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I like Marley’s music but it is a shame how dumb white college stoners tarnished his image in a way. Also you mentioned RLM. Yeah I can’t stand them. What a bunch of joyless grognards. Is Jack Packard still hanging out with them? He’s the only one I liked.
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RLM is really only super cynical towards the mega nerd IPs (Star Wars obv, Marvel, DC, etc), one because that's what they became famous for, and two the people super obsessed with those franchises could use a reality check. Even then they still manage to find a few positive things to say about those films. With everything else they're usually pretty positive with minor constructive criticism. That said I can see how their tone rubs some people the wrong way.
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If I want to consume hot takes from fat ugly people then me and my friends just hang out and do that.
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Jan 27, 2024 21:41
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Should add Calvin and Hobbes to the list. Goons will fight you for talking poo poo about Calvin and Hobbes. And by proxy Bill Waterson (the person) for integrity.
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Jan 27, 2024 22:32
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ive never met anyone who hates calvin and hobbes. however, while i've never seen or heard him mention it publicly, i have a sneaking suspicion that scott adams really hates calvin and hobbes.
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Nabokov was wrong about Dostoyevsky.
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RLM was mostly positive on Marvel through GotG 3, but they were always pretty down on DC and who can blame them?
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doctorfrog posted:Yeah I gotta say every comic synopsis sounds like the dumbest poo poo for pubescent boys That's what I think about video games^
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I secretly don't like Harry Potter stuff but I never say anything about it, because good for the folks who like it. It's just not for me. But through general internet osmosis I know enough. Muggle bloods.
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The rolling Stones have a lot of material, and just by virtue of that they have a lot of turds. But their catalog of good stuff is much higher than the average band. However, like almost every band ever, there is a time period where they're good and after that it was just poo poo. They're absolutely not unique in that regard. Get your ya yas out is one of the best live albums of all time. I challenge you to listen to this album loud as gently caress while driving and not at least appreciate it. Unless you're a hardcore hater, you will probably change your opinion. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL44kuYYS8ym_LoqEBpKXrUNEp9V4N36x&si=dVEN2oXfBRen1Yav The Beatles are great and if you don't like them you've only listened to top 40 radio beatles. They have a lot of really deep cuts that are super innovative and ahead of their time. Three of the greatest songwriters of all time were in the Beatles. Every one of them went on to have a solo career with lots of excellent songs. Even Ringo had a couple good songs post-beatles. They could have been complete sell outs if they wanted, but they still pushed the envelope and made really weird sounding tracks while being the biggest selling band in the world. You don't see Taylor Swift release a comedy jam record as a single. https://youtu.be/iZndVv-jl-U?si=zENht6p3TGQo_21c Cosmik Debris fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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Spinz posted:That's what I think about video games^ I don't know, some of them are quite abstract. I've spent far too much time in Civilization, and the synopsis there is "You make high-level choices for a country from the stone age forward; try to be good at that I guess". It's like trying to critique the plot of a board game.  There's absolutely a big chunk of games it does apply to, though; Call of Duty and God of War are basically interactive movies.
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Cosmik Debris posted:The Beatles
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Oldstench posted:Bro, even Lennon hated Paul's songs. Yea John sucked the most.
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Spinz posted:That's what I think about video games^ Say a video game synopsis you’ve heard
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Earwicker posted:ive never met anyone who hates calvin and hobbes. however, while i've never seen or heard him mention it publicly, i have a sneaking suspicion that scott adams really hates calvin and hobbes. It's absolutely because of the fans diluting the appeal, and I made peace with it once I learned that Calvin's Dad is Watterson down to appearance.
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That's the second time I've seen someone use "twee" to describe Calvin and Hobbes and I'm wondering if I've mistaken the meaning of that word or if people haven't read the strip more than a couple times back when it was in newspapers. It's anything but cute and sappy.
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mind the walrus posted:It's absolutely because of the fans diluting the appeal, Lol what does that even mean? Popular thing bad?
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Lol what does that even mean? Popular thing bad? I mean I can get that, fans of something like C and H can get pretty evangelical. It's one of my favorite works of art but fans are kind of like fans of weed
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i have definitely never encountered anyone being remotely "evangelical" about calvin and hobbes those silly bumper stickers with calvin pissing on a ford or chevy logo or whatever are kind of dumb, because car brand rivalry poo poo is dumb, but i dont think thats really a typical c&h fan thing
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The best part about music opinions is that if you don't like, love or at least appreciate an artist or band you "don't understand it" or "just haven't gotten it". Comes up the most with the Beatles, Grateful Dead, Clapton, etc but you get it with Phish, or noise bands or bleep bloops or acoustic guitar sad guy singers. All of them. Just discount the reality that music is one of the most subjective possible things in existence. Nah, we polled some dudes, you need to just like get it maaaaan.
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Wtf weed is fun! 
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Earwicker posted:i have definitely never encountered anyone being remotely "evangelical" about calvin and hobbes I dunno maybe it's just the types of people I was around in jr high through college, but I've met a lot of people who just would not shut up about how brilliant it is.
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Oldstench posted:Bro, even Lennon hated Paul's songs. Even Lennon hated Lennon's songs!
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Wtf weed is fun! Oh yeah, agreed, I'm a little stoned right now. But if you tell a Weed Person you don't like it, they'll just start pestering you with "well you just haven't tried the right strain bro"
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syntaxfunction posted:The best part about music opinions is that if you don't like, love or at least appreciate an artist or band you "don't understand it" or "just haven't gotten it". Comes up the most with the Beatles, Grateful Dead, Clapton, etc but you get it with Phish, or noise bands or bleep bloops or acoustic guitar sad guy singers. All of them. Just discount the reality that music is one of the most subjective possible things in existence. Nah, we polled some dudes, you need to just like get it maaaaan. i get this but at the same time, i think it's actually quite true that a lot of people are very dismissive of artists they don't understand. in music and in many other art forms. there's a lot of music that i don't particularly like and would not listen to for enjoyment, but i can understand what the artist is going for and appreciate the amount of work that went into it. which is a bit different than calling stuff "garbage" or "crap" which is how a lot of people describe the music they dislike, often without giving it much of a chance. also i know from personal experience that sometimes people dislike something initially and then start to like it when they hear it in a different context or mood. or phase of life.
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:Oh yeah, agreed, I'm a little stoned right now. But if you tell a Weed Person you don't like it, they'll just start pestering you with "well you just haven't tried the right strain bro" Cut wooks entirely from your life and you won’t encounter this anymore.
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syntaxfunction posted:The best part about music opinions is that if you don't like, love or at least appreciate an artist or band you "don't understand it" or "just haven't gotten it". Comes up the most with the Beatles, Grateful Dead, Clapton, etc but you get it with Phish, or noise bands or bleep bloops or acoustic guitar sad guy singers. All of them. Just discount the reality that music is one of the most subjective possible things in existence. Nah, we polled some dudes, you need to just like get it maaaaan. I've said this before: I quit getting into pointless arguments over music taste in middle school and learned to live with the idea that people didn't like the same things I do. I hope people who do this are finally able to grow up past middle school age and do the same.
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I think it’s true that putting some work into any form of art that may present itself as “difficult” can be incredibly rewarding but that idea does not invalidate the joy you get from anything else that doesn’t take this same commitment. That’s beyond absurd. Edit: Also, not liking art is fine. I hate non-Jamaican Ska. loving hate it. I still consider myself cool even though this opinion may be irrational. Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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Monstaland posted:I don't care much about the Rolling Stones with the exception of a couple of really excellent songs like paint it black and sympathy but recently I saw them doing a show on telly as old as they are and they actually blew me away with how well they still act, sound and play. It made me consider plowing through their discography. Deep Tracks on SiriusXM was pushing Hackney Diamonds and I also heard one of its cuts in a record shop. The mixing sounded real bad to my ears. Beatles Chat: I've probably heard half their albums, a mix of early and later. Nothing hateable, but very little of their stuff clicks for me. Yesterday, yes. Eleanor Rigby, yes. Everything not named The Fool on the Hill and Blue Jay Way on Magical Mystery Tour? No. Which is weird, considering I love lots of the Beach Boys catalog. (99% of everything after Love You is dire trash.)
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Edit: I hate non-Jamaican Ska. loving hate it. I still consider myself cool even though this opinion may be irrational. Agreeeeeed Early Jamaican ska is some of the coolest music ever made, but almost all of the rest has been a disaster Ska is truly a land of contrasts
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syntaxfunction posted:The best part about music opinions is that if you don't like, love or at least appreciate an artist or band you "don't understand it" or "just haven't gotten it". Comes up the most with the Beatles, Grateful Dead, Clapton, etc but you get it with Phish, or noise bands or bleep bloops or acoustic guitar sad guy singers. All of them. Just discount the reality that music is one of the most subjective possible things in existence. Nah, we polled some dudes, you need to just like get it maaaaan. one of the things i enjoy most about being a fan of gurgle cookie monster ridiculous meathead death metal is that it's true that people don't like it because they legitimately don't *get* it, and in a way that's almost part of the appeal for me. but i don't blame anyone for not liking it or not getting it, it's difficult to digest and you can't really teach someone how to like it nor would you really wanna try. this is why i get confused and frustrated when people try to convince me to like something like the beatles or whatever else i may not enjoy. just bc it's more popular or palatable than unga bunga blast beats doesn't mean i automatically am missing out on something bc it doesn't speak to me on a visceral level. leave me the hell alone about electric wizard gizzard lizard or whatever the gently caress it is. i don't like it.
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Snowy posted:Agreeeeeed Thank you I feel seen.
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Earwicker posted:i get this but at the same time, i think it's actually quite true that a lot of people are very dismissive of artists they don't understand. in music and in many other art forms. there's a lot of music that i don't particularly like and would not listen to for enjoyment, but i can understand what the artist is going for and appreciate the amount of work that went into it. which is a bit different than calling stuff "garbage" or "crap" which is how a lot of people describe the music they dislike, often without giving it much of a chance. Absolutely. There are so many people who are happy to just dismiss a work without even trying to engage with it as it's meant to be approached. I've seen too many people compare bands to other bands that aren't even close to the same genre or vibe and go "this sucks." Like some stuffy old suit trying to listen to metal in his hoity toity lounge going, "no no no, this is awful, it's nothing like Liszt." It's so close-minded
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Lol what does that even mean? Popular thing bad? C&H fans, as has been said, can be evangelical weirdoes who think that their corny dad sentimentalism is the best because it's their corny dad sentimentalism. Earwicker posted:i have definitely never encountered anyone being remotely "evangelical" about calvin and hobbes Earwicker posted:i get this but at the same time, i think it's actually quite true that a lot of people are very dismissive of artists they don't understand. in music and in many other art forms. there's a lot of music that i don't particularly like and would not listen to for enjoyment, but i can understand what the artist is going for and appreciate the amount of work that went into it. which is a bit different than calling stuff "garbage" or "crap" which is how a lot of people describe the music they dislike, often without giving it much of a chance.
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mind the walrus posted:It means you don't like me but don't have anything better to say. Which is cool, but like, c'mon don't play dense there's nothing to work with there. What are the personality traits that manifest over time due to only eating dino chicken nuggets?
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Worf posted:Say a video game synopsis you’ve heard Jump Bang shoot shoot Run Jump Shoot Run Shoot Run jump
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Kit Walker posted:Absolutely. There are so many people who are happy to just dismiss a work without even trying to engage with it as it's meant to be approached. I've seen too many people compare bands to other bands that aren't even close to the same genre or vibe and go "this sucks." Like some stuffy old suit trying to listen to metal in his hoity toity lounge going, "no no no, this is awful, it's nothing like Liszt." It's so close-minded The problem is that just about everybody has the been burned by bad recs before. If something doesn't click for you right away it's hard to tell without spending time getting into it whether it's good but tough to get, good but just not for you, or actually just mediocre. It's still lame to bash on stuff you haven't experienced properly but it also gets frustrating having people try to push it on you.
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the holy poopacy posted:The problem is that just about everybody has the been burned by bad recs before. If something doesn't click for you right away it's hard to tell without spending time getting into it whether it's good but tough to get, good but just not for you, or actually just mediocre. It's still lame to bash on stuff you haven't experienced properly but it also gets frustrating having people try to push it on you. Just do what everyone else does: say “oh yeah, drat, that sounds cool, I’ll check it out for sure” and then don’t ever follow through Well, at this point I have a pretty good sense of what I’m going to really enjoy, and I’ll still check out stuff my friends are into so I can talk about it with them even if I’m pretty sure I’ll find it mediocre. I can afford to burn a couple hours here and there for friends Kit Walker fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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Spinz posted:Jump And chess is just picking up pieces of wood and putting them down again. Ludicrous!
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Kit Walker posted:Absolutely. There are so many people who are happy to just dismiss a work without even trying to engage with it as it's meant to be approached. I've seen too many people compare bands to other bands that aren't even close to the same genre or vibe and go "this sucks." Like some stuffy old suit trying to listen to metal in his hoity toity lounge going, "no no no, this is awful, it's nothing like Liszt." It's so close-minded Not everybody has to like everything, and being able to anticipate the things you are not going to like is important if you value your time. Overall if something looks like it's going to be poo poo on a first glance, it's better to go along with that first impression until there is some overwhelming evidence to the contrary. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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