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Lemniscate Blue posted:Strength was split into Muscle and Stamina... ...Constitution was Health and Fitness
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aw frig aw dang it posted:The thing could grow as big as Pathfinder and there would still be goons calling it a heartbreaker because they decided that's what it was the first time they heard about it. They saw a youtube man was making an rpg and their headcanon is that Matt Colville has only ever played or read D&D and that's as much thinking as they're going to do about it.
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BinaryDoubts posted:and since the stats have no secondary modifiers (you don't get to add Agility to the group initiative rolls, or Might to your health... I think) I actually don't think you have the same D&D issues with Dex being a god stat etc. You can also pair any skill with any stat Secondly, Endurance is a bad stat in this setup because it's a less broadly applicable verb than agility or intuition or reason. There's also a large overlap with Might, weakening them both. If my highest stat is Reason or Agility I've got a lot more verb points than someone with maxed Endurance, but they all cost the same amount of resources per rank. So if they don't really add anything and Endurance-heavy characters need to reach more with their descriptions to get the same bang for their buck, what was the original game need they decided these were suited to address? What was their reasoning for adding ability scores to their game? Oh yeah, there was none. They literally said so, on camera. They have ability scores because <didn't even think about it> and there's six of them because <didn't even think about it> and they basically match the D&D scores because <didn't even think about it> and everything after that is the exact kind of kludgy implementation and defensive post-hoc justification that marks the most frustrating of heartbreakers. That's why "fixing D&D" leads to "almost good" games, because you're designing backwards. Instead of adding game mechanics to meet specific needs you instead are starting with existing mechanics and needing reasons to take them out. So yay, in this new game they've tweaked the numbers a little, run the words through a thesaurus, even slashed away at so many things they affected that they're nothing more than a vestigial limb twitching juuust enough to cause problems... but the idea of asking "if" or "why" instead of "how" was just a little too beyond them. That's what makes it heartbreaking. They'll probably make a lot of money. E: autocorrect on a roll tonight Splicer fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Jan 22, 2024 |
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Jan 22, 2024 05:38
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Splicer posted:I'm in physical pain here Don’t worry about there being too many stats though, dexterity, intelligence and charisma were combined into a single attribute called ‘skill’. No, I’m just joking.
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Jan 22, 2024 06:51
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Time to plan my OSR game where there's one "Good At Doing Stuff" stat and six "Avoid Dying" stats
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Jan 22, 2024 08:53
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See that's more coherent design than I usually see from the OSR, which is usually basic set of their favorite printing warmed up with a few houserules for spice.
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TheLoneAmigo posted:I wrote a PbtA Rogue Trader hack years ago, you can find it here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3c8gGVv-YzVTHQ3M0ppWFhKOEE?resourcekey=0-qUXRwBHqe5AT8-qvreQ0LQ&usp=drive_link. this is sick
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Splicer posted:Firstly, if the ability scores are so easy to slot out and do so very little why are they even there in the first place? It's because making a game to be sold, is very different than making a game to be played. To sell a game you need it to be approachable and interesting the the potential buyer. Six stats is comforting to people, they look at that and feel like they understand the game enough right off the bat that they can enjoy it. Yes a system with rules tailored from the beginning to directly prompt the type of gameplay intended will be better to play, but in the end that's not what most consumers want (even if most of them don't know it). They want something new, but not TOO new. There's a reason there are so many games out there with amazing evocative settings but terrible rules, because the rules don't sell the game, and the smart business people figured out that not only do they not sell the game, but reskinning DnD is easier AND sells better.
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I'm preparing for a one-shot of Tales from the Loop, and wondering what good first- or third-party modules are out there for it, preferably ones that have a tone closer to the TV series than to TftL's less serious influences. Anyone had a look at the modules landscape for it?
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I’m pretty sure the TV series came long after the RPG. The book is kind of intrinsically “silly” since it’s just a science kid’s version of fairies at the bottom of the garden, and many of the TV series episodes are just kind of vignettes? It might be difficult to motivate PCs.
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Jan 22, 2024 23:02
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Antivehicular posted:Time to plan my OSR game where there's one "Good At Doing Stuff" stat and six "Avoid Dying" stats Basically you can do what you try to most of the time, but your stats are "Struggles" that you roll to avoid specific categories of consequences or setbacks from your action.
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Jan 22, 2024 23:23
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JMBosch posted:Not too far off from a cool indie RPG I got to edit: Don't Die. Man, I just want to kill my adventurers. Lately I’ve been really wanting to play You Meet at a Tavern, You Die in a Dungeon. Premise is simple. You are an adventurer down on their luck. Maybe this last, impossible score will do the trick. And so you make a character and act out their last dungeon crawl.
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Jan 22, 2024 23:44
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TheLoneAmigo posted:I wrote a PbtA Rogue Trader hack years ago, you can find it here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3c8gGVv-YzVTHQ3M0ppWFhKOEE?resourcekey=0-qUXRwBHqe5AT8-qvreQ0LQ&usp=drive_link. Reading through a lot of it, absolutely dope, showing it to people, they think it's dope, too. Some stuff has me thinking to myself. "Wait, how does this work?" quote:Warning: requires some assembly.  Right. drat nice anyway!
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Jan 23, 2024 21:10
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Saw this in my email because I follow the Titan Forge Patreon. Figured it would be of interest to some Goons here. My understanding is that Titan Forge makes pretty good miniatures/sculpts. EVE: War for New Eden Discover a modern 4X strategy board game set in the EVE Online universe. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/titanforgeminis/eve-online-the-board-game?ref=9wfzn4  I wonder how it compares to Twilight Imperium, which is the only space 4x boardgame I have experience with.
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If the upper end for length is only 3 hours, how EVE could it really be?
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Helical Nightmares posted:Saw this in my email because I follow the Titan Forge Patreon. Figured it would be of interest to some Goons here. My understanding is that Titan Forge makes pretty good miniatures/sculpts. where tf are the tables + spreadsheets
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:where tf are the tables + spreadsheets Good question.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:where tf are the tables + spreadsheets Typically you'd find the table underneath the game.
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TheLoneAmigo posted:I wrote a PbtA Rogue Trader hack years ago, you can find it here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3c8gGVv-YzVTHQ3M0ppWFhKOEE?resourcekey=0-qUXRwBHqe5AT8-qvreQ0LQ&usp=drive_link. Echoing the others that this looks really good, and you should put it together into a more presentable book, I really think it will catch on, especially with the success of the game. I've wanted to play Rogue Trader but the system was always very meh. sirtommygunn posted:Typically you'd find the table underneath the game.  
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Good Luck finding it if the game is twilight imperium
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sirtommygunn posted:Typically you'd find the table underneath the game. 
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sirtommygunn posted:Typically you'd find the table underneath the game. Spreadsheets under the game if you need to protect the table.
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Hm, just received my big order of PoD books from DriveThru today. The result was that 15 books were fine and 24 were misprinted. That kind of ratio definitely makes me understand why people have been talking about Lightning Source's poor quality control lately.
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Why were you ordering 39 books at once I mean, respect, I'm just curious
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Antivehicular posted:Why were you ordering 39 books at once He couldn’t decide on a 40th, I guess.
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Antivehicular posted:Why were you ordering 39 books at once So I wouldn't have to pay shipping twice! Also, it seemed like ordering a lot of books at once would result in them using enough packaging to make sure they got to me intact, which was true in 3/4 cases.
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My favorite error from the PoD from drivethrurpg are when I was talking with an indie dude who said 2 customers had issues and reached out to him. 1 got the book with the right cover, but the internals was the Bible. Another had the book, right front and back coverm the interior was porn. No articles, just 200 pages of porn in black and white in a glossy softcover booklet. So yeah, that poo poo can get weird.
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Ravus Ursus posted:My favorite error from the PoD from drivethrurpg are when I was talking with an indie dude who said 2 customers had issues and reached out to him. I can't help but imagine the confused person who ordered POD porn and got some nerd poo poo about vancian magic and arming swords.
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Ravus Ursus posted:My favorite error from the PoD from drivethrurpg are when I was talking with an indie dude who said 2 customers had issues and reached out to him. I think I heard that story before, and the Bible one was a hosed-up copy of Werewolf: the Apocalypse, which leads to the hilarious mental image of someone somewhere opening up their newly acquired PoD Bible and being very confused about how Sunday services had seemingly never mentioned all the werewolf stuff
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Why would somebody want a POD bible? They give the drat things away.
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Bucnasti posted:Why would somebody want a POD bible? They give the drat things away. Probably file names were confused by a non-english speaker. There are lots of bible versions out there that really only have a few hundred readers.
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I want a King James translation but every time it says prostitute I want it to say harlot.
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Capfalcon posted:I can't help but imagine the confused person who ordered POD porn and got some nerd poo poo about vancian magic and arming swords. Smash cut to the Dean from Community: "This better not awaken anything in me."
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If you were to put money on it, which of these two characters, based on the art, do you think would win in a fight? This Elf Wizard (Pictured here at the library)  Or   This Barbarian (Pictured here with and without his ox skull mask) So who’d have your bet? (This is totally not a secret test to see whether Trad Games Chat favours casters or martials  )
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trapstar posted:If you were to put money on it, which of these two characters, based on the art, do you think would win in a fight? Elf lady definitely beats the Barbarian, but only in the version where he has the skull helmet, because she looks more like a plucky protagonist fighting some faceless villainous warlord and her winning makes the most narrative sense. WIthout the helmet and it's just some rough-around-the-edges Conan type? Could realistically go either way, but odds are they eventually put aside their differences and team up to fight a lich or some other mutual foe.
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Asterite34 posted:WIthout the helmet and it's just some rough-around-the-edges Conan type? Could realistically go either way, but odds are they eventually put aside their differences and team up to fight a lich or some other mutual foe. Haha "Make love, not war" (In a platonic sense) trapstar fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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What kind of wizard is the elf wizard? Are we talking D&D 3.5e/5e wizard? Not a D&D wizard? What genre of wizard? I need details on the wizard. And the barbarian.
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NachtSieger posted:What kind of wizard is the elf wizard? Are we talking D&D 3.5e/5e wizard? Not a D&D wizard? What genre of wizard? I need details on the wizard. Definitely a D&D wizard judging by the use of the spellbook. The barbarian is wielding a greataxe and doesn't have much by the way of armor as you can see.
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trapstar posted:If you were to put money on it, which of these two characters, based on the art, do you think would win in a fight? the Wizard would definitely win the fight against the Barbarian with the ox skull mask, but would lose to the one without it
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gradenko_2000 posted:the Wizard would definitely win the fight against the Barbarian with the ox skull mask, but would lose to the one without it Lol
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