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Pontius Pilate posted:I’m team mcmagic on this one, team(s) are gonna regret not hiring one of the greatest coaches of all time, even with all his baggage and old age Wouldn't you want to hire a guy that you think could lead your franchise for many years instead of a guy who's just hanging around to break a record then likely retires in 2 to 3 years?
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Adun posted:Fine maybe a better framing is think about how much better you are at your job when you’re 33 vs 47 As a 46 year old, I give a lot less fucks about my job than I did 10 years ago. 
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wandler20 posted:Wouldn't you want to hire a guy that you think could lead your franchise for many years instead of a guy who's just hanging around to break a record then likely retires in 2 to 3 years? That’s understandable, really just depends on what point your franchise is at I think. Him on the panthers would’ve been silly, on the chargers looks different (tho as a chargers fan I’m v glad they got a harbaugh weirdo instead). A known bet is still different than hiring a random hotshot coordinator who has never actually coached a day in his life
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wandler20 posted:Wouldn't you want to hire a guy that you think could lead your franchise for many years instead of a guy who's just hanging around to break a record then likely retires in 2 to 3 years? It wouldn't surprise me if that was potentially part of the issue. You'd be fine with bringing in Billy 5 Aces if you were pairing him with some OC or DC who was ascending and you could keep around paying slight overs for 2-3 years with the expectation Belichick steps down and they step in for the presumptive decade following. He brings with him a rapist bad DC and you'd think an OC who while a decent OC has no business being a head coach and if he only wants to bring in those guys and his sons, you can't really try and do a succession plan with that being the idea.
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I'd feel better about betting that Bill Belichick will be a head coach in the NFL 3 years from now than I would Raheem Morris even now.
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wandler20 posted:Wouldn't you want to hire a guy that you think could lead your franchise for many years instead of a guy who's just hanging around to break a record then likely retires in 2 to 3 years?  If they deliver the goods, then who cares about 2 years vs. 20
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listen i know some folks, mcmagic, are aghast at not hiring belicheck but the dude is loving 72. i dont care how good a coach he was he's either at the cliff or about to hit it. we can do it guys, we can stop entrusting massive organizations to boomers and septuagenarians. raheem is certainly a choice for the falcons when it feels like they desperately need to unfuck themselves offensively but hey we'll see what he's learned since the last time he was HC
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CapnAndy posted:Sooner than later, some owner desperate and/or fame-hungry enough is going to let a ChatGPT model call the plays, it's only a matter of time. Might as well be now. At some point they'll figure out how to do arbitrary code execution with TASbot and surprise us with Twitch plays Seattle Seahawks.
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I’d take Bill in Seattle over Quinn and some of the other ho-hum names.
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What about Bill Belichick’s coaching career since Brady left makes anyone excited about hiring him?
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kidcoelacanth posted:what if tampa hires monken as " Baltimore would probably block it, you have to offer a candidate a promotion in order for them to be able to leave their existing contract Also Belichick just has to wait a year for the Jets to clean house, he's probably not sweating it.
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Adun posted:What about Bill Belichick’s coaching career since Brady left makes anyone excited about hiring him? There was that one game where he called pass plays like three times and ran it the rest of the time.
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Adun posted:What about Bill Belichick’s coaching career since Brady left makes anyone excited about hiring him? Did you watch a single defensive snap for the eagles this year?
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Asproigerosis posted:Did you watch a single defensive snap for the eagles this year? Only first and second downs. Why, what happened on thir-oh no
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Hiring Bill would be like penning a deal for the streaming rights to only the newest seasons of the Simpsons
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Toaster Beef posted:Hiring Bill would be like penning a deal for the streaming rights to only the newest seasons of the Simpsons lol Just spitballing - I’m not sure that Bill’s style works with a new staff, team, etc. He was the king of the castle in NE due to years and years of built of credibility through winning, but we see what happens when Belichick disciples try to instill that iron fist culture into a new team.
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Asproigerosis posted:Did you watch a single defensive snap for the eagles this year? Did you watch a single offensive snap for the Patriots this year?
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Adun posted:Did you watch a single offensive snap for the Patriots this year? Yes, I watched all the eagles snaps on offense this year.
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Bill would be perfect on the Eagles, they don't have to touch the offensive side of the ball at all
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https://x.com/josephperson/status/1750707230725341572?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA Oh yeah baby both the gm and head coach, and possibly a cap guy, all individually reporting. Gonna go great.
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Asproigerosis posted:Yes, I watched all the eagles snaps on offense this year. the eagles scored nearly twice as many points as the patriots this season. philly's offense was broken, no doubt, but it really can't be overstated how putrid the patriots were offensively this year
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Bill is a terrible GM but remember we have multiple accounts that Belichick already wanted to upgrade Mac Jones after his rookie season and Kraft said no. he's obviously terrible at scouting WRs and FA pickups but the offensive woes are a shared mess, that team wins at least 3 more games with a Jacoby Brisette tier guy under center
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indigi posted:Bill is a terrible GM but remember we have multiple accounts that Belichick already wanted to upgrade Mac Jones after his rookie season and Kraft said no. he's obviously terrible at scouting WRs and FA pickups but the offensive woes are a shared mess, that team wins at least 3 more games with a Jacoby Brisette tier guy under center He hired Matt Patricia and Joe Judge to be co-offensive coordinators after Jones’s rookie season. It’s a shared mess that he created! We’re always told the NFL is a “what have you done for me lately” league and Bill’s recent record is horrendous. Adun fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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in any case - even with Mahomes or Jackson - Patricia/Judge would be an awful decision. but to his (minimal, since he hired them in the first place) credit he moved on from them after one year. he wanted to do the same with Jones and wasn't allowed, and couldn't bring in a quality backup cause Kraft was pissy
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FizFashizzle posted:https://x.com/josephperson/status/1750707230725341572?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA what’s with this team and doling out long coaching contracts? remember when they gave matt rhule a seven year $60M deal. lol
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elime anning posted:what’s with this team and doling out long coaching contracts? remember when they gave matt rhule a seven year $60M deal. lol It's the Tepper Tax. Dude is unpleasant beyond his meddling to work for by all accounts pre- and post-Panthers purchase
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elime anning posted:what’s with this team and doling out long coaching contracts? remember when they gave matt rhule a seven year $60M deal. lol IIRC, Rhule’s contract was Tepper being the new owner on the block showing he was willing to pay and take time to build a winner or whatever bullshit they said. Now? Everyone knows Tepper is an asshat and the team is somehow worse off than before and you need to pay a hefty premium to get good staff, and there’s still a chance they all get fired when they don’t turn it around quickly enough to suit Tepper.
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yeah I remember being so bummed when the giants were close to hiring rhule and then tepper offered him a mega contract before they could even meet with him. oh well, at least they got some guy named joe judge? hopefully that works out for all parties involved
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indigi posted:in any case - even with Mahomes or Jackson - Patricia/Judge would be an awful decision. but to his (minimal, since he hired them in the first place) credit he moved on from them after one year. I believe reporting at that time pretty heavily implied Kraft was the one who made him fire Patricia and hire a Bill O'Brien type.
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FizFashizzle posted:https://x.com/josephperson/status/1750707230725341572?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA Isn't this the same thing they did with Rhule and also Reich? Long contract with a hosed up reporting structure? Poco fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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Poco posted:Isn't this the same thing they dude with Rhule and also Reich? Long contract with a hosed up reporting structure? basically. Rhule got seven years, and the reporting structure was him and Fitterer. But the real weird thing there is that Rhule basically said whatever Phil Snow, the DC, wanted him to say. This was the main point of contention when the defensive coaches (and likely Chris Tabor, special teams coach) rose up and knifed him behind his back. Obviously Wilks outlasted Rhule and righted the ship but that wasn't good enough for Tepper. Reich was 4 years. Main input into the process was him, Reich, and cap expert Suleiman who was reportedly real big on the whole "trade up for bryce" thing. The cap guy. why does he have input there is anyone's guess. That team had multiple members of the offensive staff communicating above Reich's head. Considering who they promoted to HC and who was immediatley released, you can guess that Staley and McCown probably weren't on team Bryce. Should also be pointed out Tabor was kept on from the Rhule staff at Teppers request, and was reported as knifing Reich via text...again. So now we're set up for the head coach on a six year deal and an internal hire general manager and potentially a new cap expert all individually reporting to Tepper. And we still might have Tabor lurking around, telling Tepper exactly what he wants to hear.
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FizFashizzle posted:basically. Rhule got seven years, and the reporting structure was him and Fitterer. But the real weird thing there is that Rhule basically said whatever Phil Snow, the DC, wanted him to say. This was the main point of contention when the defensive coaches (and likely Chris Tabor, special teams coach) rose up and knifed him behind his back. Obviously Wilks outlasted Rhule and righted the ship but that wasn't good enough for Tepper. This rules, I'm really looking forward to another dysfunctional 2 win season next year. At least Dave is getting paid for 6 years for theb12 or 14 games he coaches.
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https://x.com/mattschneidman/status/1750897933766082898?s=46 It’s over.
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He might be alright as a DC, nobody has prime Aaron Donald, but he still may be okay idk
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Someone announce Dan Quinn to the Seahawks! Cowboys fans are owed that much! https://x.com/JaimeEisner/status/1750900909511479788?s=20
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fsif posted:I believe reporting at that time pretty heavily implied Kraft was the one who made him fire Patricia and hire a Bill O'Brien type. Yeah I think Bill would have been fine keeping Patricia but Kraft told him to cut the crap. Also Judge got promoted to some kind of assistant head coach role after that season lol although with a focus on special teams (his actual background) instead of inexplicably being Mac’s QB coach. He did not start making less-awful nepotism hires of his own accord Docjowles fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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