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SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

Oneiros posted:

automatically scuttles the ship when it gets within three miles of a competing shipyard

lol someone in europe did that with train cars. put gps units in them that lock up the engine if they detect they're in a third party repair site

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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

SixteenShells posted:

lol someone in europe did that with train cars. put gps units in them that lock up the engine if they detect they're in a third party repair site

https://www.404media.co/polish-hackers-repaired-trains-the-manufacturer-artificially-bricked-now-the-train-company-is-threatening-them/

quote:

Polish Hackers Repaired Trains the Manufacturer Artificially Bricked. Now The Train Company Is Threatening Them

How dare they break the sacred DRM. That's sacrilege.

(clutches Google Pixel in lieu of holy cross)

It's partially paywalled and I'm not going to but this is what I can copy paste:

quote:

They did DRM to a train.

In one of the coolest and more outrageous repair stories in quite some time, three white-hat hackers helped a regional rail company in southwest Poland unbrick a train that had been artificially rendered inoperable by the train’s manufacturer after an independent maintenance company worked on it. The train’s manufacturer is now threatening to sue the hackers who were hired by the independent repair company to fix it.

The fallout from the situation is currently roiling Polish infrastructure circles and the repair world, with the manufacturer of those trains denying bricking the trains despite ample evidence to the contrary. The manufacturer is also now demanding that the repaired trains immediately be removed from service because they have been “hacked,” and thus might now be unsafe, a claim they also cannot substantiate.

The situation is a heavy machinery example of something that happens across most categories of electronics, from phones, laptops, health devices, and wearables to tractors and, apparently, trains. In this case, NEWAG, the manufacturer of the Impuls family of trains, put code in the train’s control systems that prevented them from running if a GPS tracker detected that it spent a certain number of days in an independent repair company’s maintenance center, and also prevented it from running if certain components had been replaced without a manufacturer-approved serial number.

DancingShade has issued a correction as of 05:19 on Jan 30, 2024

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

SixteenShells posted:

lol someone in europe did that with train cars. put gps units in them that lock up the engine if they detect they're in a third party repair site

DancingShade posted:

https://www.404media.co/polish-hackers-repaired-trains-the-manufacturer-artificially-bricked-now-the-train-company-is-threatening-them/

How dare they break the sacred DRM. That's sacrilege.

(clutches Google Pixel in lieu of holy cross)

It's partially paywalled and I'm not going to but this is what I can copy paste:

:psyduck:

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

I kind of like this one given the context:

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

Remember when they accidentally revealed there are backdoors in the stingers they gave Ukraine in March 2022?

Lmfao wait what

Officer Sandvich
Feb 14, 2010

Slavvy posted:

Lmfao wait what

I remember them being geofenced, I don't remember if there were other ways to disable them.

Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋

yellowcar posted:

i know it smell cozy in there

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Officer Sandvich posted:

I remember them being geofenced, I don't remember if there were other ways to disable them.

Same. Wouldn't surprise me to learn there is also code for "fare thee well operator" if you tried to lock on to certain transponders with one. But the batteries will probably expire long before we know about that thus rendering them into nothing more than future IEDs.

Hewlett Packard ink strikes again.

text editor
Jan 8, 2007
It started when Ukraine bragged about being able to double their effective range by modifying the software, and the story went around the NAFO idiots with the framing of "this war is already paying dividends they found ways to help us upgrade our rockets" and it turned out it meant they figured out how to disable the geofence

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
In a way the EU is lucky the most Ukraine did to delibately escalate was use an air defence missile to kill a couple Polish farmers and (fail to) blame Russia.

If they did the same thing with atacams on an EU military base and tried blaming Russia that would have been an interesting day.

I don't think it would have worked but by golly it would have been fascinating to watch unfold.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

DancingShade posted:

https://www.404media.co/polish-hackers-repaired-trains-the-manufacturer-artificially-bricked-now-the-train-company-is-threatening-them/

How dare they break the sacred DRM. That's sacrilege.

(clutches Google Pixel in lieu of holy cross)

It's partially paywalled and I'm not going to but this is what I can copy paste:

in any sane economic system doing poo poo like this should result in an immediate government takeover of the train manufacturer and everybody in a senior position getting an express ticket to the gulag

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Cerebral Bore posted:

in any sane economic system doing poo poo like this should result in an immediate government takeover of the train manufacturer and everybody in a senior position getting an express ticket to the gulag

Sounds like some fictional crazy world where governments rule corporations, not our current one where its the other way around.

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtCdXlJYKgQ

Are the USAF able to maintain culinary operational readiness? Do they still have the capability to keep their personnel fed during various scenarios?

Junkozeyne
Feb 13, 2012

Oneiros posted:

automatically scuttles the ship when it gets within three miles of a competing shipyard

There was a recent Newag train scandal in Poland where hackers hired to unlock DRM'd trains found exactly that. I believe it was only found in one or two trains but those were programmed to softlock with geolocation data of a rival maintenance workshop lol

https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12142-breaking_drm_in_polish_trains

Junkozeyne has issued a correction as of 15:50 on Jan 30, 2024

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Jon Pod Van Damm posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtCdXlJYKgQ

Are the USAF able to maintain culinary operational readiness? Do they still have the capability to keep their personnel fed during various scenarios?

It’s all been contacted out.

I was listening to an interview with an artilleryman from the 82nd whose battery was reroled to convoy escort in Iraq. After one of their gun trucks was hit by an IED they popped open one of the sea cans in the convoy to see what it was all for, and he said it was full of boxes for Taco Bell and Burger King destined for one of the major bases around Baghdad.

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

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DancingShade posted:

In a way the EU is lucky the most Ukraine did to delibately escalate was use an air defence missile to kill a couple Polish farmers and (fail to) blame Russia.

If they did the same thing with atacams on an EU military base and tried blaming Russia that would have been an interesting day.

I don't think it would have worked but by golly it would have been fascinating to watch unfold.

While I'd never underestimate the bloodthirst of the US and European ruling classes, at the same time I don't think they want any part of direct war with Russia given how the current conflict has progressed. I don't think there's anything Ukraine could do that would convince them to go in directly. That includes the most insane options like blowing up nuclear power plants and blaming Russia.

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


love to almost die escorting the Burger King

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

love to almost die escorting the Burger King

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Frosted Flake posted:

It’s all been contacted out.


The US army has largely moved away from small organic teams of 4-6 cooks per company over to field feeding companies that get parceled out and assigned on an as needed basis to combat and support elements about 5 years ago.

This consists of active duty as well as reserve uniformed field feeding units.

Combat units miss having their own designated cooks they could know and control directly, but it was less efficient/flexible to have cooks assigned to a unit in garrison or on an all MRE meal cycle and every plus up of large field/combat cooking being a negotiated deal of loaning out cooks to those in need.

Can’t speak for armed forces like Canada etc.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

love to almost die escorting the Burger King

It is the 19th century. I am getting killed by mountain tribesmen in Afghanistan in service of The King.

It is the 21st century. I am getting killed by mountain tribesmen in Afghanistan in service of The King.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Owlbear Camus posted:

It is the 19th century. I am getting killed by mountain tribesmen in Afghanistan in service of The King.

It is the 21st century. I am getting killed by mountain tribesmen in Afghanistan in service of The King.

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Tactically inserting a beefy five layer, for the troops

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


Laying down your life to secure delivery of fourthmeal

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvQnw_DCJxg

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021
Samwise shouldn't even know what potatoes are. The LotR cycle was intended to be a faux mythology for prehistoric Europe, while potatoes are a New World crop. He should be lauding turnips or something.

I mean, it's just Peter Jackson putting a little bit of levity in and giving the movies some real soul, but still.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Owlbear Camus posted:

It is the 19th century. I am getting killed by mountain tribesmen in Afghanistan in service of The King.

It is the 21st century. I am getting killed by mountain tribesmen in Afghanistan in service of The King.

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012
The LotR movies also prominently feature corn, tomatoes, and tobacco. Also, like Middle Earth used to have a couple of big lamps instead of the sun and moon so the geography has been rearranged at various points.

Bar Crow has issued a correction as of 17:27 on Jan 30, 2024

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

It's funny that Warhammer Fantasy is more committed to the parallel and so has the not-Americas populated by lizardmen. LotR was content to say that the Columbian Exchange had already taken place or never been required.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Owlbear Camus posted:

It is the 19th century. I am getting killed by mountain tribesmen in Afghanistan in service of The King.

It is the 21st century. I am getting killed by mountain tribesmen in Afghanistan in service of The King.

when you're wounded and left on afghanistan's plains
and the burger king convoy is all that remains
just roll to your whopper and blow out your veins
and go to your god like a soldier

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

Bar Crow posted:

The LotR movies also prominently feature corn, tomatoes, and tobacco. Also, like Middle Earth used to have a couple of big lamps instead of the sun and moon so the geography has been rearranged at various points.

sure, and the Valar did... something to make Numenor fall and cut off access to Valinor. But all those events happened far in the distant past before the events of the books and movies. I can't recall any big rearrangements of the globe between that period and known history.

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


the elves took all the potatoes and tobacco with them when they hosed off to elfland

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

love to almost die escorting the Burger King

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRVfBkcWYk

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

Hatebag posted:

the elves took all the potatoes and tobacco with them when they hosed off to elfland

typical loving elves

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012
Europeans probably just wiped out all these crops on their continent through mismanagement like they did to silphium.

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

Bar Crow posted:

Europeans probably just wiped out all these crops on their continent through mismanagement like they did to silphium.

:hmmyes:

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Cerebral Bore posted:

when you're wounded and left on afghanistan's plains
and the burger king convoy is all that remains
just roll to your whopper and blow out your veins
and go to your god like a soldier

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

It's funny that Warhammer Fantasy is more committed to the parallel and so has the not-Americas populated by lizardmen. LotR was content to say that the Columbian Exchange had already taken place or never been required.

It already happened, the big island kingdom that had a globe-spanning empire that fell apart due to 'lesser men' polluting their bloodlines would have done it.

Ted Wassanasong
Apr 8, 2020

Frosted Flake posted:

It’s all been contacted out.

I was listening to an interview with an artilleryman from the 82nd whose battery was reroled to convoy escort in Iraq. After one of their gun trucks was hit by an IED they popped open one of the sea cans in the convoy to see what it was all for, and he said it was full of boxes for Taco Bell and Burger King destined for one of the major bases around Baghdad.

The US military marches on its fast food...

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012
Imagine a global spanning empire collapsing because the leaders obey whoever gives them trinkets.

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Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Ted Wassanasong posted:

The US military marches on its fast food...

That's why they're so fast. bradleys needed to be able to keep up with abrams because, as the abrams has a turbine engine, it can be fueled directly from used fryer grease from the mobile burger kings

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