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CelticPredator posted:Ive been collecting action figures and other garbage for decades now since like 2003 and post pandemic I've noticed an extreme uptick in people hanging around the collectible sections in stores. As someone only peripherally connected to the collectibles scene I do feel like there's been a shift in how collectibles are being pushed. When I think of what motivates the traditional collector, an appreciation of the actual thing they're collecting is usually top of my list - People who collect Transformers think the little transforming robot figures are neat, People who collect Gundams appreciate the artistry and design of the models, etc. Yet there's been kind of a shift on the part of the companies making the collectibles to push a brand as opposed to an actual object. While it's perhaps a little gauche at this point to dunk on Funko Pops, they're a really illustrative to me of this sort of collecting as consumption mindset. Funko Pops are pretty much all the same and, while there's definitely artistry in simplicity, there's not really much to them - they're all created off the same template, they have no lore or original thought baked into them, their only selling point is the pre-existing media property they're branded with. Like, I can't imagine someone who desperately needs to get the limited edition Golden Pickle Rick Funko Pop because they admire the artistry behind its design, it's just another object to slap a brand label on. Its like an even worse resurgence of the speculative collectibles bubble of the 1990s.
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Jan 22, 2024 21:47
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It's been mentioned a couple times already but yeah Stanley already made expensive tumblers/thermoses for ages, it's not some lovely startup with a gimmicky product that can't be used without an app and explodes if you touch it wrong. I don't really think it's inherently any different than fidget spinners or gel pens or other things that become trendy (yes I know I'm dating myself immensely with these examples)
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Jan 22, 2024 21:51
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It's important to note that a lot of the Stanley cup discourse is inherently laced with misogyny. This critique and attention hasn't been applied at the same level of Sneakerhead culture, a more male dominated space. They're the same loving thing. Rampant unchecked consumerism built by false scarcity and marketing.
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Jan 22, 2024 21:59
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Slotducks posted:It's important to note that a lot of the Stanley cup discourse is inherently laced with misogyny. This critique and attention hasn't been applied at the same level of Sneakerhead culture, a more male dominated space. who cares. its loser behavior regardless of the gender lol e: you're right. other consumerist spaces dont get the same level of scrutiny. they should
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Jan 22, 2024 22:00
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Im4YAMWK74 this video kinda sucks cuz it implies korea is uniquely sexist when it comes to internet hate mobs due to neo-confuscionism or something, when that type of poo poo is a worldwide thing. idk maybe someone with a better idea of korean gacha drama could elaborate further since i'm not involved in that community. also karl jobst is a hack
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Jan 22, 2024 22:04
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I remember that dude made a video on trans characters in Japanese games that was extremely surface level "Japan is a collectivist culture while America is individualist culture" stuff. Wasn't very impressed.
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Jan 22, 2024 22:07
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KingKalamari posted:
I don't think so imo. Here's the thing, the problem I have with funko collectors is like, you have no love for this property. you just love the item. It's odd to me because you search high and low and for what it means nothing to you. poo poo like this dude are wild to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-cbkkj-VNI
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Jan 22, 2024 22:07
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Slotducks posted:It's important to note that a lot of the Stanley cup discourse is inherently laced with misogyny. This critique and attention hasn't been applied at the same level of Sneakerhead culture, a more male dominated space. You're definitely right. Sneakerculture elicits similar reactions from me, but you definitely don't see the same derision that gets leveled at...literally anything women do. Definitely loser behavior either way, but still FD Signifier shared an older video of his on the complex history of Mike Tyson, and his relationship with masculinity (black masculinity specifically). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC-V9gxqR9M Which led me to his two-parter about Kanye West and what he meant to parts of the black community who didn't really conform to what mainstream culture considered to be a Typical Black Male, and as someone who doesn't really listen to hip-hop, I think I finally get what made Kanye so special and why his downward spiral is so tragic (despite the obvious) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvgehVhF9D4 Really good watches!
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Jan 22, 2024 22:12
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Cosmonaut Marcus on every Batman film Part 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8h1StRhxs8
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Jan 22, 2024 22:12
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fun hater posted:e: i do not own a Stanley cup, but can see the appeal/kind of want one. its huge, has a straw and lid, fits in cup holders and has a handle. and bc it was made for working men originally, they last forever I own three of them, because I'm the best at sports.
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Jan 22, 2024 22:47
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Cosmonaut Marcus on every Batman film Part 2. I liked this well enough but I like Marcus' other big franchise reviews better, I think because in this one he gets too caught up in trying to measure each movie against his own idea of what Batman should be and I just don't care about that very much.
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Jan 22, 2024 22:59
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euroshopper posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Im4YAMWK74 Gacha is *serious* business in japan/china/korea but that video was not good. It goes somewhere like Confucius -> Gender wars -> Unsexy swimsuit -> Gacha game rage without much to substantiate why the gently caress would that be the case. My alternate theory is that you don't need Confucius to understand why lovely swimsuit —> Gacha game rage when you're paying 100+ dollars to get it. Gacha rage -> death threats doesn't need any justification, it's expected by now.
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Jan 22, 2024 23:07
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From what I gathered Korea is not in any way uniquely sexist but President Yoon has basically emboldened incels so they feel even better about vomiting death threats over waifu gachas than they do elsewhere.
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Jan 22, 2024 23:11
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The gacha stuff is just the same issue as the Starfield poo poo. Consumers have an emotional connection to the product and want to love it. So if the product doesn't meet they exact wants they would prefer finding a person or people to hate, rather than disliking product.
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Jan 22, 2024 23:11
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Saagonsa posted:I remember that dude made a video on trans characters in Japanese games that was extremely surface level "Japan is a collectivist culture while America is individualist culture" stuff. Wasn't very impressed. that poo poo's always so lame lol
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Jan 22, 2024 23:20
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"Japan is so different because of Confucianism," was an essay I wrote back in 7th grade. I'd expect a better thesis from an actual lawyer
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Jan 22, 2024 23:27
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The striking thing about the Korean anti-feminist movement is how successful their campaigns are even when they're absurdly stupid and minor. 5 days ago the Arknights publisher cut ties with an artist solely because she tweeted in support of international women's day six years ago. There have been multiple controversies because a character makes a hand gesture vaguely close to 🤏, which is apparently a vile attack against men by implying they have tiny penises. Basically any time the incels scream at a company about any grievance, no matter how petty, the company bends completely to their whims. And it's more than just gacha fans, the current Korean president won his campaign off the back of anti-feminist backlash. It's really bad. Gamergate had to morph a bitter ex-boyfriend's rants into a whole conspiracy theory about journalism ethics to get similar public support, and they haven't been anywhere near as successful since. I think framing it as something unique to Korean culture is a little much though - reactionary men's movements the world over would love to have the same success as Korean incels.
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Jan 22, 2024 23:32
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Pigbuster posted:The striking thing about the Korean anti-feminist movement is how successful their campaigns are even when they're absurdly stupid and minor. 5 days ago the Arknights publisher cut ties with an artist solely because she tweeted in support of international women's day six years ago. There have been multiple controversies because a character makes a hand gesture vaguely close to 🤏, which is apparently a vile attack against men by implying they have tiny penises. Basically any time the incels scream at a company about any grievance, no matter how petty, the company bends completely to their whims. And it's more than just gacha fans, the current Korean president won his campaign off the back of anti-feminist backlash. It's really bad. Gamergate had to morph a bitter ex-boyfriend's rants into a whole conspiracy theory about journalism ethics to get similar public support, and they haven't been anywhere near as successful since. I think framing it as something unique to Korean culture is a little much though - reactionary men's movements the world over would love to have the same success as Korean incels. The situation regarding feminism in Korea is a very depressing and disturbing situation but one slightly humorous thing is how you can never draw a character with the index finger and thumb extended in Korea ever again.  Behold the secret feminist handsignal.
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Jan 22, 2024 23:41
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women have enjoyed opposable thumbs for too long
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Jan 22, 2024 23:46
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mycot posted:The situation regarding feminism in Korea is a very depressing and disturbing situation but one slightly humorous thing is how you can never draw a character with the index finger and thumb extended in Korea ever again. Send the biggest losers in to a frothing rage with this ONE WEIRD TRICK
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Jan 22, 2024 23:53
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The idea is that the hand gesture is a sign that the company has been infiltrated by sleeper feminists who plan to destroy gaming (and they spend all their time slipping in visible clues about their plan like all conspiracies do because ???). Basically it's more dumb woke agenda stuff but with old fashioned woman hating instead of being laser focused on trans and gay people.
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Jan 22, 2024 23:54
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when an incel doesn't score
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Jan 23, 2024 00:01
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No, you see, the big-titty succubus with the womb tattoo in the transparent maid outfit is making the fem-signal with her hands. The feminazis obviously designed her.
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Jan 23, 2024 00:10
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Happy Landfill posted:This comment basically sums up the large diatribe I was just about to post Good username in the context of this topic
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Jan 23, 2024 00:14
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All I know about white lady collecting is that it is not a new phenomenon. Grandma loving loves her Hummels.
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Jan 23, 2024 00:17
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mycot posted:The idea is that the hand gesture is a sign that the company has been infiltrated by sleeper feminists who plan to destroy gaming (and they spend all their time slipping in visible clues about their plan like all conspiracies do because ???). Basically it's more dumb woke agenda stuff but with old fashioned woman hating instead of being laser focused on trans and gay people. Yeah it's basically qanon but instead of it being about how the gay trans are destroying culture and are secretly.evil it's just women.
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Jan 23, 2024 00:27
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B33rChiller posted:All I know about white lady collecting is that it is not a new phenomenon. Nendoroids are just Precious Moments action figures
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Jan 23, 2024 00:37
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more then a dingus YouTuber writing at a 12th grade level, I'd recommend the short story collection Flowers of Mold by Ha Seong-nan which does a much better job of representing Korean culture and the way misogyny is expressed because it's by a Korean woman.
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Jan 23, 2024 00:42
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mycot posted:The idea is that the hand gesture is a sign that the company has been infiltrated by sleeper feminists who plan to destroy gaming (and they spend all their time slipping in visible clues about their plan like all conspiracies do because ???). Basically it's more dumb woke agenda stuff but with old fashioned woman hating instead of being laser focused on trans and gay people. i think a lot of people forget the rw culture war was very explicitly anti-feminist prior to 2017, and that blaire white grew in popularity because she and fellow anti-sj trans women were seen as brave minority dissidents against the powerful feminists
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Jan 23, 2024 00:48
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basically some trans women were tolerated in reactionary circles before the push for mainstream acceptance grew around 2018, which then the anti-feminist culture war dudes moved onto the anti-trans stuff from my recollection
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Jan 23, 2024 00:51
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you can't control women without first controlling who is a woman
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Jan 23, 2024 00:59
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aww, are stanleys a trend now? i have an old stanley thermos i stole from my dad that's great for coffee, now what do i do with it?
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Jan 23, 2024 01:04
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Karasu Tengu posted:aww, are stanleys a trend now? i have an old stanley thermos i stole from my dad that's great for coffee, now what do i do with it? Take a selfie with it for 1000's of likes
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Jan 23, 2024 01:05
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I feel like if I leave this thumbnail open on my monitor for more than 5 minutes it's going to permanently burn an impression onto the screen.
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Jan 23, 2024 01:05
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Karasu Tengu posted:aww, are stanleys a trend now? i have an old stanley thermos i stole from my dad that's great for coffee, now what do i do with it? it's probably not the specific style everyone is buying so it's still uncool, don't worry
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Jan 23, 2024 01:06
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Nuns with Guns posted:I feel like if I leave this thumbnail open on my monitor for more than 5 minutes it's going to permanently burn an impression onto the screen. He didn’t even get the wackiest Funko, total false advertising. The wackiest Funko is “dead Laura Palmer in plastic wrap” and I reject all alternative answers.
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Jan 23, 2024 01:21
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a big thing in korea is also what happened with geun-hye. imagine if hillary clinton got elected president and then was revealed to literally, actually be the puppet of an insane cult and then they Locked Her Up. imagine the state of feminism in the US if that happened.
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Jan 23, 2024 01:26
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and i wouldnt say 'korea is uniquely sexist' exactly but i do think there is a unique set of circumstances and environments over there that makes it much more volatile and leads to stuff like this. like korean guys tried to go after one of the artists on genshin impact because she's a korean feminist who moved to china and outright had old tweets making fun of men, and the genshin devs just ignored them completely because they had no particular reason to fire one of their lead artists because of some guys in one of the many regions the game was released in. and the korean dudes literally could not comprehend that they were being ignored cause theyd had so much success with korean companies. so there is something to unpack there. edit: also if it makes everyone feel better the guys going after genshin also got scammed out of thousands of dollars because some guy rolled up and was like 'hey send all your money to this anonymous donation box and i will uhhh, spend it on getting the genshin devs to care, somehow' and then everyone actually did put money in. and then he ran off of course. so miracles really do happen Endorph fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jan 23, 2024 |
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Jan 23, 2024 01:31
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Saagonsa posted:I remember that dude made a video on trans characters in Japanese games that was extremely surface level "Japan is a collectivist culture while America is individualist culture" stuff. Wasn't very impressed.
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Endorph posted:a big thing in korea is also what happened with geun-hye. imagine if hillary clinton got elected president and then was revealed to literally, actually be the puppet of an insane cult and then they Locked Her Up. imagine the state of feminism in the US if that happened. If we are thinking the same person it's that president who wasn't immediately at the scene of one of Korea 's worst ferry disaster because she was busy doing some cult ceremony poo poo, right? Also remembering how shinzo Abe was assassinated due to him promoting the moonies and now Japan is actively scrubbing out his legacy
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