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What I'm curious about is if it's going to be more frontloaded than Spy. It seems plausible for things to play out that way, since SEED is appealing to a more hardcore audience while Spy X Family is a whole family thing, but SEED more than doubling Hathaway's already impressive- opening day suggests that it's tapping into a pretty wide enthusiasm. Of course, at this point, the question is mostly academic. FREEDOM's great opening and word of mouth means that its legacy is secure, getting it (at minimum) the highest Gundam box office since the original trilogy, and quite possibly the highest box office Gundam's ever had. I'd read plenty about how big SEED was at its height, but it's one thing to just hear about it in retrospect. Another to see it as it's happening. (It also seems like the film goes back to flawed, limited, but driven Kira instead of invincible superman Kira, so that's nice.)
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Seemlar posted:Pretty funny reading "haha sounds so bad, can't wait to watch it ironically!" posts Japanese and western audiences have been divided on SEED's main plot for a long time now. None of this is new.
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chiasaur11 posted:What I'm curious about is if it's going to be more frontloaded than Spy. It seems plausible for things to play out that way, since SEED is appealing to a more hardcore audience while Spy X Family is a whole family thing, but SEED more than doubling Hathaway's already impressive- opening day suggests that it's tapping into a pretty wide enthusiasm. The plot boiling down to "Kira feels worthless and like the only thing he is good at is fighting, but fighting doesn't actually seem to be solving the problem and he feels like being an extremely efficient killing machine means he has nothing to offer to Lacus as a person, while also feeling like he needs her support" is honestly more than I expected them to go into his character, so that's good for him.
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Seed popularity in Japan felt like it faded after Destiny and it felt like it wasn't at the level of the popular Gundam's but the time between Destiny and Freedom and the movie being a bit closer to Seed's strengths is probably helping here
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Seed popularity in Japan felt like it faded after Destiny and it felt like it wasn't at the level of the popular Gundam's but the time between Destiny and Freedom and the movie being a bit closer to Seed's strengths is probably helping here SEED's popularity faded in that there wasn't new SEED material for a long time, but the characters (or at least Kira/Lacus/Athrun) remained absurdly popular for a long time past their prime. You could see this kind of stuff in video games where Amuro and Kira were always the two put on 'equal billing' with whoever the newest entry in the franchise was.
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Warmachine posted:Japanese and western audiences have been divided on SEED's main plot for a long time now. None of this is new. Destiny ultimately sold more than the original SEED despite its bad reputation in the West, so the news that SEED Freedom was being well received is unsurprising. Even after reading the spoilers and their rather insane bits, the movie is probably still better than Destiny in purely technical terms. I wouldn't have expected much more than that. Let SEED fans have their day, that is my stance. wielder fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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Let SEED have its day if it means financial success that gets other Gundam series made. But I'll still laugh at it because woof the movie sounds like a hot mess.
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I'm not super excited about it but I have to admit that going over forums looking for info and seeing the just sort of raw joy and happiness from SEED fans makes it hard for me to not be happy for them. I don't get it, but it is apparently the movie people really wanted (and this is on a lot of English-speaking forums, let alone Japan) and so it's hard to get upset about that. Like people who like Kira and Lacus or Athrun and Cagalli or Shin and Lunamaria just seem immensely pleased so  I admit Lunamaria getting to complete her plot arc of "actually becomes very accurate" does make me smile.
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If anything, Bandai has to be pretty thrilled that they had Witch from Mercury and now Seed Freedom be back-to-back hits in a lot of ways, it’s a drat good sign for Gundam overall
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Jan 28, 2024 03:00
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Can't wait for Requiem to be a hit too despite everything
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Seed to normies is like how the internet reacted to Avatar 2 and ask "who is for this" before normies payed with their wallet
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SEED was my entry to Gundam so ill check it out but years later its all very mediocre vs original UC
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Tae posted:Seed to normies is like how the internet reacted to Avatar 2 and ask "who is for this" before normies payed with their wallet Nah. SEED has a big pop culture footprint, even when people hate it. Avatar is more of a ghost that pops out of nowhere, makes billions at the box office, and then it vanishes without the merch selling. Different profiles.
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Seed has better writing than anything Cameron ever wrote
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Gaius Marius posted:Seed has better writing than anything Cameron ever wrote He still wrote Aliens and T2, so this is false
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MechaX posted:He still wrote Aliens and T2, so this is false He was only one of the writers on T2, so it's entirely possible everything he wrote was garbage and got tentpoled by the other guy.
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Alright shut it down we are done here.
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Gaius Marius posted:Seed has better writing than anything Cameron ever wrote Anime fans will say anything, huh?
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James Cameron's Abyss was good enough to be mentioned in Bravern so it's good, sans trying to drown Ed Harris.
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i can't believe Gaius Marius posted a dismissive opinion that is moderately incendiary
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He wrote (along with others) Strange Days!
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You know, something I'll say for FREEDOM? It resolves an issue I've had with SEED from near the start. SEED has always had a weird conflict between horny, horny visuals and chaste relationships, especially Kira and Lacus. This film, meanwhile, is just as horny, if not hornier, but it also puts it in context that makes sense. That is, there's lots of horny imagery around characters because those characters want to have sex. It all fits together into a coherent whole, rather than forming an awkward contrast.
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ImpAtom posted:One gimmick the villains have that I do like is just basically a turret that launches thousands of small rounded spears designed explicitly to overwhelm and overload anything that has phase shift armor, even nuclear powered units because it pushes the energy drain past the point where the reactor can keep up. Not necessarily super logical but it's nice to see a specific anti-PS weapon. I see that Ramius has followed in Unicorn Brught's footsteps as the genre aware captain.
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seed leaned into being garish and ugly and stupid in a way that only people in the early 2000s could fully understand
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Arc Hammer posted:https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/1752168585085239696?t=XwSzR9OhkkisjN0kLBr2ww&s=19 Which demon is that?
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Darth Walrus posted:Which demon is that? That's the Schwarzette from WfM, except it's Neon Purple according to the tweet.
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Huh, that pic makes it look very much like the IBO Gundam Frames.
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I mean it does have some demonic elements with the legs and hoofs looking like a goat's ala Baphomet.
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I mean, it's an Ippei Gyoubu design.
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God I forgot how much I like the Mack Knife.
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Unrelated but this translated description of the Proud Defender makes me laugh at how over the top it getsquote:MDE262S PROUD DEFENDER (Mighty Strike Freedom Gundam backpack)
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I wish it was the one that looked like an X-Wing in flight mode. Spewing Force Lightning would work better with it.
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Quick question: Which of this is NOT a Gundam.     
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ImpAtom posted:Quick question: Look, the poor Huckebein tries, all right? No need to get hurtful here.
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I remember when SRW 2nd OG (I think) made a big deal about blowing up every Huckebein and some people on old forums thought “looks like sunrise is finally suing banpresto!” (I do not believe this was accurate at all) But then someone gets a Super Huckebein-like mech, everything is under the Bandai umbrella now, and Huckebeins are just back and no one explains why it looks so much like a gundam even in game lmfao It was a very interesting to watch the story of this legally-distinct gundam over the years
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When Katoki draws something it always looks like a Gundam.
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Playing SRW-T I did wish that those knock off gundams showed up for more than a random mission.
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The correct answer: You fools. The correct answer is that it is a Gundam if I say it is a Gundam. 
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