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Simplex
Jun 29, 2003

Wolfsheim posted:

Speaking of movies about digital fantasy lands I recently watched Vanilla Sky after hearing bad things about it forever and it's more just kind of mediocre than truly awful, like a forgettable Twilight Zone episode that's a little too long and happens to star A-list actors.

Did people really dislike that one? I just remember it having a really funny line read by Cameron Diaz.

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1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Inspector Hound posted:

Ha, you're right, it's one of the news articles about Morpheus open on Neo's screen before Trinity contacts him. The human population presumably isn't as large as it used to be, so I figured they could only populate one city, along with the phone book and bits of dialogue mentioning "the highway" and "the mountains," not specific places.

I kinda dig the idea that it's just one mega city with like a mountain and lake nearby, but yeah it seems like there's a London, probably a Hollywood since they mention the idea of famous actors. It's one of those fun Matrix things to think about. Like are all the politicians in the world just Agents/Machines? Is it always 1999 era in the Matrix or did they have a 1960s an 1840s?

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Wolfsheim posted:

Speaking of movies about digital fantasy lands I recently watched Vanilla Sky after hearing bad things about it forever and it's more just kind of mediocre than truly awful, like a forgettable Twilight Zone episode that's a little too long and happens to star A-list actors.

My memory is that the Spanish original works better in that it's basically just an extended Twilight Zone episode and is no longer or treated more seriously than it has to be.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

nonathlon posted:

My memory is that the Spanish original works better in that it's basically just an extended Twilight Zone episode and is no longer or treated more seriously than it has to be.

Vanilla Sky came out right when I was getting into film seriously and I remember watching it after watching the original and thinking for the first time "why did this need to get remade?"

There was a time where young, innocent Medullah thought "all remakes have to be better than the original right? They wouldn't make them if they didn't"

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

What Dreams May Come does it better, but I have no idea if it's streaming somewhere

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock
I recall Vanilla Sky was in the news because they completely emptied Times Square of people and cars to film a scene

Of course today they would just do it with green screens and composition

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
I love Vanilla Sky. Saw the original too but felt like the remake improved it in every way. Love the soundtrack too. Rewatch it from time to time and it still holds up.

It's not even a guilty pleasure I just think it's well made.

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

BonoMan posted:

I love Vanilla Sky. Saw the original too but felt like the remake improved it in every way. Love the soundtrack too. Rewatch it from time to time and it still holds up.

It's not even a guilty pleasure I just think it's well made.

It’s one of the most terrifying ideas I’ve ever seen in a movie. Body dysmorphia + unreliable dreams you can’t wake up from
:cry:

CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.
I love Vanilla Sky :(

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

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Midnight Pooptrain posted:

I love Vanilla Sky :(

Vanilla Sky is cool and it was especially cool for its time.

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem

Midnight Pooptrain posted:

I love Vanilla Sky :(

Yeah it’s legit one of my favorite movies. My husband accuses me of having a crush on Tom Cruise (I don’t) he just happens to be in a lot of good movies that I rewatch frequently!

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
There is a Kevin James heist movie Lift on Netflix that's basically Money Plane 2: Lift Off where they must steal a huge pile of gold from a huge safe on a plane.
It's very dumb but with a budget roughy nine million times that of Money Plane it looks pretty slick and has actual actors like Billy Magnussen and Vincent d'Onfrio.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
oh i thought it was just accepted that vanilla sky was a bomb but maybe i'm way off lol

though i was also watching it after seeing a million variations on the kind of "what if you're living in a dream...but by choice?" style TV shows and movies and books and etc so the novelty of the premise just isn't there for me

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
also a lot of good seasons of television ended the last couple weeks

The Curse is amazing, as previously mentioned. Ten hours of the cringiest deadpan you've ever seen from Nathan Fielder and friends followed by an ending that is somehow both thematically relevant and a huge gently caress-you. Loved it.

Fargo did pretty well this season. It ends a little too cleanly for my tastes (the good guys win and the bad guys lose) but it's still a huge improvement over the absolute dud of the Chris Rock season. It also feels like it has the most overt Coen callbacks to date, with so many scenes and ideas and structures lifted almost directly from their works, though usually by being turned on their head a little bit which is fun. Fun fact: the Coens hate this show and do not want people to mention it around them!

Reacher okay I wouldn't call this a good show but it's entertaining, sometimes entertainingly stupid but there it is. The ending is absolutely ridiculous, with the villain who had been killing his way to this arms deal dying so immediately and without a fight that you wonder why they showed his journey at all, Reacher and his team both doing wacky 'sure you can go...psych!'-style execution against the remaining bad guys and Reacher stealing millions in unmarked bearer bonds and doling them out to friends and loved ones like a homeless caveman Santa Claus while the government just kind of winks and lets him do it. I'm half-tempted to actually start reading the books if any of them are half as bonkers as this.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
I watched the first episode of VOIR, which is a collection of essays on movies that mattered to the essayist.

The first one was from a gal who was 10 years old when JAWS came out. It started out extremely good and hit me hard, but the last ~7 minutes devolved into a truly bizarre screed about how teenage boys ruined the moviemaking industry. It was so offputting and poorly reasoned that I don't particularly want to watch the rest of 'em.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
The Reacher books are a blast, if you liked the show at all then you should read them.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

I watched the first episode of VOIR, which is a collection of essays on movies that mattered to the essayist.

The first one was from a gal who was 10 years old when JAWS came out. It started out extremely good and hit me hard, but the last ~7 minutes devolved into a truly bizarre screed about how teenage boys ruined the moviemaking industry. It was so offputting and poorly reasoned that I don't particularly want to watch the rest of 'em.

This sounds on par with people who make movie essays in 2024

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

Wolfsheim posted:


Reacher okay I wouldn't call this a good show but it's entertaining, sometimes entertainingly stupid but there it is. The ending is absolutely ridiculous, with the villain who had been killing his way to this arms deal dying so immediately and without a fight that you wonder why they showed his journey at all, Reacher and his team both doing wacky 'sure you can go...psych!'-style execution against the remaining bad guys and Reacher stealing millions in unmarked bearer bonds and doling them out to friends and loved ones like a homeless caveman Santa Claus while the government just kind of winks and lets him do it. I'm half-tempted to actually start reading the books if any of them are half as bonkers as this.

A lot of the books have random guys like that and you get little snippets all through the book of their journey to wherever and then they meet reacher and it gets resolved with less than a paragraph. The book they are possibly doing for season 3 does the same thing with a truck driver involved in human trafficking and he literally just shows up where reacher is and gets killed immediately. It's been a bit since I read the book but I'm pretty sure he just gets out of the truck and then dropped

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

B-Rock452 posted:

A lot of the books have random guys like that and you get little snippets all through the book of their journey to wherever and then they meet reacher and it gets resolved with less than a paragraph. The book they are possibly doing for season 3 does the same thing with a truck driver involved in human trafficking and he literally just shows up where reacher is and gets killed immediately. It's been a bit since I read the book but I'm pretty sure he just gets out of the truck and then dropped

Is that s3 speculation based on the recent Lee Child quote about it being a solo adventure or is there more info out there about this?

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

buffalo all day posted:

Is that s3 speculation based on the recent Lee Child quote about it being a solo adventure or is there more info out there about this?

Yeah the rumors I heard was they were gonna do "Worth dying for."

That book ends with Reacher calling a Major Turner who is the new leader of the special investigators and discovering she was arrested and sets up the next book.

I could picture them using that to get the surviving members back together, it's pretty clear they aren't fully following the books so who knows though.

Also I will say I really like the books. I started them right after my wife got diagnosed with cancer and then COVID started. Pretty much read every one honestly because you always know what you are gonna get and at times felt like one of the only stable things in my life. Reacher shows up, bad people exist and he punches them all to death.

B-Rock452 fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jan 22, 2024

Tainen
Jan 23, 2004
The new season of True Detective has been fantastic so far. They really nailed the horror vibes and I’m am fully invested in the mystery.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
I'm not going to spoiler this because it is just Reacher, but there is one book where het gets shot in the chest but it doesn't matter because it is a relatively small gun and the bullet lodges harmlessly in his massive pectoral muscle. It rules.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:
His torso is described as a "condom stuffed with walnuts" you really think a bullet will penetrate that?

The random items the author compares his hands to is also fantastic. Hands the size of frozen turkeys is my favorite.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Reacher said nothing.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Does the series get as funny as the first Tom Cruise movie cuz I love how weird that is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ4t78fM4w0
I guess it can't really compete with having Herzog, Zatoichi Robert Duvall, and the optimal use of Jai Courtney (not much dialogue, beaten to death).

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

I just started Reacher yesterday. It's dumb fun and has some nice chuckles. I'm enjoying it!

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Lil' Tim Cruise cannot be Reacher, and the show is better than the movie because it takes itself less seriously.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
Tom Cruise makes more sense as Reacher because why do so many people pick fights with a guy that looks like the Incredible Hulk?

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

live with fruit posted:

Tom Cruise makes more sense as Reacher because why do so many people pick fights with a guy that looks like the Incredible Hulk?

But that's precisely what makes it more fun! They're so evil and arrogant they think they can win a grappling match with Bigfoot.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

withak posted:

Lil' Tim Cruise cannot be Reacher, and the show is better than the movie because it takes itself less seriously.
Its only right that the tiniest man in America is the one who defends its freedoms

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Reacher should really have a random bigfoot episode for no reason, like the Six Million Dollar Man did.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Reacher said nothing.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Reacher said nothing.
Bigfoot said “oou”

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well

Wolfsheim posted:

Fun fact: the Coens hate this show and do not want people to mention it around them!

Do you have a source for this? I thought they said they didn’t mind that it existed, but wouldn’t watch it, or something like that.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

I watched the first episode of VOIR, which is a collection of essays on movies that mattered to the essayist.

The first one was from a gal who was 10 years old when JAWS came out. It started out extremely good and hit me hard, but the last ~7 minutes devolved into a truly bizarre screed about how teenage boys ruined the moviemaking industry. It was so offputting and poorly reasoned that I don't particularly want to watch the rest of 'em.

I watched this too and couldn’t finish the first episode. WAY different than I was expecting, since this was from the Every Frame a Painting people. What a weird episode of tv.

ozmunkeh
Feb 28, 2008

hey guys what is happening in this thread
I miss Every Frame a Painting. That was some good YouTube.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

frogbs posted:

I watched this too and couldn’t finish the first episode. WAY different than I was expecting, since this was from the Every Frame a Painting people. What a weird episode of tv.

I was fine with it being extremely personal and an almost slice-of-life narrative with the relationship between the essayist and the movie at the center. I was not ok with the bizarre 40-year old axe to grind against teenaged boys in the 80s that was then expanded to make them culpable for the decline of movies. It seemed histronic and pathetic.

Also, I saw who the next essayist was, and it was Drew McWeeny, aka Moriarty from Ain't It Cool News. I've never been impressed with a single thing of his I've ever read, so that pretty much sealed the deal.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

putting on escape plan 2. i have not seen 1. guessing he escaped using the plan. we'll see about this time tho

sweet, dave bautista is in this. he plays a dude with a shotgun

A MIRACLE fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jan 23, 2024

Cithen
Mar 6, 2002


Pillbug
I remember people hating on Venom when it came out, but this movie is just stupid fun bullshit.

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Cithen posted:

I remember people hating on Venom when it came out, but this movie is just stupid fun bullshit.

It’s way better than it should be. Hardy really fuckin sells it, the cgi is good, and it mixes a ton with physical stunts that don’t feel like they’re all on a sound stage.

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Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

I'm always on board for Riz Ahmed, too

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