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Kalli posted:The 49ers are just the Cowboys with less annoying press. I'd rather see Dallas win 5 straight superbowls than SF win one more.
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a neat cape posted:I'd rather see Dallas win 5 straight superbowls than SF win one more. 
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They made me cry in 1994
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Papercut posted:This line of reasoning could be used to snuff out Cowboys hate, which I absolutely will not stand for 
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Papercut posted:This line of reasoning could be used to snuff out Cowboys hate, which I absolutely will not stand for Please see Kalli's post for the rebuttal to this. a neat cape posted:They made me cry in 1994 Fan trauma lasts forever, and is the best reason to hate a franchise. Sports at it's purest.
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I dunno hating on the Cowboys for their old wins just feels strange, they're more pathetic than a villain. It's like expecting people born after 1980 to still being mad at the Kaiser or the Emperor of Japan.
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a neat cape posted:They made me cry in 1994 We can at least bond over soul crushing Superbowl defeats
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a neat cape posted:They made me cry in 1994 the kawa theory that its bad to lose the superbowl becoming more and more supported...
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Coldforge posted:
Yep! I have zero issue with aby individual 49er player or fan. Its that goddamn helmet
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Black Sunshine posted:We can at least bond over soul crushing Superbowl defeats Is this what will unite the AFC West
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The 49ers bad touched the Broncos. Sure, it was before my time, but ancestral blood-hatred is one of the best kinds of hate.  e: Lions>>>>>>>Ravens>>>>>>>>>>49ers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chiefs only because the Ravens pain is more recent 3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 24, 2024 |
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3 DONG HORSE posted:Is this what will unite the AFC West Once the Lions destroy the Chiefs 55-17 in the Superbowl then yes, the circle will be complete
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Black Sunshine posted:Once the Lions destroy the Chiefs 55-17 in the Superbowl then yes, the circle will be complete god can you imagine
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Kalli posted:The 49ers are just the Cowboys with less annoying press. That's not true, sometimes they also win a few playoff games
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Coldforge posted:Fan trauma lasts forever, and is the best reason to hate a franchise. Sports at it's purest. I will always hate Ryan Braun.
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Black Sunshine posted:49ers: 5 Superbowl wins, 7 Superbowl appearances, 18 conference championship games Yes, but also: this is Detroit's second CCG in the Super Bowl era  Lost 10-41 to Washington in the 1991-92 NFCCG lol
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C-Euro posted:Yes, but also: this is Detroit's second CCG in the Super Bowl era And 19 CCGs for the niners, info was from before this weekend occurs!
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To be fair i get the argument . Like do I really care that Green Bay won Super Bowl one and two. I didn’t see it it doesn’t mean poo poo to me
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a neat cape posted:They made me cry in 1994 this is why i still hate the cowboys and packers and rockets (i'm not sure I cried for the NFCCGs but I definitely did over the magic getting swept in the finals) so i respect it but also i'm glad it happened
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Won't someone please think of the poor team with a long and ridiculous history of success
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Black Sunshine posted:Won't someone please think of the poor team with a long and ridiculous history of success it seems you can't stop thinking of them
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DeimosRising posted:it seems you can't stop thinking of them I'm not making stupid arguments here
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God gently caress no please stop owning me with my favorite team’s history of sustained success I can’t take it
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Black Sunshine posted:I'm not making stupid arguments here Yet you're apparently still arguing against something that was never said 
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Black Sunshine posted:We can at least bond over soul crushing Superbowl defeats Losing two Super Bowls to the two dirtiest, cheatin-rear end franchises in the league is extremely soul-crushing in fandom and on a moral level.
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Coldforge posted:I don't know how old you are, but there are actually some people in the world for whom 30 years is longer than they've been alive, and also ancient history. gently caress this. i dont need to know this.
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Coldforge posted:Yet you're apparently still arguing against something that was never said Coldforge posted:Lions won 4 NFL championships before the super bowl was a thing. It's been 30 years for the 49ers, and granted it's been 70 for the Lions, but once you hit that point where most players in the NFL are younger than the last franchise victory, how much does it matter? I mean, what am I missing here because you're using pre-merger things to play down your own teams significant accomplishments compared to your opponent in this particular matchup.
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Manoueverable posted:Losing two Super Bowls to the two dirtiest, cheatin-rear end franchises in the league is extremely soul-crushing in fandom and on a moral level. I was rooting hard for you each time friend. I'm thankful that you at least vanquished the Broncos into another plane of existence that one time though. Left Shark MVP nevar forget
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Black Sunshine posted:I mean, what am I missing here because you're using pre-merger things to play down your own teams significant accomplishments compared to your opponent in this particular matchup. No, I was trying to contextualize and clarify what you said about the 49ers winning a lot. quote:The problem with the niners is that everyone on the team is cool as poo poo but the franchise itself has won too many times already so gently caress em. If winning games is your only barometer then that's totally fair, but that's a very "hang the banners" kind of winning. If by winning you mean winning championships, then both teams have had past success that's far enough in the past to be irrelevant to a modern victory. I stated a view based on what you posted, and it's entirely possible it was irrelevant to your intention, but that wasn't clear to me. That's why I didn't try to distort what you said in order to make an argument against it, I simply said what I said about franchise victories.
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Coldforge posted:No, I was trying to contextualize and clarify what you said about the 49ers winning a lot. All victories matter post-merger because every ring must be kissed
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3 DONG HORSE posted:All victories matter post-merger because every ring must be kissed It was still the NFL, and they had hardware. 
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I get that 30 years is a long time and understand the argument to a degree but it's still within the confines of the NFL proper which is the Superbowl era. My team has been the 2nd biggest joke in the league since 2003 but I don't feel I can complain too hard because of the crazy success the team had in the '70s and early '80s. That's just my take though
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Coldforge posted:I don't know how old you are, but there are actually some people in the world for whom 30 years is longer than they've been alive, and also ancient history. Sometimes my high school students are doing the basketball immaculate grid and they'll start talking about Artis Gilmore or Fat Lever. I can't figure out how they know these people existed. They claim it's because of the 2K video games but I dunno
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Coldforge posted:It was still the NFL, and they had hardware. Only NFL dorks or unsuccessful teams/fans grasping for something to be proud of care about pre-merger anything. I get that we're NFL dorks but I'm speaking in general terms here
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Black Sunshine posted:I get that 30 years is a long time and understand the argument to a degree but it's still within the confines of the NFL proper which is the Superbowl era. This is why I agreed I was being insane, because my perspective on it as a fan is radically different than yours as a fan
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Coldforge posted:It was still the NFL, and they had hardware. "world champ" is a lie and you know it
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Coldforge posted:If winning games is your only barometer then that's totally fair, but that's a very "hang the banners" kind of winning. If by winning you mean winning championships, then both teams have had past success that's far enough in the past to be irrelevant to a modern victory. There are far more people alive now who saw the last SF Super Bowl than the last Detroit championship. There are also far more people alive now who were alive the last time SF won a title than people who weren’t. The median age of a Super Bowl viewer is almost 50. NFL viewership in general is skewed to the 35-65 range. All of this means that a majority of fans and casual viewers grew up in an era where the 49ers were historically successful and the Lions were historically awful. If you don’t expect that to color perceptions I don’t know what to tell you.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:There are far more people alive now who saw the last SF Super Bowl than the last Detroit championship. There are also far more people alive now who were alive the last time SF won a title than people who weren’t. The median age of a Super Bowl viewer is almost 50. NFL viewership in general is skewed to the 35-65 range. Of course it does. I also don't care. 3 DONG HORSE posted:"world champ" is a lie and you know it Rings must be kissed!
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i also think the 49ers suck and who do i blame? the fans for not rooting good enough
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Kalli posted:I didn't know he was hurt: They thought he tore it. It's wild to think he could play even with a strain, that poo poo is wildly painful.
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