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Szyznyk posted:Jim Crockett Jr. never defecated on anyone’s head. Let's not make any assumptions
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roomtone posted:lol i think wwe i actually hosed this time I'd like to say that, but (a) he's still very rich and (b) he's already evaded justice for some heinous poo poo before I'll believe that consequences will come for Vince once I've seen it actually happen, and not a second sooner e: vvv it means even less than you'd like, considering he "retired" amid claims of his horrific behavior just a few years back only to quietly reappear after some months (maybe a year, idr) SatansOnion fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Jan 27, 2024 |
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Jan 27, 2024 02:41
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Yeah, 78 year old millionaire forced into retirement isn't a huge consequence.
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Jan 27, 2024 02:46
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rally posted:I couldn’t even listen to Cornette talking about this poo poo. I normally find him entertaining but the victim blaming bullshit is way too boomer to tolerate. Not defending him, but Cornette is purely a creature of his time. He's the definition of 'You can't teach an old dog new tricks', and the odd contradiction of society moves on, but people are a lot slower. The example I think of is imagine you're doing your life stuff and then a time machine pops out and out steps your great great great great great grandchild. And we'll assume your head doesn't explode and you somehow accept this is real and happening. Now imagine this distant descendant of yours, perhaps gently (I sure hope gently), criticizes you for having a job. Not the job you have, not how well or how poorly you do your job, not that you could have a better job or your dream job, no, the criticism is, you have a job in and of itself. To them, that's bad. Even IF your descendant sat you down, and led you through all the societal change that led to this mindset, and brought up details and assessments you did not consider, and basically explained it all so it all made sense in a general sense...you would still find the mindset insane, and by extent, the society it came from. You just would not be able to get it, because you didn't go through the events. This WOULD happen, even if just to a small degree. Even if they're right, that's THEIR right, and you just can't align your sense of right with it. It's basically the same when people discuss the Civil War and slavery: 99.999 percent of people just would not understand, willingly or unwillingly, the concept of racial equality, no matter how you explained it. And Cornette came up in a time when women were either eye candy, 'rats', or even worse, as Moolah might have been. Expecting him to understand MeToo is like expecting a 19th century doctor to understand how to do advanced brain surgery. Again, not defending him. Just saying that the critical backlash should be structured a certain way. Not like I suspect Cornette would listen either or. He's an old dog and the world is how he knows it, and anything that says otherwise is wrong. He cannot be helped, just left behind. It always seemed fitting that the fate Vince deserved would be the business that he basically broke into his image, loving over everything else he could along the way, would itself force him out based on the ripple effects of his own actions. But not like this. I'll take Vince running the business for another 50 years if it meant all of this never happened and no women got hurt or degraded by this broken, monstrous gently caress (still innocent until proven guilty, but I ain't involved in the legal elements so I can say whatever I want) Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Jan 27, 2024 |
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Jan 27, 2024 02:50
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Not many men can say they resigned in disgrace from the same company twice, but there aren’t many Vince McMen.
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Jan 27, 2024 03:33
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People are acting shocked that the well known sex predator who helped cover up a murder turned out to be a sex predator
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Cornwind Evil posted:The example I think of is imagine you're doing your life stuff and then a time machine pops out and out steps your great great great great great grandchild. And we'll assume your head doesn't explode and you somehow accept this is real and happening. Now imagine this distant descendant of yours, perhaps gently (I sure hope gently), criticizes you for having a job. Not the job you have, not how well or how poorly you do your job, not that you could have a better job or your dream job, no, the criticism is, you have a job in and of itself. To them, that's bad. rethink whatever the hell your moral or ethical framework is because it's loving trash
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AlmightyBob posted:People are acting shocked that the well known sex predator who helped cover up a murder turned out to be a sex predator It's not that he's a sex predator. It's the level of depravity.
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Jan 27, 2024 04:45
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AlmightyBob posted:People are acting shocked that the well known sex predator who helped cover up a murder turned out to be a sex predator True, but there's degrees. John Lambe was a sex predator. David Parker Ray was also a sex predator. The two are not the same (the latter is much worse, in a 'getting fed into a woodchipper feet first' is worse than 'getting your legs mauled by angry dogs'). The shock is that yeah, it's not only that bad, it's worse. Edit: Beaten by Regrettable. idiotsavant posted:lamo what the hell is this insane equivocating? There were plenty of people of the time who were like "actually slavery is a loving immoral abomination" just like there have been plenty of people of the time who have said "hey treating women like that is a loving immoral abomination" but actually you, know, it's all kind of the same as me shuffling papers at a desk job to some hypothetical dipshit of the future so who's to say what's right anyways? I feel you missed the point, but that's a derail so let's just move on. Whatever my level of rightness or wrongness is, Vince is still a monster and Cornette's unsurprisingly a misogynist rear end in a top hat. Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Jan 27, 2024 |
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Edward Mass posted:Not many men can say they resigned in disgrace from the same company twice, but there aren’t many Vince McMen. Brilliant.
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Cornwind Evil posted:I feel you missed the point, but that's a derail so let's just move on. Whatever my level of rightness or wrongness is, Vince is still a monster and Cornette's unsurprisingly a misogynist rear end in a top hat. i mean, sorry if i was a little too harsh but whether you meant to or not you absolutely did the "i'm not defending him *defends him*" thing and then made a really, REALLY awkward equivocation between slavery, sexual assault, and normal day-to-day work that was, to be blunt, offensively minimizing. There were lots and lots and lots of people who thought slavery was wrong in every way; there were and are lots and lots of people who think sexual assault in the workplace is wrong in every way, and just because someone was "a product of their time" doesn't mean that obvious garbage opinions shouldn't be called out for being obvious garbage opinions.
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Jan 27, 2024 05:09
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Bad Video Games posted:Yeah, 78 year old millionaire forced into retirement isn't a huge consequence.
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Jan 27, 2024 05:28
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Now that he's destroyed I'm curious if Christy Hemme will finally feel safe enough to say something.
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Jan 27, 2024 05:32
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snoremac posted:It's not justice but if my understanding is right he is someone who doesn't know how to function away from WWE and he'll be very mad. Yeah, he's a workaholic who can't stand being on vacation. It will never be enough, but I can at least envision him like that Family Guy episode when Lois' dad went into retirement: a mumbling husk of a man withering away due to lack of purpose.
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Jan 27, 2024 07:06
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There's a web 1.0 collection of wrestling anecdotes that describes a bunch of roided up shitplay enthusiasts, wifebeaters, drunks and unpleasant headcases. Does this ring a bell?
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Jan 27, 2024 07:23
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Cornwind Evil posted:But not like this. I'll take Vince running the business for another 50 years if it meant all of this never happened and no women got hurt or degraded by this broken, monstrous gently caress (still innocent until proven guilty, but I ain't involved in the legal elements so I can say whatever I want) Read the loving room you tremendous loving idiot
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Jan 27, 2024 07:35
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I haven't been this shocked since I learned that Marilyn Manson was also a creepy sex pest. I guess that old saying is true; it's usually the ones you most suspect.
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Jan 27, 2024 08:10
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i think we can suspend the legal system for vince's sake, just nail him into a coffin and drop it into a terminator2 style slag cauldron, along with his dildos
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Jan 27, 2024 08:25
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idiotsavant posted:i mean, sorry if i was a little too harsh but whether you meant to or not you absolutely did the "i'm not defending him *defends him*" thing and then made a really, REALLY awkward equivocation between slavery, sexual assault, and normal day-to-day work that was, to be blunt, offensively minimizing. There were lots and lots and lots of people who thought slavery was wrong in every way; there were and are lots and lots of people who think sexual assault in the workplace is wrong in every way, and just because someone was "a product of their time" doesn't mean that obvious garbage opinions shouldn't be called out for being obvious garbage opinions. Also, a society in which it’s morally wrong for me to have a job is the only society that makes sense.
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starting to think this vince guy might not be a nice person
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im vince mcman and im sorry
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Hi, it's Vince with Slap Chop! I'll never apologize.
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Jan 27, 2024 15:46
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Cornwind Evil posted:still innocent until proven guilty Did you miss the part where texts from Vince to others detailing some of these horrendous acts were shown as being sent from Vince's own phone? You don't need to keep doing this high-minded, even-handed "and justice for all" act you've been doing here. Vince is guilty as poo poo, and Cornette doesn't deserve the excuse of "he's a product of his time" because this poo poo, and his reaction to said poo poo, would've been horrible in the 1960s or 1980s or whatever. And Cornette has his own sexual issues himself (such as the claims from various wrestlers who worked in places where Cornette had the book, that he would only push them if they'd let him watch them having sex with his wife), so it's no wonder he likely doesn't see why any of this is a big deal or thinks it's funny. Cornette and Vince are both awful human beings, please stop trying to rationalize/justify their actions.
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He agreed to pay her in order for her to keep quiet then didn't pay her Innocent until proven guilty isn't a defense when he's 100% going to get proven guilty
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Jan 27, 2024 16:17
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So uh Vince McMahon, huh?
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Gavok posted:Yeah, he's a workaholic who can't stand being on vacation. It will never be enough, but I can at least envision him like that Family Guy episode when Lois' dad went into retirement: a mumbling husk of a man withering away due to lack of purpose. I genuinely think if Vince stops working and fully goes into retirement, he will be dead within a few months, if not sooner. Those old dudes that live for work tend to drop once their purpose goes away. Or maybe he'll just run for president.
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Jan 27, 2024 16:32
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Slim Jims are gonna snap out of it https://www.wrestlinginc.com/1503105/slim-jim-pauses-wwe-sponsorship-deal-due-vince-mcmahon-sex-trafficking-allegations/
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Bonzo posted:Slim Jims are gonna snap out of it They were still using the voice and image of noted spousal abuser Randy Poffo in their new commercial so baby steps I guess.
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ive been thinking about this and how far do you think this goes back. like is the rock about to have to step down from his new tko role to. is hogan era poo poo about to come to light?
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The worse part about this is there's no real justice to be had here. Vince has been doing this poo poo for probably 60 years or more of his life. Some sort of restitution can be had for the victims, even post mortem, but there's no jail time or life sentence or any other punishment which can in any way atone for the half century plus of abuse. Plus, how many of his cronies are doing the same or worse and just flying under the radar? It's horrible all around.
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3 A.M. Radio posted:I genuinely think if Vince stops working and fully goes into retirement, he will be dead within a few months, if not sooner. Those old dudes that live for work tend to drop once their purpose goes away. I basically agree but Vince isn't gonna run for president, he's gonna come in as Trump's VP playing the role of loyal stooge. But as the campaign wears on Trump's gonna start making weird demands of him on camera, demeaning poo poo like fetching slippers and giving him foot massages... "THE TOES, VIRGIL!" And we're gonna see that brief flicker of rage on Vince's face, then watch as he swallows and chokes down his pride before doing the deed. Then Trump's gonna put on that happy boy smile and smarm to the camera about everybody having a price. And then, after months of toadying for Trump, election night finally comes and Trump wins. Trump gets up on stage in some huge arena in front of a roaring audience of idiots. He grins and starts dancing, pumping his hands in the air like he's jerking off two Giant Gonzalezs. But then, just as he's about to start his victory speech, BOOM! Lightning strikes and the lights go out. It's the Undertaker's music! The stage is dark, Trump is afraid, he's trying to back away, but the Undertaker is right behind him! He's right behind you Trump! Turn around! Turn around Trumpy! Oh no, I can't look! Chokeslam into the coffin! The lid is slammed shut and it's pushed off the stage into an open pit. It's Austin in a yellow construction hat driving a loader! It's over! It's over! Good gawd almighty, the president is dead and buried! NO CHANCE! That's what ya got... Pretty politicians buying souls from us are PUPPETS! Vince struts out onto the stage like a peacock, grinning that wicked grin, and the audience boo's joyfully like the loving marks they are. -The Washington Screwjob (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I remember watching those "Wrestling shoot interviews" like a decade or so ago and in some of them they describe doing some absolutely heinous poo poo to women (ring rats they'd call them) and I kept thinking back then "how the hell have they not gotten in trouble for this poo poo?" and wondering how much of that poo poo has happened that they are not willing to talk about. It's pretty clear now that it goes all the way to the top. Of course it should have been obvious since Vince has always been a horrible maniac. Here's one of those interviews I found. It's absurd how this guy says "he hated women for a long time after seeing the things they did to them" but...you were the ones doing it?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-jgYQNjyvk&t=142s
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Go away. There ain't no Mr. McMahon and there never was https://www.wwe.com/superstars/mr-mcmahon 
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MasterSitsu posted:Go away. There ain't no Mr. McMahon and there never was And they took me out of the Hall of Fame for a while just for saying the N word, brother.
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