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Clerical Terrors posted:He couldn't even be bothered to write the title of the song? Or is this cartoonist brain at work and he simply defaulted to labeling the music? The title isn’t the part that makes him mad. It’s the black part.
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The white guy drawing a black guy disapproving of black people shenanigans really is their favorite trick, huh. The ol' reliable of racism.
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Doomykins posted:The white guy drawing a black guy disapproving of black people shenanigans really is their favorite trick, huh. The ol' reliable of racism. Every dump there's at least one of these lol
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I had to go back and check, Day by Day has been banned since the beginning of 2016. Nearly a decade by this point. Muir is still the worst, and possibly drawing child porn, but it's weird to include him sense he isn't posted here, and posting him may be a banable offence. Doomykins posted:The white guy drawing a black guy disapproving of black people shenanigans really is their favorite trick, huh. The ol' reliable of racism. Bonus points when they make their black mouth piece an 8 year old girl dressed like ruby bridges.
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Discendo Vox posted:Lift Every Voice and Sing. NFL has sometimes played it in addition to (not instead of) the national anthem during pregame ceremonies at major event, basically as deflective pandering. 1. Corporation makes business move toward DEI to get more money 2. Conservatives love corporations so much that apparently it's the one time they can't figure out when someone really is being disingenuous for money so they take it at face value 3. Corporation learns whether or not it's a slow news cycle by how much poo poo they eat for it
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I dont know posted:I had to go back and check, Day by Day has been banned since the beginning of 2016. Nearly a decade by this point. Muir is still the worst, and possibly drawing child porn, but it's weird to include him sense he isn't posted here, and posting him may be a banable offence. I'msorrywhatthefuck? Can we just... not include someone drawing CP in the bracket, especially if they're already barred fron being posted as-is?
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The Islamic Shock posted:It's so weird how that works. I don't think whether or not the company is being disingenuous for money is something they care about, because as they see it none of it is ever genuine. If this were some kind of of grass-roots community driven effort they'd still grumble about how it's being "forced on us" by some ill-defined enemy whose goals are to make them miserable out of pure malice. It has to be a culture "war", and they have to be "fighting" it, because otherwise they'd have to face the fact that they're wrong and are just being petulant losers.
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I checked to see if it was still updated, and it had the standard Token Liberal tits out. Obviously I did not have a strong urge to dig deeper. We don’t need to include Muir if he’s going well off the deep end. As for left-leaning cartoonists, we need some soft round 1 targets to keep things interesting. Being a Worst contest, I would only include cartoonists that are suffering from liberal brain poisoning or being obnoxious in their cheerleading for Democrat skeletons. Horsey is a good example of this.
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Clerical Terrors posted:I don't think whether or not the company is being disingenuous for money is something they care about, because as they see it none of it is ever genuine. If this were some kind of of grass-roots community driven effort they'd still grumble about how it's being "forced on us" by some ill-defined enemy whose goals are to make them miserable out of pure malice. If you tell a conservative you want better things for everyone, they'll just decline to believe you. Explain to them how and they get enraged because thinking about a solution that works, working for any amount of time coming from someone they hate is deeply uncomfortable. Especially if it helps those people as well I've found the better you get at refuting their bullshit, the more frantically they engage in whataboutism before finding an excuse to put you in a box labeled none of your opinions matter because arbitrary thing X. We do that too but it's more like X is a domain with a loving massive set of variables that mostly involve anger and fear The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jan 29, 2024 |
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Pants Donkey posted:As for left-leaning cartoonists, we need some soft round 1 targets to keep things interesting. Being a Worst contest, I would only include cartoonists that are suffering from liberal brain poisoning or being obnoxious in their cheerleading for Democrat skeletons. Horsey is a good example of this. Why just liberals? Someone like Latuff would be a good fit, although he probably wouldn't get very far since his art is decent. e: also Rall, even though he doesn't really have a coherent ideology beyond 'contrarian' e2: they're both already in the original list 
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Clerical Terrors posted:If we post Stonetoss to make fun of him or post edits of his cartoons like on r/antifastonetoss that could be fun. I've toyed with the idea of posting Stonetoss every once in a while. Thing is, I think daily or even weekly like Sinfest might be too much. Maybe some kind of monthly or quarterly checkin. The thread just really doesn't like Stonetoss and, I think, would react pretty badly to it being posted daily. (And, honestly, I think looking at it every day would get to me, too.) Mainly I believe this is because of how viscerally upsetting the material is. Even the worst of our current batch of cartoonists is not regularly depicting the suicide of trans people, for instance (something that is what passes for a running gag in Stonetoss). There are very few dogwhistles in that comic; everything is well within the range of human hearing.
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Yeah, while Stonetoss might be occasionally worth looking at just as an alt-right temperature gauge, I definitely wouldn't want to see it regularly posted. Like as lovely as Branco and the rest are, their main goal isn't to directly inspire mass shootings. It's why we don't really talk about people like Nick Fuentes over in the right wing media thread even though he qualifies, there's no real entertainment value or insight you can derive from someone who just nakedly wants to inspire hate crimes.
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Alhazred posted:It is though. He could make cartoon about how pilots that are hired because of positive discrimination are in fact qualified. Not that they make others look bad. It's not saying that they are not qualified so I don't know what you are talking about.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Yeah, while Stonetoss might be occasionally worth looking at just as an alt-right temperature gauge, I definitely wouldn't want to see it regularly posted. Like as lovely as Branco and the rest are, their main goal isn't to directly inspire mass shootings. It's why we don't really talk about people like Nick Fuentes over in the right wing media thread even though he qualifies, there's no real entertainment value or insight you can derive from someone who just nakedly wants to inspire hate crimes. Sinfest still gets posted in here even though it already has inspired at least one e: one person was shot and killed, not several, but a hate crime nonetheless. ZZT the Fifth fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jan 29, 2024 |
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ZZT the Fifth posted:Sinfest still gets posted in here even though it already has inspired at least one mass shooting. It has what? Pants Donkey posted:I checked to see if it was still updated, and it had the standard Token Liberal tits out. Obviously I did not have a strong urge to dig deeper. We don’t need to include Muir if he’s going well off the deep end. Crosspost from the c-spam politoon thread. Muir has displayed an incredible ability to find new lows. loquacius posted:The main characters' daughters "came of age" meaning they hit puberty and immediately sprouted giant anime tits and began being treated like any other female character in the comic. Don't ask what age they came of age at. I dont know fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jan 29, 2024 |
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I dont know posted:It has what? Sorry, a single-victim hate crime shooting, not a mass shooting. https://abcnews.go.com/US/california-store-owner-shot-dead-dispute-displaying-pride/story?id=102408818 https://imgur.com/sEOxqNu
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Skios posted:A.F. Branco "i...i hadn't thought of it that way!!! and who's this? 'jesus christ' you say?? and he died for MY sins???" these people are so ignorant and can't conceive that other people might not be, it really is a lack of empathy all the way to the foundation of right wingers
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ZZT the Fifth posted:Sinfest still gets posted in here even though it already has inspired at least one Tatsuya Ishida isn't a firebrand, he's an insane old man putting all the things in the world that scare him into his comics. He's the guy with the sandwich board rambling about the end being nigh. He isn't actively trying to say that it'd be epic based if someone were to shoot up a few [your choice of slur here]s.
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InsertPotPun posted:"did you know: abortions end a pregnancy?" It is kind of amusing seeing "What is a woman?" portrayed as a cutting inquiry that rocks liberals to their very core and forces them to confront their sinful ways, and not as just a right-wing shibboleth worthy of an eye-roll and jerkoff hand motion. It's like creationists teaching their kids to ask "were you there?" to their science teacher once they start their units on evolution, as if that's going to change anything. ZZT the Fifth posted:Sinfest still gets posted in here even though it already has inspired at least one I still think that Sinfest has value being here because it is chronicling the author's downward spiral into right-wing hatred, and there's stuff to discuss about that. Stonetoss is just laundering Holocaust denial talking points by way of Twitter gotcha comics, so there isn't really anything interesting about it. Like if Sinfest ever does reach the point where it's Stonetoss levels of "haha wouldn't it be funny if black people went back to Africa (wow that'd be based actually)" then sure, get it out of here, but I don't think it's there yet.
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Thread lore correction: Day By Day was banned because the main character raped his wife in order to fix an opinion that wasn't conservative enough (she was uncomfortable with being too cruel to her slutty liberal sister). It was not banned for child porn because to the best of my knowledge* Muir has not drawn actual child porn. He remains technically within the law by covering the naked kids with strategically placed scenery, similar to what Sinfest does now when Ishida draws child strippers and prostitutes to show how evil the "libs" are for wanting to see that. *This knowledge could be out of date because I am too afraid to read the comic to be sure.
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I'm not sure if it's come up, but since losing syndication, Scott Adams has a political comic: "Robots Read News" on his website. It's behind his paywall, but there is someone who leaks them, who unfortunately doesn't know how to take a screenshot. But we can't expect too much from someone who would voluntarily pay for access to Scott Adams.     
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All the artistic direction of Dinosaur Comics and none of the comedy
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Central to the decision to stop posting stonetoss (and, I'd note, the crew of related cartoonists in stonetoss's orbit) was that it was cryptoracist and fascist, periodically including comics that looked like standard internet "relatable" jokes and loaded with multiple levels of varyingly obscure racist symbolism. By design, it served as a pretty effective onramp for the alt-right even when it was being mocked or counterargued, because it was still getting more attention.
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That's just lazy as poo poo, it's two static talking heads every single time. I genuinely think that Dilbert used to be pretty funny for a newspaper comic that started in the eighties. Then I read some of his more recent cartoons a while back, and it just wasn't there anymore. Not even necessarily the increasingly prominent 'chud' talking points, the new stuff simply lacks heart and is needlessly meanspirited, like Adams had a significant personality shift over the years.
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dilbert broke: "hey boss, i'd like a raise" "sorry, i'm too busy driving awesome cars to give you money!!" *dilbert fumes* dilbert woke: "hey boss i'd like a raise" "you already work from home" *third panel reveal that dilbert was facetiming the boss from the beach* "i promise i'm hardly working!!"
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Psychiatry is one of the most Democrat-leaning occupations there is. Nice touch of the "we can do to them what we say they do to us" seed you're planting there
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Rebel Blob posted:I'm not sure if it's come up, but since losing syndication, Scott Adams has a political comic: "Robots Read News" on his website. Jesus, this is the worst dreck. Third-graders would find the “funny name calling” tiresome, and every single strip has the joke of “what if these two things I hate were actually the same thing??????” Somehow the writing is ever more lame and uninspired than using the same panel every time
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Phlegmish posted:That's just lazy as poo poo, it's two static talking heads every single time. The recent stuff where, for example, only stupid and lazy employees use their paid time off and taking a vacation is basically stealing from the company, are Scott's real unfiltered beliefs.
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 Guardian:  "Nicola Jennings on Rishi Sunak, the lame duck PM - With the Conservatives facing electoral disaster, the party plotters are at it again, seeking to oust yet another leader" Telegraph:  ‘Disbelief’ as under-manned Royal Navy seeks to re-deploy officers to diversity and inclusion team Times:  Lords will try to halt Rwanda flights until after the election Evening Standard:  Rishi Sunak faces backlash from Tory right over tobacco ban plan
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Well, it's been about seven months since I last posted Stonetoss. Let's see what he's been up to for the last half-year. Since that point, Stonetoss has posted 66 comics. I am not going to put all of them here. You're welcome. Instead, I'll go over the general themes all of them fall into and post a couple of representative examples. Stupid Meme poo poo This is the one Discendo Vox was talking about above; they're just regular dumb internet comics dealing with pop culture references or gaming. You might get the occasional implicit bit of sexism or racism, but their main purpose is to draw people into the comic and convince them it's more innocent than it actually is, while also getting some alt-right cultural memes onboard to get readers used to those. I've actually encountered these in the wild before and had to tell people that the comic they're gleefully pasting to their friends and family on Facebook was actually written by a Nazi. Every once in a while these will be designed to push people a little further down the slippery slope, but for more of that, see the second category.  Shadow the Hedgehog has a gun! This new game has pokemon with guns! Shadow is sad because he didn't do as well. Hilarious.  Wouldn't it be funny if a Spongebob character got Buu's powers from DBZ (also internet racists often love DBZ and this character in particular)?  Remember when that rich guy and his friends all got killed in a submarine? Wasn't it funny, when those people died? Standard Right-Wing poo poo Sometimes Stonetoss will just pick up on the standard right-wing talking points and do cartoons that wouldn't be odd coming out of our usual stable of assholes.  This one is about January 6th. Nothing special here, really.  "Man, some left-wing people eat some weak cuck poo poo amiright ha ha ha"  This is about a moment in the Republican debate when the candidates were asked if they'd support Trump even if he were convicted. Most of them hesitated. You can see more of the alt-right stuff creeping in here; representing people you disagree with as NPCs or robots is a pretty common trope there.  Note the "subtlety" of the racism here. They have to lock up the stores due to looting by those people, but there's plenty of plausible deniability if someone were to point this out. (The name of the image, incidentally, is "store-lootings-stonetoss-comic.webp", so it's not that secret.) Note also how the fascism is represented positively in comparison. Elon Musk Hey, did you ever want to see an Internet Nazi virtually fellate a millionaire?  He put this one on the announcement of the Stonetoss Threads account. I did not click on it.  This one is about Twitter ad revenue, something a lot of people definitely got and that definitely represented meaningful sharing of Twitter's profits.  The ADL is bullying poor Elon! (Again, the filename makes it clear that this is specifically the ADL). See the antisemitism block below for more on this. Virulent Transphobia and Gay-Bashing poo poo Pretty sure Stonetoss can only experience joy while actively concentrating on hating LGBTQ people. A lot of these are about grooming, because that's a line of attack the right has always found more effective in this particular part of the culture war. In the modern era, it's hard to sell the concept of "people shouldn't be allowed to do what they want with other consenting adults", so instead it's "but actually they are after your children and will pedophile them into gay sex demons".  Exhibit A.  This may be the stupidest and most evil argument I have heard in... well, okay, a few days at least.  Stonetoss makes victim-blaming into an art. Or whatever you want to call his terrible bullshit.  This is a really common subtheme in here - LGBTQ people are oppressing me by continually existing in public! Something must be done! Force them all back into the closet! (And in Stonetoss world, people being gay in public obviously means dog collars every time.) Just Flat Out Racist poo poo Did anyone ever tell you that other races are just plain worse than yours? Well, just in case nobody ever did...  Black people are just incapable of not killing you even when it's a bad idea for them to do so. Left wing people play right into this!  A movie happened. Also, remember the submarine guy who died above? Turns out it was because of DEI. No, seriously, the post attached to this comic makes it clear he really meant that. It wasn't because of the rich idiot overriding his designers or anything, they just shouldn't have hired anyone but white people to build it. Antisemitic poo poo Boy howdy! The bread and butter of any Nazi. Of course, he did some "regular" cartoons about Israel/Palestine as events were transpiring last year; I'm filing these under this heading because we all know why he's adopting the positions he adopts here.  (It's the Jews. He means the Jews.)  Getting in a little swipe at single-payer while he's at it here. If it weren't for the context, this is another one that might pass as a "standard" cartoon, since a lot of people (justifiably) criticized Israel for blowing up hospitals.  Everyone at Harvard is a Jew. https://i.imgur.com/1bJmNl7.png Here's that crossover with Sinfest. Linked for baby blood drinking. Uh, really, consider carefully if you want to click on this. I originally was going to put it in a spoiler but I don't want this in peoples' browser caches if they aren't clicking on it specifically.  This one might require some explanation. The USS Liberty was famously involved in a friendly-fire incident with Israel during the Six-Day War; Israeli fighters attacked it. The official explanation, based on investigation from both sides, is that they had mistaken it for an Egyptian ship. Conspiracy theorists have never let go of this one, even though it happened in 1967 and there doesn't seem to be a super strong case for why Israel would want to attack a ship from the US. Also Walt Disney was often considered to be an antisemite. (The historical record on this is complicated, but he definitely did hang out with Leni Riefenstahl.) And, lastly, Stonetoss is now selling plush figures of his klurfs. Yes, those are a real thing you can actually buy. I hope they are selling really badly, but I fear that may not be the case.
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Phlegmish posted:That's just lazy as poo poo, it's two static talking heads every single time.
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Wait, non-soy? quote:Cleverly, although not very originally, using East Asians as a positive example, presumably to deflect accusations of racism (although I don't see why that would suddenly be a concern). Stonetoss isn't the worst cartoonist in terms of presentation, but I can't imagine him ever becoming popular to any significant degree. You have to be immersed really, really deep into the Culture War™ to hold all of these extreme positions at once. Seems like there will always be things in there that get received poorly even by the general 'chud' audience.
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Phlegmish posted:Cleverly, although not very originally, using East Asians as a positive example, presumably to deflect accusations of racism (although I don't see why that would suddenly be a concern). Typically whenever nazis use East Asia as an example of a superior society, the unspoken attribute is "they're more ethnically homogeneous than America, which is good"
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Youremother posted:Typically whenever nazis use East Asia as an example of a superior society, the unspoken attribute is "they're more ethnically homogeneous than America, which is good" Figuring this out took me an embarrassingly long time when I was trying to piece together why so many white supremacist chucklefucks like anime so much.
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Cloud Potato posted:Telegraph: Kellies nomination: most accidentally badass Phlegmish posted:Cleverly, although not very originally, using East Asians as a positive example, presumably to deflect accusations of racism (although I don't see why that would suddenly be a concern). Again, the problem is that the goal isn't to get people to hold all those positions at once- especially not quickly. It's cryptofascism. It's an onboarding process for bigotry. It works. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jan 29, 2024 |
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