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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Oh now russia is hosed!


Blistex posted:

I've seen multiple videos of drones spotting drone jammers for artillery, and drones taking them out themselves. There have even been a few videos of guys pointing drone jamming guns at the drones and eating a grenade for their efforts. I don't know the exact answer, but the drones seem to always get through. (not that we'd see much footage of them not).

There was even an article a few days ago about how drones are used to take out supposed drone jammers. I guess all they do is paint a very clear target at their locaiton. I'll try to find the link.

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Burns
May 10, 2008

I think we will see the emergence of anti-EW drones that may be some kind of semi autonomous vehicle that will be able to id and home in on EW signals. Im willing to be DoD is already cooking something like this up in their Darpa labs.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

That Nepali dude's got a great hat.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

Sweaty IT Nerd posted:

That Nepali dude's got a great hat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhaka_topi
These can be pretty cool looking

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Toxic Mental posted:

He won't die in prison, Russia treats its prisoners extremely well, and furthermore

In the prison Navalny is in, they get two whole cups of water with their bread. Hot water at that.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

His great hat has a great name. Sweet.

TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022

Burns posted:

I think we will see the emergence of anti-EW drones that may be some kind of semi autonomous vehicle that will be able to id and home in on EW signals. Im willing to be DoD is already cooking something like this up in their Darpa labs.

that’s well past the DARPA phase. USSOCOM put out an RFI for CECMS last year
https://sam.gov/opp/dc69c459554746f8ac12f5373eb7cf25/view

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

mobby_6kl posted:

Oh now russia is hosed!

There was even an article a few days ago about how drones are used to take out supposed drone jammers. I guess all they do is paint a very clear target at their locaiton. I'll try to find the link.

Wasn't there a piece about how something like Russia has very good jammers for a set of frequencies Ukraine was using at the time of development, but Ukraine's now switched away from them due to the jammers and Russia's soldiers are stuck with them because someone's paid a contract for multiple years of production on the drat things?

zone
Dec 6, 2016

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Wasn't there a piece about how something like Russia has very good jammers for a set of frequencies Ukraine was using at the time of development, but Ukraine's now switched away from them due to the jammers and Russia's soldiers are stuck with them because someone's paid a contract for multiple years of production on the drat things?

Romanov or some other milblogger posted about it on telegram.

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Wasn't there a piece about how something like Russia has very good jammers for a set of frequencies Ukraine was using at the time of development, but Ukraine's now switched away from them due to the jammers and Russia's soldiers are stuck with them because someone's paid a contract for multiple years of production on the drat things?

I have a feeling the electronic warfare race between the west + Russia is like arms races of the past. There's got to be huge MIC sectors dedicated to this right now, and the back-and-forth sways at any given time because both sides are very technically adept.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Sweaty IT Nerd posted:

His great hat has a great name. Sweet.

You won’t believe when I tell you how that hat tastes.

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1750581530806624440?s=20

Terrible news. :negative:

Sedgr
Sep 16, 2007

Neat!

Trump sabotaging the US in aid of Russia? It's almost like Trump is some sort of traitor.

Trump is a real piece of poo poo.

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

spankmeister posted:

He's only getting 4 years after clowning on the armed forces and putin for 1,5 years, while some Russians get 8 years for a single social media post saying war bad.

Yeah, they took time off for shooting down that KLM flight.

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

Sedgr posted:

Trump sabotaging the US in aid of Russia? It's almost like Trump is some sort of traitor.

Trump is a real piece of poo poo.

Aгент оранж delivers once again.

beer_war fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Jan 26, 2024

zone
Dec 6, 2016


How I despise that worthless tangerine traitor.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Well, at least they also managed to screw over Israel with this.

But seriously - I would say this is getting out of hand, but it reached that lol not many years ago. It's just another way in which utter disfunction is now de riguer.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Sedgr posted:

Trump sabotaging the US in aid of Russia? It's almost like Trump is some sort of traitor.

Trump is a real piece of poo poo.

I doubt he is doing what he is doing with the intent of actively aiding Russia, as that is giving him too much credit. He is driven by petty revenge, plain and simple.

At this point, he's no different from every other narcissistic rear end in a top hat who feels personally wronged by the system, but he could potentially be back in a position to do some real damage to it.

Threadkiller Dog
Jun 9, 2010
I'm curious - could the budget issues be circumvented and the US keep sending material to Ukraine if for example the EU footed the bill for balance sheet purposes? Not saying its even on the table but I'm wondering if it would even be possible. The EU has money (€50B incoming now) but are lacking in arms, the US has arms...

Threadkiller Dog fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Jan 26, 2024

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

shadow puppet of a posted:

You won’t believe when I tell you how that hat tastes.

I want to believe

Tigey
Apr 6, 2015

Threadkiller Dog posted:

I'm curious - could the budget issues be circumvented and the US keep sending material to Ukraine if for example the EU footed the bill for balance sheet purposes? Not saying its even on the table but I'm wondering if thats a likely outcome. The the EU has money (€50B incoming now) but are lacking in arms, the US has arms...

The Republicans would pivot to insisting the Europeans pay double market rates.

And grovel at America's feet for the privilege.

If it wasn't this policy or compromise, it would be something else.

Its never about the specifics - but about the act of sabotage - of owning the libs and the emotions that creates in their supporters. They don't actually care about stopping aid to Ukraine or any associated policies, its about the disruption and damage they can inflict upon the their political opponents and the meat that gives them to throw to their base and rile them up.

If Biden wasn't so associated with aid to Ukraine - but instead the opposite - they would be screaming for every weapon possible to be sent.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
The EU is about as dysfunctional when it comes to Ukraine so I wouldn't bet anything on that either. We're sooo hosed.

numptyboy
Sep 6, 2004
somewhat pleasant

Tigey posted:

This has to have been part of the original plan in Feb 2022.

Its pretty clear Russia's leadership knew they would need to liquidate a large number of active resisters (plus any elites that could not be co-opted - hence all those mobile crematoriums), and then begin a sustained campaign of violence and oppression to brutalise the remaining democratic leaning Ukrainians, until they were either disillusioned and disempowered into submission, or gave up and left the country.

And creating a wave of millions of Ukrainian refugees into Europe is an absolute win-win for Putin and definitely part of his strategy. It:

1: casts out the 'undesirable population' who cannot be reconciled to Russian occupation and Russification
2: directly erodes Western sympathy and material support for Ukraine and Ukrainians, due to the populist backlash against refugees. This lightens the costs of occupation, and I'm sure Russia would love to push a 'Western betrayal' narrative to Ukrainians to try to make it easier to absorb and assimilate them.
3: leads to a surge in support for the far right, further weakening and fracturing Europe - thus creating more opportunities for Russia to extend its influence and sphere of domination.

There is no way any of this wasn't part of Putin's thinking.

Its standard practice for russia sadly from just about any period in history. If anyone wants a more modern example by Putin specifically you only have to look at the empty villages in Georgia in the areas Russia annexed.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1750821226233094480#m
UNKNOWN TECHNOLOGY BLYAT

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1750839976227410314#m

quote:

The production of drones for Ukraine may be launched in Lithuania.

The newspaper Rzeczpospolita writes about this with reference to the statement of the head of the Lithuanian Labor Party, Andryus Mazuronis.

"In Ukraine, the technology of drones is very well developed. And they want to move the factories to a safer territory, which can be somewhere in the territory of NATO, where there are completely different security guarantees, but also to be close to Ukraine," the Lithuanian politician noted.
Based Lithuanians.

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse

The_Franz posted:

I doubt he is doing what he is doing with the intent of actively aiding Russia, as that is giving him too much credit. He is driven by petty revenge, plain and simple.

At this point, he's no different from every other narcissistic rear end in a top hat who feels personally wronged by the system, but he could potentially be back in a position to do some real damage to it.

I really don't think Trump is thinking about Ukraine at all in this case; he's just pissed that the current government might actually pass legislation that addresses the immigration bugaboo that's a significant component of his campaign, and then Biden will get the credit for "fixing" it instead of him. And unfortunately even though he's only a potential presidential candidate at this stage, he can still do damage simply because there are too many cowardly Republicans actually in office who are afraid to contradict him or go against his wishes for fear of angering the moronic MAGA masses...

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME

Query from this dumb European: what power or office does Trump hold to sink this compromise? I thought he wasn’t president any more and also he’s heading straight to jail?

rowkey bilbao
Jul 24, 2023
I choose to believe the big wing drone repeater might actually be a real thing lmao.

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

Deltasquid posted:

Query from this dumb European: what power or office does Trump hold to sink this compromise? I thought he wasn’t president any more and also he’s heading straight to jail?

He is the republican god king.

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!

They are blaming Trump for them backing out of a deal, this is on them.

Edit: Also lol at Romney continuing to have no spine.

Ralepozozaxe fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Jan 26, 2024

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

Deltasquid posted:

Query from this dumb European: what power or office does Trump hold to sink this compromise? I thought he wasn’t president any more and also he’s heading straight to jail?
Dear Cult Leader.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

dennyk posted:

I really don't think Trump is thinking about Ukraine at all in this case; he's just pissed that the current government might actually pass legislation that addresses the immigration bugaboo that's a significant component of his campaign, and then Biden will get the credit for "fixing" it instead of him. And unfortunately even though he's only a potential presidential candidate at this stage, he can still do damage simply because there are too many cowardly Republicans actually in office who are afraid to contradict him or go against his wishes for fear of angering the moronic MAGA masses...

Yes my impression is also that he's mostly mad that Biden might "fix" the border instead of his big beautiful wall.

However he's also mad at Ukraine for not manufacturing evidence against Hunter and resulting in his impeachment. And also he wants to abandon NATO because the countries weren't paying him 2% of GDP.

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse

Deltasquid posted:

Query from this dumb European: what power or office does Trump hold to sink this compromise? I thought he wasn’t president any more and also he’s heading straight to jail?

The US basically has a two-party political system due to the widespread use of "first-past-the-post" election systems; people can vote for one and only one candidate and the candidate who gets the most votes wins. (In reality it's a bit more complicated because every state runs its own elections and there are a lot of complexities and caveats and a few places that use different systems, but that's more or less the gist of it...) That means that federal elections for the President and members of Congress essentially always come down to a Democrat vs. a Republican candidate, because no third party or independent candidate has any hope of getting enough votes to beat whoever's on the D or R tickets. The races for majority control of both Congressional bodies (the House of Representatives and the Senate) and the presidency are usually fairly close and tend to flip back and forth between the two parties regularly. There are other various oddities with the US system that exacerbate the problem as well (hi, Electoral College!) and lots of procedural oddities in the way the legislative branch actually functions (or doesn't function), but that's too much to get into here; the upshot is that US federal elections are always the Democrats vs. the Republicans, and whoever gets the most seats and/or the presidency basically decides what happens in that body of Congress or the executive branch of the government respectively, and if one party is able to control both bodies of Congress *and* the presidency at the same time then that party basically runs the whole country unilaterally. There's no forming a government via coalition and cooperation between multiple parties in the US, since there are effectively only the two parties, and what bipartisan cooperation between the two parties there used to be has almost entirely vanished in recent years (arguably far more so on the Republican side than the Democratic side). When control is split due to very slim majorities and/or different parties holding the House, Senate, and presidency, as is the case currently, it becomes very difficult for the government to actually get anything done without a lot of wrangling and brinksmanship, and it's really easy for a small number of Congressional representatives to gently caress everything up by refusing to cooperate.

Trump currently has no official power in the US government, but the issue is that he is likely to be the next Republican candidate for the upcoming presidential election, and a sizable portion of the Republican voter base worships the ground he walks on (in spite of, and in many cases because of, his current legal troubles) and will turn on any other Republican politician who dares disagree with him or refuses to accede to his demands (no matter how inane or idiotic). If sitting Republicans in Congress go against Trump, there's a good chance they'll be voted out in their party's primaries at the next election by that pro-Trump portion of the Republican voter base and replaced with someone else who's more willing to kiss Trump's arse. Since the single most important matter for many Congresspeople is the furtherance (or at least the preservation) of their own political careers, that means that there are quite a few Republicans in Congress who are too cowardly to go against Trump in any way. If Trump demands they blow up this immigration-reform-and-Ukraine-military-aid deal because he wants to be the one to "fix" immigration when he's in office, they'll do it, for fear that if they don't, their own careers will be hosed. And the Republican party as a whole can't all band together and just tell Trump to gently caress off, because if they do, they'll lose the votes of all those hardcore Trump fanatics, and because of how close the federal elections generally are, that would almost certainly mean they'd have no hope of winning the presidency or a majority in the House or the Senate for the foreseeable future; it would effectively be political suicide for the entire party.

rowkey bilbao
Jul 24, 2023
Concerning

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

https://twitter.com/EmbassyofRussia/status/1750821503795347782?s=20

I wonder why people have a hard time believing Russia. Must be racism.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Slava Ukraini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwJLT8yDP0

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Героям слава.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vR6J2KGQEY

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

gently caress off, Russia. Just gently caress off with that disgusting garbage and take your goddamn army out of Ukraine while you're at it.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


The Russians seem to have a pretty big gameshow wheel to spin of all those conveniently blame-able ghosts of their jingoism past when they come back haunting.

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
New recipe

https://packaged-media.redd.it/rsqu...f9827b37241#t=0

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