2023 NFL Coaching Carousel: The Night of Short Drives

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AndrewP: Apr 21, 2010

That�s a good fit, hope it doesn�t happen

# ? Jan 28, 2024 20:19

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# ? May 27, 2024 16:22

Woozie66: Sep 8, 2009; I'll wait for the next era

Ditto

# ? Jan 28, 2024 20:24

Pablo Bluth: Sep 7, 2007; I've made a huge mistake.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1751688468906885381

# ? Jan 28, 2024 20:28

A Sneaker Broker: Feb 14, 2020; Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1751688468906885381?s=46

# ? Jan 28, 2024 20:28

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/28/bill-belichick-has-warned-coaches-about-new-york-giants-organization/

quote:

Bill Belichick is a name that simply won�t go away when it comes to the New York Giants. At least not since he and the New England Patriots parted ways.

Fans have clamored for Belichick to return to the Giants, either as their head coach, a job currently held by Brian Daboll, or as their defensive coordinator.

Neither of those things is going to happen � not now and likely not in the future.

During the latest Breaking Big Blue podcast, ESPN�s Jordan Raanan revealed that Belichick�s view of the Giants has shifted over the years.

�I�ve heard this multiple times over the past five, six, seven years. And it�s a dirty little secret, maybe, about Bill Belichick and the Giants,� Raanan said. �I don�t think he looks at the Giants the same way he used to look at the Giants when he was here.�

Raanan notes that Belichick was a Wellington Mara guy, not a John Mara and Steve Tisch guy. And while he still reflects positively on his time with the Giants, Belichick has become wary of the current ownership and front office structure.

Specifically, Raanan notes, is the presence of John Mara�s nephew, Tim McDonnell, the team�s director of player personnel.

�Over the years, Bill Belichick has given advice to people . . . that he didn�t really like the setup of the Giants organization. Like, he didn�t think the Giants (were) this great organization,� Raanan said. �Bill Belichick, like everybody else watching from the outside (and) watching the way it�s set up, doesn�t think � at least this is what I�ve heard � it�s this great organization in its current iteration.

�That doesn�t mean Bill Belichick doesn�t love the Giants and appreciate everything they�ve done for him and have great memories.�

Because of the current power structure, Raanan doesn�t believe Belichick would want to come to the Giants at this point in his career. Even if he became desperate and the Giants came calling, it�s likely Belichick would request a major dynamic shift within the building at 1925 Giants Drive.

�He�s directly told that to people � be careful about the organization and their setup and the way it�s run. That�s happened,� Raanan said. �So, yes, Bill Belichick loves the New York Football Giants, the organization, and the memories he has from the past. It doesn�t mean he�s bats� crazy in love with the Giants organization right now.�

And there�s no reason to believe the Giants organization covets Belichick, either. After all, it was his accidental text message to Brian Flores that currently has John Mara and Co. in court.

# ? Jan 28, 2024 20:40

Vertical Lime: Dec 11, 2004

nice news dump

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1751704737202770197?s=46

# ? Jan 28, 2024 21:33

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

Vertical Lime posted:

nice news dump

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1751704737202770197?s=46

Schefter's habitual misuse of possessive apostrophes irritates me on a level that I can't quite articulate.

# ? Jan 28, 2024 21:43

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1751704671033397611

# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:05

seiferguy: Jun 9, 2005; FLAWED
INTUITION; Toilet Rascal

Bill Belichick as a TV guy sounds like a charisma black hole, lmao

# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:10

The337th: Mar 30, 2011

seiferguy posted:

Bill Belichick as a TV guy sounds like a charisma black hole, lmao

Toss Gronk out and transition Bellichick into his place with zero changes to the wacky guy role

# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:34

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Timby posted:

Schefter's habitual misuse of possessive apostrophes irritates me on a level that I can't quite articulate.

Fairly certain he follows the AP style guide.

# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:43

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006

Timby posted:

Schefter's habitual misuse of possessive apostrophes irritates me on a level that I can't quite articulate.

How do you think the apostrophe is supposed to be used there? They're the Atlanta Falcons, not the Atlanta Falcon.

edit: vvv that's a take.

A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jan 28, 2024

# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:46

xbilkis: Apr 11, 2005; god qb
me
jay hova

There just shouldn't be an apostrophe there

# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:47

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

A.o.D. posted:

How do you think the apostrophe is supposed to be used there? They're the Atlanta Falcons, not the Atlanta Falcon.

edit: vvv that's a take.

Is the gumbo poisoned down there or something?

# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:56

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

Hot Diggity! posted:

Fairly certain he follows the AP style guide.

As a 20-year veteran of the AP Style Guide, I can assure you it is incorrect usage. The possessive does not apply in the way that Schefter uses it.

Timby fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jan 28, 2024

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:02

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Head coach of the Falcons.

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:15

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Hot Diggity! posted:

Fairly certain he follows the AP style guide.

some style guides have changed to allow the apostrophe before the s on possessive plurals but they're still the minority and I doubt AP has changed

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:16

Nervous: Jan 25, 2005; Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

Wrong thread

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:18

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

seiferguy posted:

Bill Belichick as a TV guy sounds like a charisma black hole, lmao

He actually seems pretty fun and charming when he's just breaking down tape, and he's a massive history nerd. If he wants to do TV I think he could be excellent at it.

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:21

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

The issue isn't whether it's supposed to be "former Falcons' head coach" or "former Falcons's head coach". Both are wrong. Jesus Christ.

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:21

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

should have been a touchdown. still might be

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:22

Bird in a Blender: Nov 17, 2005; It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

indigi posted:

some style guides have changed to allow the apostrophe before the s on possessive plurals but they're still the minority and I doubt AP has changed

Sure but the apostrophe isn�t needed at all right?

I guess I could see how it could be used, but it feels odd to me to use it.

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:22

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Oops

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:22

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Bird in a Blender posted:

Sure but the apostrophe isn�t needed at all right?

I guess I could see how it could be used, but it feels odd to me to use it.

well it's the coach who now belongs to the Falcons. it could go either way depending on if you view Falcons as a noun or adjective

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:25

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Most NFL teams are nouns, but the Falcons play like they're adjectives.

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:26

Coldforge: Oct 29, 2002; I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Schefter's tweet about the Harbaugh hire:

quote:

New Los' Angeles' Chargers' Head Coach Jim Harbaugh

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:28

Woozie66: Sep 8, 2009; I'll wait for the next era

SKULL.GIF posted:

The issue isn't whether it's supposed to be "former Falcons' head coach" or "former Falcons's head coach". Both are wrong. Jesus Christ.

Unfortunately, based on style guides, a possessive apostrophe is fine there. It IS optional though.

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:30

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006

SKULL.GIF posted:

Is the gumbo poisoned down there or something?

I learned to write professionally according to an old style guide. It's just my default. :shrug:

I don't claim to be good at it.

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:38

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

Woozie66 posted:

Unfortunately, based on style guides, a possessive apostrophe is fine there. It IS optional though.

So, my degrees are in journalism and public relations, and I've done copywriting by the AP Stylebook since 2003.

Proper usages are:

"The Falcons' former head coach, Arthur Smith..."

OR:

"Falcons former head coach Arthur Smith..."

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:46

Lieutenant Centaur: Oct 17, 2010; A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon

Edit: wrong thread

# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:49

Kirios: Jan 26, 2010

I expect Mike Macdonald to be the coach of the Seahawks within a week.

# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:15

Nervous: Jan 25, 2005; Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

Kirios posted:

I expect Mike Macdonald to be the coach of the Seahawks within a week.

It's going to rule :hawksin:

# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:17

Pablo Bluth: Sep 7, 2007; I've made a huge mistake.

Psycho Ken is going to Cleveland
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1751743547345076331
https://twitter.com/AlanSpringer/status/1574132330712612864/video/1

# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:23

seiferguy: Jun 9, 2005; FLAWED
INTUITION; Toilet Rascal

https://twitter.com/MikeDugar/status/1751746840155005105?t=O8J8K62NJdtUTrWVUmgKog&s=19

Thank u for losing, Ravens

# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:33

Woozie66: Sep 8, 2009; I'll wait for the next era

Pablo Bluth posted:

Psycho Ken is going to Cleveland
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1751743547345076331
https://twitter.com/AlanSpringer/status/1574132330712612864/video/1

Seems like a fine hire? Our offense needed an injection of creativity. His weakness was always the run game and Stefanski should be able to cover that.

# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:38

shirts and skins: Jun 25, 2007; Good morning!

Mike MacDonald should have a first class ticket on Alaska Airlines Flight 379 tomorrow

# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:47

Woozie66: Sep 8, 2009; I'll wait for the next era

Did Dorsey interview anywhere else?

# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:53

Pablo Bluth: Sep 7, 2007; I've made a huge mistake.

Woozie66 posted:

Seems like a fine hire? Our offense needed an injection of creativity. His weakness was always the run game and Stefanski should be able to cover that.

His play-calling could be a bit iffy; a bit too much long-ball, moving away from the run game even when it was working, doing something other than getting Allen to bulldoze on a 4th and short. In a wider context, I'm not sure his fiery character was what you need with Josh Allen, who will probably also be best with a HC who can keep Sugar Rush Allen away. It all started well enough, with that fun demolition of the Rams on their home-coming party, but once it went a bit wobbly mid mid 2022, he never managed to get the whole system truly working in sync again.

# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:55

Woozie66: Sep 8, 2009; I'll wait for the next era

Pablo Bluth posted:

His play-calling could be a bit iffy; a bit too much long-ball, moving away from the run game even when it was working, doing something other than getting Allen to bulldoze on a 4th and short. In a wider context, I'm not sure his fiery character was what you need with Josh Allen, who will probably also be best with a HC who can keep Sugar Rush Allen away. It all started well enough, with that fun demolition of the Rams on their home-coming party, but once it went a bit wobbly mid mid 2022, he never managed to get the whole system truly working in sync again.

Thanks for the breakdown. I wonder if he'll even call the plays.

# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:58

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# ? May 27, 2024 16:22

Asproigerosis: Mar 13, 2013; insufferable

49ers should really be looking long and hard at moving on from shannahan

# ? Jan 29, 2024 01:57

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