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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1750657705792995609

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

what i like about this is that its partly because the DSA did the whole "we're not a party" song and dance

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

Raskolnikov38 posted:

what i like about this is that its partly because the DSA did the whole "we're not a party" song and dance

you need 130,000 members to be a party in new york state, in new york dsa has slightly under 10,000

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


maybe matt could try reading the article lol

quote:

The watchdog, Michael L. Johnson of the State Board of Elections, laid out a case against D.S.A. for the Many in a previously unreported complaint last year. Now, he has asked a court in Albany to help enforce more than $300,000 in penalties, tipping the fight into public view.

quote:

“This may seem like small potatoes, but it isn’t,” said Jerry H. Goldfeder, a veteran Democratic election lawyer. Without the required authorizations, he said, voters could not get the “full picture of who is spending money and for whom.”

moreover, free croup

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

fermun posted:

you need 130,000 members to be a party in new york state, in new york dsa has slightly under 10,000

drat that's a big polycule

moreover, free croup

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Al! posted:

the psl isnt any more revolutionary than the dsa, theyre just less embarassing most of the time

:lol:

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

piss guzzler 420 posted:

i haven’t been paying attention has anyone democratically ushered socialism into power yet

yes, its called liberal democracy and the socalism is fabian

hence the title of the thread

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Al! posted:

atomwaffen?

azovite association of america

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Weka posted:

Lol their most recent statement on China is in support of the Hong Kong protests in 2019.

"China, an authoritarian regime without fair trials and rules of law."
https://www.dsausa.org/statements/dsa-supports-protests-against-extradition-bill-in-hong-kong/

If I was a leftist org I would simply express my support for the world's most successful leftist organization, particularly when I had previously attacked them with boilerplate state department talking points.

the newspaper should be called the People's Observer.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
So are there any dsa goons willing to abuse their power and put something I write in their little magazine?

Eminent DNS
May 28, 2007

I'm sure it's bad enough already, no need to add any of your post's

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Eminent DNS posted:

I'm sure it's bad enough already, no need to add any of your post's

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
It's just the word "hitler" for the max word count

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Eminent DNS posted:

I'm sure it's bad enough already, no need to add any of your post's

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Eminent DNS posted:

I'm sure it's bad enough already, no need to add any of your post's

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

Weka posted:

So are there any dsa goons willing to abuse their power and put something I write in their little magazine?

while it's a very funny idea to publish the writings of some new zealand "communist" who has never managed to find a single person willing to hang out with them, no.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

fermun posted:

while it's a very funny idea to publish the writings of some new zealand "communist" who has never managed to find a single person willing to hang out with them, no.

hello DSA goon, I have some writings you may be interested in for your magazine, Der Stürmer

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

fermun posted:

while it's a very funny idea to publish the writings of some new zealand "communist" who has never managed to find a single person willing to hang out with them, no.

weka doesnt even believe in communism lol

Weka posted:

Idgaf about a communist revolution or whatever, all I want is NZ to stop doing mass murder of foreigners.
I have answered this previously as far as electoral politics go and that's to tell green candidates you won't vote for them if they keep supporting war mongering.

I would also suggest to you that destroying capitalism is a stupid goal and that controlling capitalism is infinitely preferable.

Weka posted:

Never said this.

Capitalism being controlled by a marxist party seems to be working pretty well in China. Heck, you could even say what they are doing is orthodox Marxism. I'd love to see a plan to destroy capitalism and still have a well functioning society that doesn't look like woke Pol Pot.

Idgaf about communist revolution because it's unrealistic in the nearer term. NZ could well be allowed not to do all these colonial police actions because we are so small.

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

AnimeIsTrash posted:

weka doesnt even believe in communism lol

a perfect fit

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

wow

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


I've used my contacts and they came back to me with a great venue

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

my bony fealty posted:

hello DSA goon, I have some writings you may be interested in for your magazine, Der Stürmer

Megamissen posted:

a perfect fit

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Megamissen posted:

a perfect fit

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

weka doesnt even believe in communism lol

I don't support a communist revolution in NZ in the short or medium term because it is impractical in the context of our society and the nature of our hegemon. There is no point fighting battles like this you cannot win. As far as I can tell NZ has no significant communist organizations and those we do have are trots.

That is why for instance I support the Taliban rather than hoping for some fantasy communist revolution in Afghanistan that would be immediately destroyed just like last time.

I am basically a Maoist third worldist so I think you can do more good to bring about global communism by supporting national liberation of currently colonized countries than anything else. I do not prioritize the struggle in my country over that of others, I am an internationalist. To want the already amazing living conditions here improved before improving the lot of the worst off seems to me to be an unjustifiable position, practically and ethically.

At the end of the day the number one thing opposing the development of the communist mode of production is American foreign policy so to me opposing that is a more effective way of achieving the long term end goals I think we largely share. Ansar Allah is a more revolutionary organization than any kiwi communist organization could be in my lifetime. Those quotes, if I recall, are me saying that a political party that materially supported NZ's blockade of Yemen whilst failing to even give lip service to opposing it is my enemy, ideologically and practically, specifically directed at the NZ Greens, our closest analogue to the DSA. Neither org is likely to materially advance communism. Anglophone communists who think you can unionize your way to revolution are more of a joke than euro-communists, they have no understanding of history or worse, are willingly ignoring it because they are too scared to loose their access to treats.

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019

Didn't read that. Where's all the funny polycule stories

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022

DaysBefore posted:

Didn't read that. Where's all the funny polycule stories

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Left wing anticommunism win.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

thank GOD this poo poo is inevitable due to the daily struggles of the colonized. Otherwise I might have to do something g Lol.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

DaysBefore posted:

Didn't read that. Where's all the funny polycule stories

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

In Training posted:

thank GOD this poo poo is inevitable due to the daily struggles of the colonized. Otherwise I might have to do something g Lol.

Unlike what seems like most MTW I think there are plenty of ways you can help the colonized nations from the west. Joining a social democrat org is not one of them.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Weka posted:

I don't support a communist revolution in NZ in the short or medium term because it is impractical in the context of our society and the nature of our hegemon. There is no point fighting battles like this you cannot win. As far as I can tell NZ has no significant communist organizations and those we do have are trots.

That is why for instance I support the Taliban rather than hoping for some fantasy communist revolution in Afghanistan that would be immediately destroyed just like last time.

I am basically a Maoist third worldist so I think you can do more good to bring about global communism by supporting national liberation of currently colonized countries than anything else. I do not prioritize the struggle in my country over that of others, I am an internationalist. To want the already amazing living conditions here improved before improving the lot of the worst off seems to me to be an unjustifiable position, practically and ethically.

At the end of the day the number one thing opposing the development of the communist mode of production is American foreign policy so to me opposing that is a more effective way of achieving the long term end goals I think we largely share. Ansar Allah is a more revolutionary organization than any kiwi communist organization could be in my lifetime. Those quotes, if I recall, are me saying that a political party that materially supported NZ's blockade of Yemen whilst failing to even give lip service to opposing it is my enemy, ideologically and practically, specifically directed at the NZ Greens, our closest analogue to the DSA. Neither org is likely to materially advance communism. Anglophone communists who think you can unionize your way to revolution are more of a joke than euro-communists, they have no understanding of history or worse, are willingly ignoring it because they are too scared to loose their access to treats.

this is completely incoherent man, how are you goign to advocate for people in the 3rd world when you cant even advocate for the workers in your own country. there is even a population within your country that constantly been placed under the thumb of your government lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_people

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

this is completely incoherent man, how are you goign to advocate for people in the 3rd world when you cant even advocate for the workers in your own country. there is even a population within your country that constantly been placed under the thumb of your government lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_people

Ah, the mystical normal people

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

fermun posted:

while it's a very funny idea to publish the writings of some new zealand "communist" who has never managed to find a single person willing to hang out with them, no.

Oh yeah sorry I am late to this but I confused you for the PSL goon who deserves some respect. You pay dues to an organization that mostly functions as a polycule arranger so this insult seems like projection to me. I shouldn't discount the fine work you fellows do sheepdogging for fascists though (:

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Weka posted:

I am basically a Maoist third worldist

:dudsmile:

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Ohtori Akio
Jul 15, 2022

piss guzzler 420
Dec 25, 2022

Weka posted:

I am basically a Maoist third worldist

we are so freaking back

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

DaysBefore posted:

Didn't read that. Where's all the funny polycule stories

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001
lmfao

https://twitter.com/dsa_losangeles/status/1752801844202819754

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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://twitter.com/DSA_union/status/1766545490806477241

W- why would you use this as your slogan??

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