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CC Sabathia "wrote" a children's book where he, CC Sabathia, saved Christmas. That has to be a line on his HoF resume.
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Inspector_666 posted:How the heck do you not think CC rules, he rules. It's extremely easy, actually 1)Does he/did he play for the team I cheer for? Y/N 2)If the answer to 1 was N, did he play for the Yankees? Y/N As you can see my vetting process is extremely thorough. Sydin posted:Congratulations you have exactly what it takes to be a real BBWAA voter! See, this one gets it
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has there ever been a city less excited to get an MLB team than Las Vegas?
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bawfuls posted:has there ever been a city less excited to get an MLB team than Las Vegas? The closest I can think of is Tampa Bay lol, this is sadder
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I hope his author name is “c c Sabathia”
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Spring Break My Heart posted:HIs 5 year run from 2007 to 2011 seems like a pretty strong "one of the best pitchers in the game" run. That is effectively my criterion and it's what I would use as my rubric if I were a BBWAA member with a HoF vote: "Was this guy one of the best players at his position for an extended period of time?" Sabathia nails that. So does Andruw Jones.
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Do you think if the ballots were double-blind and mandatory secret it would improve or degrade the process? Like if the BBWs, uh, of America knew their hot rear end takes they could write a column off of were never going to be revealed they might vote more normally.
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Popete posted:https://twitter.com/yakyucosmo/status/1749982878065389852?t=_aRgGraa5g2KNUfAVuxL1g&s=19 i mean i guess it's often still kinda cold in April and occasionally in late September but like Seiya you have Lots Of Money you don't need to be here in January
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bawfuls posted:has there ever been a city less excited to get an MLB team than Las Vegas? The stadium would have to be indoors and air conditioned. No way in hell would anyone want to play in 120-degree heat.
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Chicago Winters: Much Worse than Hiroshima
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Chicago winter or nuclear winter: You Decide
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It just occurred to me that Mauer is only 40 I feel like he has to be on the younger side of inductees (barring the ones who got in under special circumstances)
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Mauer will be the first person younger than me to be inducted into the Hall of Fame 
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wow, that's brutal. glad I'm only one Votto plus a week old and not experiencing what you're having to deal with
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Joe Mauer and I graduated high school the same year.  Continuing on Vegas, I think VGK coming in and immediately being really good probably has cemented Vegas as a hockey city. I know most of them were Raiders fans from before they moved there, but the Raiders haven't been good in over 20 years. There's no reason to be excited over the A's coming to town.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:The stadium would have to be indoors and air conditioned. No way in hell would anyone want to play in 120-degree heat. Yeah, that's the thing that boggles my mind and cooks my noodle about the A's being so hellbent on moving to Las Vegas. Not only does it automatically become, I'm pretty sure, the smallest stadium in all of MLB (I believe I read that the capacity is going to be only 33,000) and on a horrendously compact and cramped parcel of land, but they're going to be playing 81 games in the middle of the loving desert. Last I recall reading, the stadium is going to have a retractable roof, and, sure, I guess they could open it up during a late October / November run (lol A's), but it seems to me that it would be cheaper and more cost-efficient to just build it with a fixed roof.
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Timby posted:Yeah, that's the thing that boggles my mind and cooks my noodle about the A's being so hellbent on moving to Las Vegas. Not only does it automatically become, I'm pretty sure, the smallest stadium in all of MLB (I believe I read that the capacity is going to be only 33,000) and on a horrendously compact and cramped parcel of land, but they're going to be playing 81 games in the middle of the loving desert. Last I recall reading, the stadium is going to have a retractable roof, and, sure, I guess they could open it up during a late October / November run (lol A's), but it seems to me that it would be cheaper and more cost-efficient to just build it with a fixed roof. Fisher doesn't care about the future logistics of the HVAC bill, he just wants to get the A's a shiny new stadium in a superficially better spot to pump up the team valuation before he sells. For whoever buys the team, the calculus is probably that you can charge a ton for tickets and Vegas tourists will still buy, you can upcharge a bunch on luxury boxes and other poo poo for the fancy Vegas experience crowd, and you can run way more in-house gambling/betting than other MLB teams.
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I think for whoever buys the team the calculus is that owning an MLB franchise is a license to print money.
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Isn't Vegas a huge transplant city too? Like you'll sell out Dodgers and Yankees games and then have an empty hot stadium the rest of the year.
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Yes it has alot of transplants, though that can be overcome in the right circumstances as with the Golden Knights. But they were an expansion team who was immediately competitive, making the Stanley Cup finals in their first season and winning a title in their fourth. The A's... won't be that. Then there's also the complication that by far the most popular MLB team in Las Vegas at present is the Los Angeles Dodgers, who aren't exactly giving fans a lot of reasons to jump ship these days.
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The LV media market is way shittier than SF/Oakland, but it’s clear that John Fisher is mainly just moving the team out of spite
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That's what I don't understand how does this make sense financially? I guess the value of a new stadium makes it worthwhile if you want to sell the team down the line.
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As far as I can tell it’s all about the stadium
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BaseballPCHiker posted:That's what I don't understand how does this make sense financially? I guess the value of a new stadium makes it worthwhile if you want to sell the team down the line. FlamingLiberal posted:The LV media market is way shittier than SF/Oakland, but it’s clear that John Fisher is mainly just moving the team out of spite "I didn't get exactly what I wanted so I will make a worse financial decision just to show people how important and good I am and they should listen to me"
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FlamingLiberal posted:It just occurred to me that Mauer is only 40 First inductee born after 1980
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BaseballPCHiker posted:That's what I don't understand how does this make sense financially? I guess the value of a new stadium makes it worthwhile if you want to sell the team down the line. It's very similar to Dean Spanos and the Chargers saga in San Diego. He fought with the city for like 20 years trying to get public funding for a stadium, eventually he left for a shittier situation where he's a tenant to another owner and will probably always be the 4th most popular football team in Los Angeles. But pro sports monopolies are so wildly profitable it doesn't matter.
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I imagine he may do what Jeffrey Loria did not that long after getting his taxpayer funded stadium, which is to sell the team
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And whoever buys the team can move it somewhere better! I hear Oakland has a pretty big baseball scene.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:That's what I don't understand how does this make sense financially? I guess the value of a new stadium makes it worthwhile if you want to sell the team down the line. In the end it seemingly came down to petty spite. Fisher was mad about a bunch of stuff in regards to both the Howard Terminal negotiations (he wanted more public money that Oakland flat out did not have) and O.co (he wanted a slice of the planned redevelopment pie the city and county were hammering out). He then did the Vegas pivot presumably to try and get leverage against Oakland but instead they just immediately told him to gently caress off in response and burned the entire bridge despite the plans being pretty far along. Then Fisher also told Oakland to gently caress off and went all in on Vegas where the Nevada legislature could have easily squeezed the poo poo out of him now that they had all the leverage but instead they tripped over themselves to hand the team a ton of public money. Fisher handled the whole thing like absolute poo poo because he's a moron failson but managed to once again trip into a big pile of money anyway because this is a country where the rich always find a way to get richer. I mostly just feel sorry for Oakland, which is now going to see all of its major sports teams flee the city within a decade.
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I don't think Oakland burned the bridge, they just didn't want to haul a bunch of water up a mountain to put it out once Fisher lit it. They made an offer that met him more than halfway if I recall, then Vegas was probably originally a bluff, and when they didn't go for it, he was too prideful to even counter.
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I'll try to find the tweet but IIRC as soon as the A's announced the Vegas deal and were all "oh but we'll still negotiate with Oakland in good faith" the mayor's response was basically "gently caress you we're not going to be your leverage, go have fun in Vegas rear end in a top hat." e. It sounds like they tried to lobby for MLB to not pass the relocation vote and when they did anyway because they loving suck Oakland's new strategy is now to try and retain the A's name and branding, then build a new stadium anyway and lobby for an expansion team who they'd call the A's. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2023/11/17/oakland-athletics-mlb-owners-vote-relocation-las-vegas Sydin fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jan 24, 2024 |
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Sydin posted:I'll try to find the tweet but IIRC as soon as the A's announced the Vegas deal and were all "oh but we'll still negotiate with Oakland in good faith" the mayor's response was basically "gently caress you we're not going to be your leverage, go have fun in Vegas rear end in a top hat." Here's a hypothetical: which team wins more games, a theoretical 2024 expansion team (so, expansion draft happening right now-ish) or the 2024 Oakland Athletics?
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Oakland was willing to throw in around $500m for the Howard Terminal development: https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/athletics/oakland-mayors-office-says-city-was-close-to-a-deal-with-as-2894056/ I think I'm misremembering and Fisher wanted multiple times that, but it turns out that Oakland was putting up more money than Vegas actually is ($380m), so Fisher definitely just threw a tantrum over his pride rather than accepting less than he thought he "deserved."
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more falafel please posted:i mean i guess it's often still kinda cold in April and occasionally in late September but like Seiya you have Lots Of Money you don't need to be here in January Also, not for nothin', but these guys have enough money that their exposure to any kind of weather should be the fifteen seconds it takes you to walk to your car and get into the climate-controlled backseat.
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It’s going to be darkly hilarious when ten years from now the Vegas A’s are drawing nobody to their shiny new ballpark and are still running out bottom-of-the-league payrolls On the subject of young HoFers, it seems likely that Posey will be the first one younger than me to make it in The late eighties don’t look particularly good for ballplayers honestly. Andrew McCutchen is probably the best player born the same year as me. After him, you’ve got Posey, Kershaw, Goldschmidt, Freeman as players who have a shot… and then you’re into 90s births
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bravesword posted:The late eighties don’t look particularly good for ballplayers honestly. Andrew McCutchen is probably the best player born the same year as me. After him, you’ve got Posey, Kershaw, Goldschmidt, Freeman as players who have a shot… and then you’re into 90s births Kershaw will be first-ballot, and after Mauer's performance so will Posey. Freeman & Goldschmidt are all but a lock at this point. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jan 25, 2024 |
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