Absolutely hilarious. You know you're in for a treat when Lloyd parks his car and throws out the anchor. Getting a classic wedding switch up, a Hitman prereference, croquet mallet violence, and yelling at your car like it's a dog in ten minutes as well though, that's what shows a master at work.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
In the Heat of the Night. Another basic classic that lived up to the hype. Poitier is an unbelievably magnetic screen presence.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Murder on the Orient Express (1974) - well this was just a light good time. And now at least I will know all the riffs when I see them

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.
Dumb Money. This loving movie can hodl my dilz with its diamond hands until I nut to the moon and then take me out for chicken tendies.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

Data Graham posted:

Ferrari - Well nothing much seems to be happening in this movie, just a lot of rack-focus stunts and cameras being placed on the ground, lots of family drama and not a lot of racing, not sure what all the buzz is ab—
:stare::stare::stare::stare::stare:
Haven't seen it, don't want to see it, so please spoil the :stare:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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One particular extreme slow-motion car crash scene that kills 9 people by showing the airborne car rolling over them at 5 feet off the ground and mowing them down like grass

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Also I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with all of the unfired Chekhov's guns that seemed to be peppered all over the movie. Like it spent an hour's worth of screen time repeatedly pointing out how the drivers are smoking and how there is no safety gear and how smoking is how so-and-so driver is so fast etc, interleaved with Enzo talking about how the pit crew needs to be careful to try to get the fuel into the tank instead of all over the driver; and then, and then! When you least expect it ... the driver is NOT engulfed in flames during a refueling spill. Instead we get the above^^. So I'm like ... is all this just sly misdirection and subversion of my basic-film-viewer expectations? Did an important scene get edited out? Is he so good at filmmaking it's indistinguishable from being bad? Or am I getting worse at reading films the harder I try to get better

Anyway I do find it extremely funny how in movies like this you always have to have (for instance) Maserati being The Evil Racing Team, just like your protagonist's rock band is up against The Evil Rock Band or your protagonist's karate school is up against The Evil Karate School

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Mann was drawn to the even because so much was happening all in such a short period of time, but what he was really fascinated with was how despite everything feeling so momentous in the moment the truth is nothing really was wrapped up. Ferrari is still in trouble financially, his marriage is still hosed as is his son's life, he hasn't solved a single problem only clarified what those problems are and created paths to try to tackle them in the future.

Mann was on a podcast talking about how he was screwing around with the screen play during filming and production and the most important thing he did was to keep everything in flux and not tied up. He wasn't you to feel constant tension that something is going to break or come together, and it never does. It's something he's leaned on since the beginning. Think of Thief or Heats ending. There's this incredible amount of things happening in a compressed time period, but at the end of the day life goes on. Caans going to walk off and start stealing again, Vincent is going to continue failing in relationships and catching criminals, Chris is going to have to pick up the pieces and move on from Neil's death and the betrayal of Charlene. The only finality in a Mann film is death, and it can come at any time because time is luck.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Cool then, that's exactly the vibe it left me with.

novice: "there is no story, I just filmed real life lol"
intermediate: "I distilled a slice of open-ended real life into a compelling narrative that fits neatly into 90 minutes of running time and feels like a complete and satisfying story"
advanced: "life is not a story, deal with it"

Data Graham fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jan 27, 2024

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Data Graham posted:

Anyway I do find it extremely funny how in movies like this you always have to have (for instance) Maserati being The Evil Racing Team, just like your protagonist's rock band is up against The Evil Rock Band or your protagonist's karate school is up against The Evil Karate School

You should watch Ford v. Ferrari then. The Ferrari driver is a menacing, swarthy gentleman and never says a word.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Safety Factor posted:

You should watch Ford v. Ferrari then. The Ferrari driver is a menacing, swarthy gentleman and never says a word.

I almost mentioned it there, yes. And the Ferrari pit crew is comically inept, yelling in Italian and going 🤌🤌🤌 while trying to figure out where that nut came from

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
I have a weekly movie night with my friends where we each pick one movie, which can often result in bizarre triple features. Case in point:

Zatoichi: Darkness is His Ally (1989)
This was my pick because one of them had recently bought it for me and they’d never seen a Zatoichi movie before. I’ve seen this one and iirc the first 17 of the originals, so this was more about watching their reactions to it. I think they liked it? I’d forgotten that it’s more somber and kind of understated than the majority of the other movies. It holds up for the most part though, especially the last hour.

The Player (1992)
I’m always 50/50 love/hate with Altman and I think maybe this one just didn’t click with me in general. Any scene with Tim Robbins trying to get away with murder or freaking out over blackmail, I loved. Every scene where the movie just stopped dead in its tracks to shove in a cameo, I hated. I get that that’s part of the setting and tone the movie is going for, but it just wasn’t for me. I wanted to like this movie more, and it’s a shame because all the stuff I actually enjoyed was loving great. If it had been just a touch less indulgent it would’ve been perfect (for me anyway).

No Holds Barred (1989)
:sigh:

I don’t even know where to begin with this one. The 80% of the movie where you can just laugh at the racist hot dog man trying to act or Tiny Lister devouring the scenery as an incredible heel is honestly a pretty fun watch. But then the movie will immediately whiplash pivot to Hulk trying to comfort some poor woman after she’s been assaulted by her boss or assaulted in a garage or …assaulted in an elevator and it’s like… what in the gently caress were you thinking, movie?

I’d like to call it a light recommend if only for the incredible montage of Hulk teaching his brother how to walk again, but just watch it on YouTube. Don’t give the movie your money by any means.

Big Mean Jerk fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Jan 28, 2024

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

they were thinking "we are contractually obligated to hit 90 minutes and get this movie wrapped by the deadline or Vince McMahon will kill us with his bare hands" and so they went to work.

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Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

The Grifters Imagine my surprise when three hours into this feature I pause the film to take a piss and realize that somehow it's only been 50 minutes. Truly an incompetent film on every* level. Cusack's character is fully unconvincing as someone on the grift, if he tried to pull any poo poo he'd have gotten hosed up way worse than he did much earlier. Benning is retroactively getting her Nyad nom unnommed after this poo poo. Huston is fine, but you can't save a film with one good performance.

The entire time I was watching I was thinking about Better Call Saul. How dynamic they made the cons, how visually exciting the direction could be especially for TV, how it didn't try to drop a two bit oedipus bit into it's incompetent and dull story of people walking around doing jack poo poo for two hours, how it treated the viewers like adults. For that last bit let's look at how Grifters treats its audience. Roy and Lilly clearly have a weird relationship, we know she was very young when he was born, we know his girl and his mom look much alike. Okay interesting perhaps we can lean into that subtextually...oh nevermind we have Benning staring into a mirror realizing she looks just like Lilly, then her telling Roy he wants to gently caress his mother, then a woman mistaking her for Lilly, then Lilly asking if Roy wants to gently caress her to his face. Garbage. All of this is accompanied by awful music stings and a generally terrible score.

Save your time, watch two episodes of Better Call Saul before you watch this poo poo

*there is a single shot near the very end where Huston is going down an elevator that is inexplicably beautiful. It's like a competent director was visiting set one day and decided to flex a little on this Frear moron.

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