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STONE COLD 64 posted:i would genuinely be very surprised ari didn't engineer some kind of out for this exact type of situation blowing up with what he knew about before the purchase and his background as a talent manager Yes. He’s going to have Vince killed.
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MJeff posted:The entire reason they sold to Ari was so Vince could keep his spot, I really don't think they have any recourse besides saying pretty pretty please. It depends on the laws regarding changing articles of incorporation. Could be very easy for them or it could require Vince's sign off. I hope it requires Vince's sign off and they are stuck with him. They can all go down together and he doesn't get his golden parachute buyout.
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just caught up on like 790 posts, and all i really have to say is WHAT JUST HAPPENED. really though, what the gently caress? i wonder if behind the bastards is going to do another 5 part series on vince where they don’t talk about the actual reasons why he’s a…bastard…
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I’ve said and done some pretty stupid and hurtful things to people in my 40 years on this earth, but these text messages are some insane level of just like, dehumanizing, I guess is the term I’m looking for? That’s an actual loving person you’re communicating with not some fuckbot. Unreal. Tough to read.
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Wangsucker 69 posted:I’ve said and done some pretty stupid and hurtful things to people in my 40 years on this earth, but these text messages are some insane level of just like, dehumanizing, I guess is the term I’m looking for? That’s an actual loving person you’re communicating with not some fuckbot. Unreal. Tough to read. If we had a thread for making up terrible stories about wrestlers with the intent of one-upping each other (note: this is a terrible idea do not do this) I am fairly certain none of us would have come up with anything as bad as the average things in this Vince report.
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At some point ethics and morality dissolve into vapor and the question of whether or do to something strictly boils down to whether or not you get rewarded or punished for it. Vince has not been meaningfully punished in decades. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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STONE COLD 64 posted:the CBC piece is up idk why this doesn’t feel like it’s making as big of a deal as it should be.
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ARMBAR A COP posted:idk why this doesn’t feel like it’s making as big of a deal as it should be. I think getting that much airtime on international news is a pretty big deal. The story's less than 12 hours old and the story goes through the main details (while mercifully not going into the most graphic stuff, which I think tells the story of how awful it is on its own) and also enlists Dave for background.
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ARMBAR A COP posted:idk why this doesn’t feel like it’s making as big of a deal as it should be. Because they don't want to have a giant graphic like this when kids could be watching in Canada, unlike the States.
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Wangsucker 69 posted:I’ve said and done some pretty stupid and hurtful things to people in my 40 years on this earth, but these text messages are some insane level of just like, dehumanizing, I guess is the term I’m looking for? That’s an actual loving person you’re communicating with not some fuckbot. Unreal. Tough to read. The texts read like they were written by a South Park version of Vince McMahon. Absolutely loving unhinged.
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Well now we know for certain why Vince seems to have the sense of humor of an emotionally stunted 14 year old.
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Vince’s texts are like someone fed all of Trump’s tweets to an AI and told it to write erotica
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his texts are hosed up evil pieceo f poo poo rear end in a top hat.
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AsInHowe posted:Because they don't want to have a giant graphic like this when kids could be watching in Canada, unlike the States. WWE Defecation. Restraint. Aggressive Use of Sex Toys. Together.
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ARMBAR A COP posted:idk why this doesn’t feel like it’s making as big of a deal as it should be. Unfortunately, to the wider world wrestling is still just fake gay poo poo for dumb rednecks and children, and anything having to do with it is inherently unserious and unimportant. It's one of the reasons why Vince has been able to skate through so many controversies for decades.
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Echoing what others have said, yeah it’s one thing to know Vince is a weird creepy fucker and another to see it spelled out like that. And there are almost certainly victims we don’t know about yet.
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Just had the revelation that Brock Lesnar's wife was basically blacklisted from WWE 20 years ago because Vince did to her the same thing that he was offering to let her husband to do someone else and Jesus loving Christ
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I'm not ready to say gently caress the WWE as a whole because that involves a shitload of production staff and wrestlers I really like. However, Vince, Brock, and anyone who currently has any sway or power over how the company operates needs to be replaces ASAP. There are good people who work for this loving lovely company and they don't deserve to lose their livelihoods because its primary owner is every bit a real life heel as he is "in character".
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Vince's sexual predatory actions includes making GBS threads on someone against their will and forcing them to stay in it as an act of control. I feel like this part should be more front and center when talking about the "details" because that is some serial killer adjacent behavior. Ari should talk to his brother to see if his friends can get him drone striked
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delightful posted:I'm not ready to say gently caress the WWE as a whole because that involves a shitload of production staff and wrestlers I really like. However, Vince, Brock, and anyone who currently has any sway or power over how the company operates needs to be replaces ASAP. There are good people who work for this loving lovely company and they don't deserve to lose their livelihoods because its primary owner is every bit a real life heel as he is "in character". hey gently caress you
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Maxwell Lord posted:Echoing what others have said, yeah it’s one thing to know Vince is a weird creepy fucker and another to see it spelled out like that. oh, probably in the dozens, at least
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It's so hosed Vince exposed millions of viewers to his kinks over the years.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:hey gently caress you Sure, whatever, those people who had nothing at all to do with this deserve to also suffer. Vince, Lauranitis, Brock, and anyone else who did or enabled this poo poo should rot in hell, but the average wrestler didn't do this. The average production assistant didn't do this. Joe Camera Operator didn't do this. They do not deserve to suffer for the sins of the boss. Anyone involved should suffer, this poo poo is way more heinous than any of us knew last year when the accusations were nebulous, but as much as I would like another fed to become #1, I very much doubt AEW can absorb all of the WWE talent who are completely innocent in this.
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delightful posted:Sure, whatever, those people who had nothing at all to do with this deserve to also suffer. Vince, Lauranitis, Brock, and anyone else who did or enabled this poo poo should rot in hell, but the average wrestler didn't do this. The average production assistant didn't do this. Joe Camera Operator didn't do this. They do not deserve to suffer for the sins of the boss. Big Coffin Hunter posted:hey gently caress you
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:hey gently caress you i dont think wishing that the entire top end of the company be excised so that people who had nothing to do with this dont have to work under a monster anymore is the most out there take. this is an awful situation and everyone should be upset. i dont think anyone should give this company money with the knowledge of the acts that its owners and managers have performed and worked to cover up. i think that you can feel bad that guys like sami zayn or pete dunne or other talent that has nothing to do with this are in an unenviable position of taking company money knowing where a lot of it has gone, but i think you can also recognize that you feel bad for those talents and still not contribute to any profits leadership might see be it ticket sales, merch, etc. i do think if you're aware of these actions that have occurred you should act a lot more responsibly with how you spend your money and time. STING 64 fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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Like, at best you don't understand how corporate capitalist machinery works and those people you care about are a million times more likely to lose their jobs in "budget cuts" after another record profitable year and like any of this will actually effect anyone but Vince maybe getting a golden parachute to go away while this gets settled out of court
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I wish Hawk were still alive so he and Animal could Doomsday Device Vince on a dirty strip club floor until dead.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:Like, at best you don't understand how corporate capitalist machinery works and those people you care about are a million times more likely to lose their jobs in "budget cuts" after another record profitable year and like any of this will actually effect anyone but Vince maybe getting a golden parachute to go away while this gets settled out of court I honestly don't understand your position. So WWE should just close up shop and some completely uninvolved wrestler like LA Knight or Cody should just lose their jobs. There is no other option to you than WWE must go?
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delightful posted:anyone else who did or enabled this poo poo should rot in hell, but the average wrestler didn't do this. The average production assistant didn't do this. Joe Camera Operator didn't do this. They do not deserve to suffer for the sins of the boss. What do you think "enabling" means in this context, genuine question Like I really am curious just how much, for how long, you think someone could (and did) hear stories like this and still willingly show up to work, shake his hand, bow, tweet and say nice things about him in public and how he doesn't deserve criticism, and still not be considered enabling their actions by letting them think they got away with it (and will continue to get away with it) because of reactions like that Or do you think, alternatively, they are the only people in the business' last five decades who never heard one story about him, and also that they didn't hear it as it was going on around them in their continued workplace (because this didn't stop in the 80s, this didn't stop in the 90s, this still actively was occurring as of two years ago)
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STONE COLD 64 posted:this always felt like a deliberate manipulation of his relationship with the wrestlers as a whole especially with his tactic of hiring a bad cop to do the releases/fines so when they're gone from the company they always have that perspective of "Well Vince loved me and was boys with me but that GOD drat jim ross/john laurenaitis/nick khan had it out for me! they're the reason i lost my job!!!". It's a word that's lost all meaning, but this is basically what grooming always meant. An abuser doesn't just psychologically gently caress with the person they're abusing, they gently caress with all the people around them.
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it would definitely be great if endeavor or tko or whoever managed to purge the deeply rooted rot in wwe, but if they are unable or unwilling then let the motherfucker burn
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delightful posted:I honestly don't understand your position. So WWE should just close up shop and some completely uninvolved wrestler like LA Knight or Cody should just lose their jobs. There is no other option to you than WWE must go? My position is this: gently caress off we all know WWE isn't going out of buisiness even if the most radical option of "destroy the entire management" happens.
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Ivypls posted:it would definitely be great if endeavor or tko or whoever managed to purge the deeply rooted rot in wwe, but if they are unable or unwilling then let the motherfucker burn
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