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 Previous Threads: 2023 | 2022 | 2021 | 2020 | 2019 | 2018 | 2017 | 2016 | 2015 | 2014 | 2013 | 2012 | 2011 | 2010 | 2009 | 2007-2008 Welcome to the Political Cartoons Thread! This is where we post, discuss, and mock political cartoons and the cartoonists that make them. We are entering presidential primaries AND general elections, so strap yourself in and prepare for another banner year of banal takes and racist cranks. Edits of cartoons are always welcome. So familiarize yourself with the thread rules, download an extremely legal copy of Photoshop, and then dive into D&D's worst thread for over 15 years!   These are thread-specific posting rules in addition to the standard D&D rules. So ignore these at your own risk.
 THESE ARE NOT HARD RULES These are more general guidelines that help keep the thread more pleasant to post in. Feel free to ignore them if you think it'll be particularly funny.
 Q: This guy got paid for this? A: Maybe! Political Cartoonists are generally paid in two ways--as a staff position or on a per-cartoon basis by a syndicate. If a cartoonist is a staff cartoonist, they'll list their employer by their name. These cartoonists are paid a living wage and just about all of their cartoons are actually approved by an editor, printed, and seen by human beings. If a cartoonist is a member of a syndicate, they'll list their syndicate by their name, usually Cagle or U-Click. These syndicates act as a market for editors. We have no idea whether a particular cartoon posted by a syndicate is actually sold. Reportedly, they are sold for around $10 a cartoon, which is then split by the cartoonist and the syndicate. As you can imagine, this means a cartoonist can make very little or very much in syndication. As the internet has ingrained itself in our daily lives over the past 20 years, some cartoonists have found success with crowdfunding such as Patreon or Kickstarter. There are increasingly cartoonists that work solely off of Social Media, though whether or not this is enough for a career is doubtful. Even in the far-flung future of 2024, this strain of cartoonist is still fairly rare, and it remains to be see if the internet will save the dying art form as newspapers continue to whittle down their features to appease shareholders. Some sites, such as the Nib and Counterpoint, are relatively new strain of "pseudo-syndicate" comprised of independent cartoonists that get out work while remaining creator owned and driven. However, the longevity of these sites still remains in doubt, with the Nib unable to sustain itself and shuttering in 2023. Q: How obscure is this guy? Is anyone ever actually going to see this? A: It depends. Most posted in here are either regularly published by papers and magazines, ensuring a decently wise audience, or they are popular on social media sites such as Facebook or Twitter. You can expect old-school newspaper comics to trend towards more centrists ideals (or aggressive dogwhistles or other shibboleths for their actual lovely opinions) whereas artists of all political stripes will tend to go in less mainstream trajectories, especially given that they trend younger than their "professional" contemporaries. If the cartoon is spouting antisemitic poo poo or other hatemongering, then they likely exist solely on the internet. Q: Is everyone posted here an evil, stupid, conservative rear end in a top hat? A: Conservatives, and the right in general, tend to get more traffic as they tend to post more objectionable stuff. Liberals are, well, liberal and tend to post very fluffy stuff that isn't outright objectionable, but it also isn't substantive and thus prone to less chatter unless they have a particularly bad take. Still, we run the whole gamut, from right-wing frothing fascists to bitter communist curmudgeons, and all the cowardly centrists in-between. So don't let the political leaning stop you from posting anything, although the thread does tend to get annoyed when too much overt bigotry gets posted. Q: Did this cartoonist get a Pulitzer for one cartoon or what? A: Pulitzers many decades ago were given out for a particular cartoon or two, but as time goes on it seems to have shifted to the artist's work for the year. So while we make mock someone like Ramirez for obvious "Pulitzer Bait", technically all of his cartoons are judged for the award. Yeah...we don't hold the Pulitzer in high regard. It is worth noting that other awards exist, such as the Herblock Prize or the Thurston Bronze Quill Award. Q: Is this just for American/Canadian cartoonists, or...? A: We allow cartoons of all stripes, and we adore stuff from foreign cartoonists as a break from the usual suspects. There is a thread for UK cartoons, but we've felt that there haven't been enough UK cartoons posted in this thread and would encourage people to start posting them in here again. However it would be nice, if you have the time, to explain some of the stuff that harder to decipher. Q: What about funny page cartoons? Webcomics? A: A cartoon with regular political content, such as Doonesbury or Prickly City, can be posted here no problem. Your Garfield and Family Circus stuff should go to the Comic Strip Megathread in BSS, although feel free to share the rare individual strips that are political in nature. This includes apolitical comics done by political cartoonists, unless it's relevant to the thread like a particular Dustin. Webcomics follow the same procedure: it's fair game if there's overt contemporary political themes, otherwise take it elsewhere. Remember that Day by Day, a political webcomic, is banned from this thread. Take it to the Bad Webcomic Thread or whatever place allows such garbage. Q: Can I share this crazy email from my mom? How about this image macro I saw on Facebook? A: This thread is strictly for political cartoons. There are usually dedicated threads for crazy emails, social media posts, or Freep-watching. Memes are not political cartoons, so keep that Minion image macro your great aunt posted to yourself...unless Glenn McCoy drew it. Q: Can I see more from X? A: We'd really like to see more people consistently posting the same cartoonist(s) so they don't get missed. If you want to step up to the plate for a particular person, then by all means. You can post them as they come, or do weekly dumps if that's easier on you. Q: What happened to the cartoonist index? A: The index was an artifact from when old poster/admin XyloJW made the thread, and I kept it updated for the sake of new people. However, updating and maintaining a list of 100+ artists could only be fueled by someone with a lot of depression-based free time, and I got therapy so I ain't doing that poo poo anymore. Besides, it got so big new people didn't bother using it anyways. As a compromise, Xander77 made a few profiles about the more infamous cartoonists posted here, in case you need a primer: Payne: http://imgur.com/gallery/C2ysj Garrison: http://imgur.com/gallery/ZdFwM Tinsley: http://imgur.com/gallery/hFGWV Gorrell: http://imgur.com/gallery/rnrPT Ramirez: http://imgur.com/gallery/QrEjj Rall: http://imgur.com/gallery/xDjKV Q: Hey, this cartoon isn't political! A: While "the personal is political" is an overused catchphrase to defend seemingly apolitical cartoons, what is and isn't political can get a bit fuzzy. This can be exacerbated if Death of the Author is considered, and whether or not the creator even intended to make a political statement. Just remember that issues such as LGBT rights, racial justice, and especially topics of class struggle are political even if they don't mention a politician or current event. If got a real bee in your bonnet about it then report the offending post to a mod. Q: This thread sucks and I want a better one! A: CSPAM has a thread, for those who are in the mood for a  The thread has developed a few inside jokes and terms. Some of these are woefully out of date, but preserved just in case: AGC: Shorthand for "A Good Cartoon." Basically, you intentionally interpret a comic with a fairly obvious bad message as having a good message. The original point of this was to poke fun at some of the really poor metaphors that some cartoonists were crafting, but the concept of AGC has been run into the ground. If you want to see some quality ones, Saint Sputnik has a blog dedicated to these. Benghazi: While I think everyone is familiar with the 2012 Benghazi attacks, newer users might be unaware that one of the victims was Sean "vilerat" Smith, who was a long-time member and moderator of D&D. Seeing cartoonists use the death of a sincerely missed member of the community as a desperate attempt to smear Obama has made Benghazi a rather sore issue for everyone in this thread. Can't Handle: The thread is known for getting into spats over ridiculous subjects. However, this phrase was used waaaaay too much, and you're not being witty by yelling "Can't Handle!" when people arguing over actual political stuff as opposed to goofy poo poo like weathervanes. Yes, we have actually argued over weathervanes. DASGC: Stands for "Dumb and so Goddamn Crazy." A cartoon that portrays the opposing side as screaming, ignorant children, and their own side as patient, knowledgeable adults. Based on a Shmorky cartoon. Don't Be Willfully Dense: A line from cartoonist Eric Allie when someone pointed out how stupid his cartoon was. Has become a thread motto of sorts to not be an idiot when interpreting the message of any given cartoon. DEBT: A common label to reference how large the USA's federal debt is. Because this is an evergreen topic, it's seen as particularly lazy to submit a cartoon with something big or scary labelled as DEBT. A favored cartoon of artist Michael Ramirez. Gerald: A name given to a stock character used in many conservative cartoons. Typically a standard middle-aged white guy with glasses and little hair. Exists only to wryly point out how bad and dumb the strawman of the day is. It's a Powerful Symbol: Phrase made popular during the short-lived Kelly commentaries. When describing the crying Statue of Liberty, Kelly said "it's a powerful symbol...you don't want to overuse it" when of course the joke is that Liberty is in nearly every Kelly cartoon. Used sarcastically for overused symbolism, especially Liberty but can be anything such as bald eagles or uncle sam. Nonsense...This Is An Election Year: This phrase comes from a cartoon that was the subject of an Onion article mocking nonsensical political cartoons. Sometimes a person may post this phrase in response to a political cartoon, and that's basically a way of saying "this makes no loving sense." Pants Donkey: The nickname for a donkey from an old Mike Luckovich cartoon, and is essentially the mascot of the thread at this point. We have no idea why. PBF: The Perry Bible Fellowship was a webcomic that people frequently over-analyzed, so much to the point that to "PBF" something is to dig way deeper than you were supposed to for a cartoon's meaning. Skull Donkey: Several cartoonists, including Lisa Benson and Jerry Holbert, draw donkeys in such a way that it's easy to edit their snouts into cartoonish skulls. The golden age of skull edits is long over, but it's still a fun game. An example:  becomes  Please put some thought into skull donkey edits! Wormbama: It was common for Michael Ramirez to draw former President Obama with a weird squished face that resembled a worm. The thread game up with this nickname for the phenomenon. You Gotta Give Me the Fangs: Another joke from the brief Kelly video series, it references Kelly begging his editor to keep fangs on a Chinese person. Used to describe when a cartoonist is being especially racist with their caricature. Zionism: Okay, not really unique to this thread, but enough people have asked about it to merit being in here. Zionism, in a very simple definition, is just far-right nationalism for Israel. However, if you are hearing Zionism used in the same context as the Rothschilds or the Illuminati or basically any Dees cartoon, then you're just dealing with antisemitic conspiracy stuff. $CUM PASS: A cartoonist drew a sign intended to read SCUM PASS, but they decided to use a differently colored $ symbol for the S. The end result was something that read CUM PASS and made the thread lose its collective mind. Hentai: The Hent is too drat Hai. A brief edit obsession with the phrase hentai that largely petered out in 2022. Touching the Poop: Communicating with a cartoonist outside of SA. Usually as a bit to get arise out of them, but can include sincere interactions. This is looked down upon, as it can draw legal action upon the site (even if frivolous, lawsuits take time and money to deal with!), some cartoonists are riddled with mental illness that we don't need to provoke, and honestly it's just very weird behavior to begin with.  Some edits, parodies, and cartoons become quite memorable and frequently requested. Please check out the Politoon Archive first before asking for stuff in the thread. I'll try to remember to use the OP to collect memorable stuff from this year, and then archive it at the end of the year.  Sometimes stuff that starts here gets collected on its own site. Note that several of these sites have stopped updating, but the archives are always fun for a spin. A Good Cartoon: Saint Sputnik collects the best AGCs here. Ye Fowl Herald: You know that old medieval tapestry maker thing that was popular on the internet several years ago? Well, Saint Sputnik is using it to recreate Mallard Fillmore strips. Iran Will Have Nukes Any Day Now: Pants Donkey has collected cartoons that predict the imminent threat of a nuclear Iran. Some of these cartoons are over a decade old. If Global Warming Is Real, Then Why Is It Cold: A depressing collection of cartoons that display people's complete lack of climate education. Political PBF: Some unknown genius took old PBF strips and turning them into political cartoons. It's a lot better than it sounds. The Kellies The Kellies are our annual awards for the worst cartoons of the year (and the best edits or parodies). If you see a cartoon you want to nominate, quote it and include "Kellies Nomination:” and the category you want to nominate it for, so the organizers of the contest have an easy way to track nominations. The current categories are:
Around the end of the year, the Kellies thread will be created, where we'll collect the various nominations and also take nominations for Worst Overall Political Cartoon 2024. I'd like more information about the political cartoons I'm reading! This is a cry for help! Check out Wiki Sours, the companion wiki to the Politoons thread! Pants Donkey fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jan 1, 2024 |
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 Everything must come to an end. Here is a list of cartoonists that are no longer producing cartoons and the reason why. Chuck Asay - Old Moral Majority type that had a really pleasant art style behind the ugly opinions. Basically the thread's racist uncle. Retired Don Asmussen: Creator of "Bad Reporter" which was a selection of parody headlines. Used to draw the feature, but eventually turned them into a series of photoshop. Still managed to remain sharply funny, and was a thread favorite until his sudden passing from cancer in 2021. John Backderf - Thread regular that eventually quit. Joel Barbee - Thread regular way back in the day. Split his last name into two lines, prompting the BAR BEE meme. Died. Barry - Drew very weird cartoons that were like a John K fan that didn't quite understand how art worked. Had a weird gopher mascot in most threads. Vanished in the mid 10s. Erin Bonsteel – Young (well ten years ago) woman that portrayed Obama with a gremlin face. Quit; sometimes does vaguely political art but not enough to warrant posting Matt Bors: Leftist cartoonist and creator of the Nib, an online site dedicated to publishing left-leaning political cartoons/essays that tended to skew younger or at least those with less access to mainstream publishing. Did the "We Should Improve Society" cartoon that became a meme sensation. Retired from political cartooning 2021 to focus on journalism, nonfiction cartoons, and running the Nib, which itself went defunct in 2023. Pat Cross: Very Catholic cartoonist that put out cartoons for various conservative outlets. Was vehemently anti-LGBT and more outspoken about it than most of his ilk. Left cartooning to enter the priesthood in August 2022. Dale – Output slowed to a trickle. No new cartoons in 2016 Dees: Bigoted conspiracy theorist that didn't so much draw as made horrifying photoshop abominations. Should have gone into a career as an artist for metal albums, but instead bought into pretty much every conspiracy out there. As stated, he was a huge bigot; racist, homophobic, transphobic (going beyond Michelle Obama and accused multiple supermodels of being secretly trans), and of course he was just a massive anti-Semite that blamed Jews for everything. Sean Delonas: Drew cartoons so hateful and ugly it'd make a British cartoonist blush. Enjoyed drawing his political enemies, especially women, as being so-fat-they-were-spherical despite being a husky dude himself. Was published by the infamous New York Post, during which he drew heat for likening Obama to a chimp in 2009. Around 2013 he was bought out of his contract, but he kept drawing political nightmares until early 2021, when he stopped to focus on Children's books of all things. Brian Fairrington – Cartoonist that seemed very mercenary due to publishing cartoons with contradictory opinions. Vanished; archives deleted from Cagle Glenn Foden (7Oden) - Died in 2016 Tommy Grooms – Of “Ralph and Chuck” infamy. Shifted to Apolitical “Jokes” Jerry Holbert: Developed frontotemporal dementia in 2019 and slowly became unable to produce cartoons. Gave us skull donkeys and got in trouble for that strip with a guy offering Obama watermelon toothpaste. Died of his aforementioned illness in August 2022. Tim Kreider - Drew cartoons with humorous, detailed art. Quit for mental health reasons as a result of the Bush W. years. Righto, what's his name then? - Racist Australian with a particular hatred of the native Australians. Died in March 2017 of a heart attack. His son has taken up the job of being a piece of poo poo. JJ McCullough – Very Canadian. Gay conservative that tended to be more interested in polite politics and formalities. Drew very cute cartoons with varying opinions because...gay Canadian conservative. Has turned to column writing and a YouTube channel that actually has a few interesting videos. Glenn McMcoy: Aggressively conservative and culture war type. Drew Obama in a rainbow tie for years after the former president came out in support for gay marriage. Retired from political cartooning in 2018. Did make a few political cartoons in 2020, but is largely working on apolitical art/cartooning. Mike “Hapajap” Miller – Drew "Electric Tigers", aka the cartoon featuring Obama being murdered by one of the characters, the stupid Yu-Gi-Oh evolution cartoon, and falling for pyramid schemes. Stopped drawing when it threatened his career drawing comic books. Pat Oliphant – Long-running liberal cartoonist. Had a nice art style, but definitely went ten degrees to the right when it came to things like race. Retired. R.P. Overmyer - Drew "Hollywood Dog" a very weird collection of political cartoons featuring the titular pink canine with sunglasses. If Asay was the thread's racist uncle, then Overmyer was the weird hippie uncle who had agreeable opinions but came with off-putting vibes due to being overtly horny all the time. Like, in a "drew nipples on clothed women" sort of tipping your hand. Died in 2010. Jeff Parker - Liberal cartoonist that retired from political cartooning in 2013. Works on the strip Dustin for some inexplicable reason, so he still shows up from time to time. Zack Rawsthorne – Author of “Diversity Lane.” JRRose!: aka John R. Rose. Did political cartoons for Ogden that were I guess best described as "gentle" conservativism, where everyone had smiles and Obama was more a foolish goof than SOCIALIST MENANCE and dad puns were abound. So he sucked, but in a charming way that made him probably one of the least hated of the right-wing cartoonists. Abruptly stopped publishing cartoons a few years back, although he still does the art for the century-old zombie newspaper strip Barney Google. Bruce Tinsley: While Mallard Fillmore is still ongoing, the strip went into reruns in the second half of 2019, and Tinsley was quietly replaced by Loren Fishman on art dutiesin 2020. Tinsley caught tremendous flak for a racist cartoon he drew in August 2019, however it seems the actual reason for the absence seems to be his personal health. Even today, it's unknown what, if any, input Tinsley has on Mallard Fillmore today. His twitter account is suspended, and nobody else has reported on the artist switch because that would require caring about Mallard Fillmore. Tom Toles: Self-described “long-haired liberal” who was one of the old guard that had a career spanning 50 years before retiring in 2020. Had a long-running hatred of the DC Metro, which frequently appeared in his cartoons. Pants Donkey fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jan 1, 2024 |
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100YrsofAttitude posted:I hope to see some good comics this year. I want to believe! Let's stay optimistic. If we're really lucky we might see as many as three
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World Famous W posted:will kirschen manage to make it another year? Uuuggghhhh
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Despite our best efforts, another year of PolComs are upon us
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A.F. Branco Al Goodwyn  John Deering  Michael Ramirez   Mike Luckovich  Steve Breen  Steve Kelley  Tom Stiglich 
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Here's to another year. I am sure things will grow increasingly insufferable around the election, and win or lose, the right wingers are going to be horrible about the results of the election. 
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Skios posted:
Saving this for October when he inevitably bends the knee again
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DarklyDreaming posted:Saving this for October when he inevitably bends the knee again I think he's like Stantis in that as much as he'll whine and cry about Trump, he'll always finish with "But *Democrat* would be worse." The Democratic fallacy cry is "we can push him left!" The Republican fallacy cry is "We can get him to use the dogwhistles!"
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Skios posted:Tom Stiglich Violent crime is down, and significantly so compared to any of the eras that Stiglich would seek to return to. The existence of a specific violent crime (or more likely freedom eagle dot patriot going on about the knockout games again) doesn't mean anything regarding the overall rates. There should be an award category for this kind of "can't tell the difference between weather and climate" deliberate ignorance.
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Skios posted:
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World Famous W posted:will kirschen manage to make it another year? Not going to lie, a small part of the reason I keep following these threads is to see if that lich finally kicks it.
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 quote:GOODBYE 2023. LET’S HOPE 2024 IS AN IMPROVEMENT  than usual. Chemo brain or just brainworms?
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L. Ron DeSantis posted:Boring cartoon, but man, the rant is even more The whole thing is brainworm nonsense, but it could have gone either way on "Biden will use the James Webb telescope to look at children" or "James Webb telescope will change science specifically to own these people I don't like". Unsure why the universe being larger/older than previously predicted is good for Ben either. It used to be that everyone claiming it was older than 10,000 years was an atheist Darwinist Marxist trying to reduce the human spirit to just another animal in rants that also claimed that swat teams were coming for Christians to turn everyone gay.
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I'd like to make a retraction. In the previous thread I accused David Dees of something that was simply wrong. I said David Dees was using an e-meter. Which is a psuedo-medical device that uses electric current to supposedly determine your brain activity, used by Scientologists and splinter groups. This was untrue. David Dees was using a GB4000. Which is a psuedo-medical device that uses current to supposedly destroy cancer cells used by alt-medicine practitioners. (David Dees claimed that it destroyed bacteria and viruses, but all the top hits are for cancer.) I found no evidence that David Dees participated in a specific religious tradition, instead he had a sort of new age highly syncretic style belief system that incorporated a number of alt-medical ideas.
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Vib Rib posted:Does the old year typically carry a scythe? Yeah, the outgoing year is almost always depicted as Father Time who traditionally caries a scythe and hourglass
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Skios posted:A.F. Branco Racial harmony is when the police are free to murder minorities in the street without repercussion.
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Guavanaut posted:TINA’S PREDICTIONS FOR 2024: Oh, falsifiable predictions! Fun! Let's keep score! Tina 1a. Biden won't win the election. 1b. Someone new (i.e. RFK Jr, does not count) and significant other than Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsome will participate in the democratic primary. 2a. Mike Johnson will not impeach President Biden. (Remember: Passing 'articles of impeachment' constitutes impeachment itself.) 2b. [Implied] Mike Johnson will not attempt to impeach President Biden. 4. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce will break up. 5a. Elon Musk will land at least one piece of hardware on Mars. 5b. Elon Musk will 'rename' Mars to Planet X. Whatever that means. Ben 1a. President Biden will order troops to engage in combat in Ukraine. 1b. If he does, Lindsay Graham will publically support this action. 1c. If he does, no broadcast news outlet will cover any protest of this action. 1d. (Applies only if Hunter is convicted of at least one crime this year,) Joe Biden will pardon Hunter Biden. 2a. Al Gore AND John Kerry will release statements that specifically demand censorship of climate denial. 3a. The James Webb telescope will discover more galaxies in a way that is scientifically relevant to the Big Bang. 3b. Niel Degrasse Tyson will claim previous knowledge of this. 3c. Bill Nye will claim previous knowledge of this. 4a. A disease will appear that requires a significant portion of the populace to return to work from home conditions. 4b. Biden will win the election. 5. At least one right wing person, worth less than 1 million dollars who claims to be Christian will have their home invaded by law enforcement agents in a story that appears in the (radical right wing, presumably) news. e: Please feel free to request additions or changes if you see any other details in the lists. DalaranJ fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jan 1, 2024 |
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That Branco has me wondering since I've surprisingly never looked into it: what is the conservative reaction to the lives of people they like being materially improved from liberal policies in ways that can't be ignored? (I've probably never observed this in action because lol at liberals directly, obviously and on any kind of wide scale helping people in America through their wonderful oops always capitalist representatives)
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My favorite political cartoons thread! To another year of angry people drawing things that piss them off.
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logger posted:Racial harmony is when the police are free to murder minorities in the street without repercussion. 
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For perspective, let's see what Ben told us 2023 would be like: quote:HAPPY ULTRA MEGA MAGA NEW YEAR This also happened a year ago: Stultus Maximus posted:In case any of you missed this like I did, Lareine posted:https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1609953506051653642?t=hi3GKjt9rW-zeJViKr4XrA&s=19 
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The Islamic Shock posted:That Branco has me wondering since I've surprisingly never looked into it: what is the conservative reaction to the lives of people they like being materially improved from liberal policies in ways that can't be ignored? Or they say it's "common sense" and just normal American prosperity and not anything a liberal did. On the rare occasions it is undeniably pinned to a single policy, they'll just say it's a conservative policy and they always were in favor of it.
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Skios posted:Tom Stiglich I presume the baby killed the old man.
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 Le Lievre:  Broelman:  1. Queen Margrethe II abdicates to be succeeded by Frederik which means Mary will become the first Australian Queen.  2. David Warner announces his retirement from One Day International cricket. Knight:  2024 brings in a new tax for Victorians who own a second home or investment property. Spooner: 
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Skios posted:Tom Stiglich The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jan 1, 2024 |
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The Islamic Shock posted:Just properly noticed this one. The artist believes the mainstream media reporting on an actually true thing that makes people feel safer is bad, because it feels like they're lying and therefore must be, because Stiglich is a scared little bitch and knows his intended audience are scared little bitches. I almost feel like he's trying to go for "2024 just started, and therefore the crime rate hasn't had a chance to happen, but the Mainstream Media is disingenuously using that information to make it seem like crime has actually decreased."
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Youremother posted:Yeah, the outgoing year is almost always depicted as Father Time who traditionally caries a scythe and hourglass And this can be traced all the way back to Greek mythology, where both the personification of time Chronos and titan & god of harvest Cronos carried a scythe or sickle. Famously Cronos used his sickle to castrate Uranus, his father, and from the foam of Uranus' genitals Aphrodite was born. Afterwards he was revealed that he would be overthrown by his children just as he did to his father, so of course he would solve the problem by eating his children right as they were born. His wife got a bit upset by this and when time came to give birth to Zeus, she went hiding in a cave and gave the baby to a goat to raise, meanwhile giving Cronos a stone wrapped in cloth which he then ate. Eventually Zeus fed Cronos an emetic, causing him to projectile vomit the rock and the rest of his children, after which Zeus castrated and banished him and the titans. So if we take Father Time to be Cronos, then he's supposed to eat that baby in top hat, unless baby new year is Zeus in which case the baby is going to castrate the old guy. And thus, this makes canonical sense: duz posted:I presume the baby killed the old man.
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the_steve posted:I almost feel like he's trying to go for Being charitable, this could be because he views violent crime only on the human level (the violent criminal goes out and chooses to do violent crime for immoral reasons) rather than the analytic level (the crime rate is something that can be looked at statistically, and policy and economic factors, which are things made up by liberals to let criminals off the hook) but really that's just using too many words to say The Islamic Shock posted:Stiglich is a scared little bitch and knows his intended audience are scared little bitches.
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