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so you're just mad he didn't write and create an entirely different comic? ok.
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I'm criticizing his point for being hypocritical, it's his choice to be that, but if he does it's hardly unfair or unreasonable of me to point it out. You asked me how he could salvage the cartoon from charges of hypocrisy, I'm afraid the only way to do that is by drawing it with a different, non-hypocritical point. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jan 24, 2024 |
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*shrug* ok. so you don't have a problem with the comic itself, you're just mad we don't live in a universe where both sides are always represented in a fair and balanced manner. ok. you're going to be mad a whole bunch in this thread.
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Honestly, I expect the hypocrisy from political cartoonists. I mean, it's kind of in their job description. They've got their party, and they've got that party's agenda to push. Lester's job is to tell us that drug trafficking Mexican gangs capable of going Super Saiyan on police are vaulting over the border to burn our women and rape our churches and steal our jobs. Bennett's job is to cheerlead the blue team and say that they can do only good and the red team can do only bad. I'm more offended by just how lazy Bennett has gotten ever since 2016. Trump winning the election really broke him. He used to regularly knock it out of the park with his cartoons; crisp, clear visual metaphors with actual craft and skill. And you can still see echoes of it. I mean, he puts more effort into drawing a blank piece of paper than Gorrell does in turning in a blank cartoon, but he's still a long way from where he used to be.
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Most of the appeal of this thread is getting to make ourselves mad over the worst political takes of all time. This thread has Yakov Kirschen in it. Sometimes a bad take will come from a Democrat, you've just gotta roll with it.
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I for one am here to watch an ideological collapse through the medium of political cartooning
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the_steve posted:I'm more offended by just how lazy Bennett has gotten ever since 2016. To be fair, that broke a lot of people, including me. I don't want to think how I'll be if Trump wins again
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JamesBont posted:To be fair, that broke a lot of people, including me. I don't want to think how I'll be if Trump wins again I feel like that guy in Austin Powers who just stands there and shouts "noooooo" as a steamroller slowly bears down on him from a long ways away. I can see it coming to crush me yet I can't get out of the way.
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I don't get it but lmao @ that last panel
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Microplastics posted:I don't get it but lmao @ that last panel Rush Limbaugh encouraged Republicans to register as Democrats and vote for Hillary in the 2008 primaries to stop Obama.
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even gave it a name "operation chaos". it was the first thing i thought of too
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Kellies Nomination: Best Edit/Parody Amjad Rasmi  Bill Bramhall  Carlos Latuff  Christopher Weyant  Clay Bennett  Dave Whamond  David Horsey  David Horsey posted:There are various reasons people think school kids should have their cellphones with them in class. Most of those reasons are pretty lame. David M. Hitch  Ed Gamble  Jeff Danziger  Jeff Koterba  Jeff Stahler  Jimmy Margulies  John Branch  John Darkow  Lee Judge  Lisa Benson  Matt Davies  Mike Peters  Mike Smith  Rivers  Walt Handelsman  Yaakov Kirschen (Dry Bones) 
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Murdstone posted:It would be great if Haley won NH just to see what the reaction from people like Branco would be.
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World Famous W posted:you can just say you think tara reade's accusations are lies instead of trying to be coy If that was directed at me, I had honestly forgotten about Tara Reade's accusations, but in my defense, even the political cartoonists that despise Biden never seem to bring it up, while they bring up the hair sniffing a fair bit. Which, y'know, could still probably fall into "sexual assault" or "unwanted sexual advancement".
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Pants Donkey posted:Well she’s currently losing by 8% which is shockingly close, especially given how recently DeSantis dropped out
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idonotlikepeas posted:David Horsey Kellies Nomination: Worst "Gizmos!  "Randalor posted:If that was directed at me, I had honestly forgotten about Tara Reade's accusations, but in my defense, even the political cartoonists that despise Biden never seem to bring it up, while they bring up the hair sniffing a fair bit. Which, y'know, could still probably fall into "sexual assault" or "unwanted sexual advancement". I imagine hair sniffing gets drawn more since there's plenty of visual references for that. Visual evidence of Biden assaulting Reade or any of his other accusers is probably a bit harder to come by, plus outright sexual assault probably wouldn't get past many editors.
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VitalSigns posted:Rush Limbaugh encouraged Republicans to register as Democrats and vote for Hillary in the 2008 primaries to stop Obama. But that actually made sense since Obama was more popular with the general public than Clinton
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the_steve posted:Kellies Nomination: Worst "Gizmos! He's right  (but yeah still a gizmos cartoon)
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Kellies nomination: Worst label I know this guy is ancient but bloody hell. This could easily have been a newspaper like what every other cartoonist does to indicate a news item, or at the very least a(nother) speech bubble, but no, it's a sign written in first person AND he's signed it with his name AND his signature has a goddamn exclamation mark
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the_steve posted:plus outright sexual assault probably wouldn't get past many editors.
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Rall: Israel's Overreaction Erases October 7th Ted Rall posted:Israel’s response to the Oct. 7th attack by Hamas has eclipsed the horror of that day.
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Trapezium Dave posted:Rall: Israel's Overreaction Erases October 7th I think this may be the most technically well-constructed cartoon he has ever made. Faint praise I know, but still.
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NRVNQSR posted:I think this may be the most technically well-constructed cartoon he has ever made. Faint praise I know, but still. ...is it because he covered his signature? 
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He shamelessly copy pasted so praise the machine instead.
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Also his "style" for faces actually works on those posters, since you can tell it's a face without having to discern details and they're all zoomed out anyways, since the point is that it's a lot of dead people.
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A.F. Branco Al Goodwyn  Andy Marlette  Chip Bok  Michael Ramirez  Mike Luckovich  Steve Breen  Steve Kelley  Tom Stiglich 
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Skios posted:Tom Stiglich This one might work better if the first two were in any way "Democrat plants."
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Skios posted:Tom Stiglich Kellies nomination: Worst use of a metaphor
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Microplastics posted:I know this guy is ancient but bloody hell. This could easily have been a newspaper like what every other cartoonist does to indicate a news item, or at the very least a(nother) speech bubble, but no, it's a sign written in first person AND he's signed it with his name AND his signature has a goddamn exclamation mark In this particular case, the cartoon would be strictly improved by removing all the text except the word "Florida", and putting that word on his sign instead. It would still be a limp "a thing happened" cartoon, but the image of Desantis having to hitchhike back to Florida could, in theory, make someone laugh.
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Telegnostic posted:This one might work better if the first two were in any way "Democrat plants." Or drugs plants, which he considers a subset of the above. Must be the first time in a while that I've seen a clear avenue for Stiglich to be anti-Dem in a way that is coded as racist instead of incomprehensible and not jump on it.
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Skios posted:Chip Bok
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idonotlikepeas posted:Rivers Also following the decades-old tradition of calling anyone who believes evidence a "cultist", that's just good old fashioned fun
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Microplastics posted:Kellies nomination: Worst label In his defense, Ed lent all of his labeled briefcases to Lisa Benson today.
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Vib Rib posted:Pretty cool how somehow "WEF" became just modern allowed shorthand for "scheming jews"
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Guavanaut posted:Meanwhile, in French politoons there seems to be a quota. That seems to be just Charlie Hebdo and I can’t really get anything off their site anymore which is a shame.
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Skios posted:Tom Stiglich Didn't even bother to remove the alpha layer before sending to publishing, eh? duz fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jan 24, 2024 |
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 Guardian:  "Martin Rowson on what’s powering Rishi Sunak – While his country crumbles, the prime minister is still able to assert himself on the world stage" Telegraph:  Watch: Royal Navy warships crash in Bahrain Matt:  "The Met Office’s bizarre storm advice exposes the new British sickness" Independent:  Air strikes send ‘clearest possible message’ to Houthis, says Cameron Times:  Storm Jocelyn: how trains are disrupted in northern England and Scotland Evening Standard:  Royal Mail could deliver letters just three days a week, says Ofcom
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