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I, for one, can’t wait till Ben Johnson is out of this god-ordained division. Players love him (and he can coach QBs very well.)
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Q_res posted:Why would they be behind the Packers? Haven't you heard? They've got themselves another surefire Hall of Famer at quarterback. With a stretch like this, how could you not be? 
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Lol the three decimal place age
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brugroffil posted:Lol the three decimal place age That's not decimal notation, that's years and days.
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Don't give him the Wentz label yet, he has a family
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shyduck posted:Don't give him the Wentz label yet, he has a family He also seems like a well-adjusted and even-keeled person instead of an enormous prick. Granted, Rodgers also seemed stable until later in his career.
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https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1751986381897810088 It's paywalled, but I think Barnwell's correct. The problem the Lions had wasn't the decision to go for it on those 4th downs, it was that they didn't execute the plays well.
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Imo the problem was the defense allowed points on every drive of the second half. I'll let them off the hook for one since it was Gibbs fumbling.
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I still don't really understand what happened to Wentz but I was not really following the league during his rise and fall.
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howe_sam posted:https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1751986381897810088 Two Drops + One Fumble = No Super Bowl
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The story of the game was the absolutely insane deflected catch at the red zone followed by the Lions fumbling their next possession. They just couldn't get back into the game after that. Dropping easy passes and missing tackles all over.
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Henchman of Santa posted:I still don't really understand what happened to Wentz but I was not really following the league during his rise and fall.
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Fortunately Jordan's 「 Silly Body 」will protect him against injury.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Fortunately Jordan's 「 Silly Body 」will protect him against injury. His GF is an OP exposing her man like that.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Fortunately Jordan's 「 Silly Body 」will protect him against injury. Wh-what?! An enemy stand?!
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howe_sam posted:https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1751986381897810088 Yeah I’m super concerned people’s takes are gonna focus on Campbell going for it on 4th down a bunch, and not how a handful of bad luck happenings destroyed them - the team shouldn’t back off their identity
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If its my game of Madden I am going to kick the field goal and go up 27-10 because I think possessions and pressure trump the points in that scenario. after that, the 49ers get the ball back in more standard field position and like what, 22 minutes of game clock to fit in those 3 possessions and 17 points? But then again it would have been a 45 yard field goal which is right in that area where I'm sure field goal % starts to drop, and that would've been a momentum killer too. It is an interesting phenomenon with underdogs in NFL games - you can fuckin' floor it and get a big lead only to find you've blown a gasket somewhere. quote:There's a wall between you and what you want and you got to leap it
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https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1751816608526324219 https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/1751815428660228135 They had a better chance of converting the 4th down lol
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Badgley making a kick from that range was a significantly lower percentage play than the Lions converting from that down and distance under Campbell/Johnson with a decent sample size on both. Both are also much more likely than an overthrown ball bouncing off a defender’s face into a receiver’s arms for 50 yards.
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20 Blunts posted:If its my game of Madden I am going to kick the field goal and go up 27-10 because I think possessions and pressure trump the points in that scenario. The Lions went for it on the SF 28. A kickoff likely puts 49ers starting at the 25. Going for it didn’t change the field position at all. And a missed FG would have given the 49ers the ball at the 35.
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When all is said and done, the fumble and the disastrous drops I think were more damaging than the decisions - but unfortunately for Campbell he only has control over whether or not to go for it or kick it and can't press a huge button saying "HOLD ONTO THE BALL"
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Also feels like missing out on the three points there wouldn't have been a very big deal if they hadn't immediately fumbled the next time they got the ball. You never plan for something like that to happen, and suddenly losing the ability to bleed the clock (or maybe even score) while also handing your opponent an easy 7 points is absolutely killer. You'd have to be up really, really big in order for that to not decide the game
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Like the Lions were in the exact same situation against the Bears. Bears kicked a FG to go up 17, and the Lions said, oh they don't want to win this and proceeded to come back Any decision is bad if you fail to execute
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Lotta poo poo went wrong for the lions in that game. I don't think Campbell's decisions, except the run on 3rd down at the goal line at the end of the game costing a timeout, are to blame.
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https://twitter.com/itszacharyj/status/1752030439684866277 Anyway, sorry Lions fans.
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It was really cool of the Bears to let the Lions come back. Really hosed up that the 49ers didn't let them, imo.
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Oh yeah the run there was dumb as poo poo from both a playcalling and a decision in general. If you are gonna do that put heavy out there and not 3 WRs lol.
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Scipiotik posted:Lotta poo poo went wrong for the lions in that game. I don't think Campbell's decisions, except the run on 3rd down at the goal line at the end of the game costing a timeout, are to blame. Doing that run with a 3 WR set was too galaxy brained for me. That might actually be what hosed them.
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MJeff posted:Doing that run with a 3 WR set was too galaxy brained for me. That might actually be what hosed them. The most Getsy brained playcall Let's have Mooney be the point blocker in a screen rear end play design.
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Dexo posted:Oh yeah the run there was dumb as poo poo from both a playcalling and a decision in general. Right, I know we'll never know, but I do wonder how hands on Dan is with the play calling in game, he doesn't seem to be at all, so I wonder if that was a Ben decision or what.
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If Ben gets hired to be a coach somewhere else, it was a Ben decision. 
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That's probably fair for his production. Paying him that off an Achilles Injury is scary as poo poo tho lmao
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Also if Detroit makes a FG there and they're only down 7 on their final possession, it's much less likely that they score to tie it up and the conversation is "wow Dan Campbell got scared when he needed it most, if they'd gone for it instead they would have won!"
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Last night not long after the game ended I was despondent. I was channeling the typical SOL Lions fan, convinced that this was it for the Lions, that they were cooked and would never sniff a division title or a playoff birth for a few more decades, etc. Mid-season Woodrow would've posted ' ' in response if I'd posted the kinds of things I was thinking at that time, that's the level of doom and gloom I was feeling.Waking up this morning though, I've come to accept it. The outcome still sucks but I believe that these Lions can do good things next year, barring something like horrible injury luck or Ben Johnson's replacement having such a poor grasp of gameplanning that Kirk Ferentz looks like an offensive genius in comparison.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1752031060295053555?s=20 Just came to post this. That seems like a big pile that MIN can't pay. JJ needs his bag, and he's the future of the franchise not Kirk. So Atlanta? Vegas?
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SirPablo posted:Just came to post this. That seems like a big pile that MIN can't pay. JJ needs his bag, and he's the future of the franchise not Kirk. I don't think Atlanta goes that route (although there is some familiarity between Zac Robinson and KOC.) Vegas probably sells the farm and tries to trade up or sticks with AOC for one more season. Too early to tell however because they don't have an OC. The underrated spot that I think could be in the market for a QB is Miami.
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