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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

xiw posted:

1. Weisman's website was last crawled in 2022 and no other social media presence since then. There's nothing to actually connect the medium site with them directly and nothing to actually indicate the website was pulled down at the same time as the medium site.

2. The medium site was up for a very very short amount of time. Very few people would have seen it before it went down. Becami Cusack posted clips of the audio on their youtube, their previous youtube posts are Zak lawsuit stuff.
I was about to submit a reply concurring with you. Weisman's online presence kinda vanished in 2021. She left her postdoc position at Columbia to join the U of Nevada that year, but she's no longer listed as faculty there either. Her LinkedIn and Twitter haven't been updated since before that, and the Medium account looks like a burner. So I was holding out for the possibility that she left or lost her faculty position, focused on her private practice as a therapist, and someone connected to Smith stole her identity.

However, today Hill posted screenshots of emails from someone with a valid @tc.columbia.edu address, and another one from cbweismanlcsw@gmail.com, which is the account listed in Weisman's thesis and other publications. So unless someone also took pains to disguise their email address, that seems to be proof that it is her.

https://x.com/machineiv/status/1752072436403610104?s=20


Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jan 29, 2024

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Saguaro PI
Mar 11, 2013

Totally legit tree

That Old Tree posted:

The degree to which many people around here seem to genuinely think nearly every last post from some shithead defending Zak is always Zak himself. I'm well aware of the definite sock puppetry, but I also believe there are plenty of assholes who just like him for some awful reason. Although apparently I don't think that enough, since apparently this whole case is a real person that I thought might not be real after all

A land of contrasts.

Sockpuppeting is a very specific thing (making an anonymous secondary account that's just you) that Zak *sometimes* does, most notably the Dongion thing. What he does more often, and what makes a lot of people comfortable with assuming a lot of his defenders are just Zak sockpuppet accounts, is directly give talking points to real actual people who've fallen under his fuckhead spell which they then provide pretty much verbatim on whatever internet front they've been deployed. Depending on his closeness to the person this does seem to go all the way up to just posting via the proxy's account. If I recall correctly the big Mandy blog post, according to her, is an example of this, but this is why so many of his defenders use his same alien way of writing.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
so apparently the TCG Metazoo and the parent company just evaporated overnight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8PNZ5ExK2Q&hd=1

Magnetic North
Dec 15, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms

Captain Invictus posted:

so apparently the TCG Metazoo and the parent company just evaporated overnight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8PNZ5ExK2Q&hd=1

What will happen to my Metazoo NFTs? :ohdear:

Still worthless? Whew.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Captain Invictus posted:

so apparently the TCG Metazoo and the parent company just evaporated overnight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8PNZ5ExK2Q&hd=1

from what I gather this guy was a shitheel that constantly encouraged people to "invest" in it and was in on the obvious pump and dump scam?

poop chute
Nov 16, 2023

by Athanatos

Bottom Liner posted:

from what I gather this guy was a shitheel that constantly encouraged people to "invest" in it and was in on the obvious pump and dump scam?

That’s an accurate description of Rudy generally, yeah.

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
Yeah, he was pumping it when the Sanrio collab came out and talked it up as being a strong game and company. This is all the while telling people that WotC is bound for ruin and he has little faith in them. He's pretty insidious in that he's very clearly a seller with a store but sells himself as just a guy commentating on trends and is trying to help you, the uninformed. You too could work your way up to his level by building up a collection and selling cards! His whole backstory/mythology is that he was once a stockbroker but got out of the game and is now just a simple card seller. He also addresses a good deal of the criticism, especially those directed at him from FLGS's by deflecting and just claiming he has very little influence on trends.

Rudy generally pushes meme or investment centered games like MetaZoo or Sorcery and then dumps on WotC. A couple weeks after he'll post a positive video about WotC so I'm pretty sure he pumps and dumps while buying up MtG product when it dips, which is getting incredibly expensive. He also has been caught selling a counterfeit signature, signed card in the past, which I believe he's done his best to weasel out of having that stick to him. https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/8umljb/alpha_investments_gets_caught_trying_to_sell_a/

There's also 8 unique Rudy promo cards in MetaZoo so he was heavily involved in these shenanigans, even if he ended up getting burned. https://www.tcgplayer.com/search/metazoo/product?productLineName=metazoo&q=rudy&view=grid

poop chute
Nov 16, 2023

by Athanatos
If he had been born slightly later Rudy would have been a ground floor bitcoin guy.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Per the announcements, I had no idea that MetaZoo "revitalized the industry" and has now effectively "shut down the entire market." I didn't realize how much the hobby depended on them.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

xiw posted:

There's a few interesting facts to note when digging into this

1. Weisman's website was last crawled in 2022 and no other social media presence since then. There's nothing to actually connect the medium site with them directly and nothing to actually indicate the website was pulled down at the same time as the medium site.
2. The medium site was up for a very very short amount of time. Very few people would have seen it before it went down. Becami Cusack posted clips of the audio on their youtube, their previous youtube posts are Zak lawsuit stuff.

if you asked me to speculate at this point i'd put $5 on 'zak worked with this person a few years back. they decided not to post the article in the end, and possibly have dropped off the net. zak stewed over the lack of vindication, decided to sockpuppet it up with edits, showed a few buddies who started spreading it around, and pulled it in a panic'.

The bit in the post that doesn't pass the sniff test is the concept of someone independently coming along to the rpg industry, doing research, and coming up with Zak as the lone hero without being brought in by Zak.

Now there's a name I didn't want to hear again. Becami Cusack was an annoyance who spent quite some time last year crusading on how Zak being awarded $1 in a case against Vivka Grey meant he was clearly in the right about everything ever and should be given a triumphal parade. You know, despite the same case stating in great detail his abusive behavior in their relationship and solely differing from her allegations on the point he was awarded $1 for in that there was no evidence of physical force being used to force her to live with him.

Don't take my word for it though, go read the judgement. Content warning, there's some very explicit description of sexual abuse that I personally would qualify as rape.

Valatar
Sep 26, 2011

A remarkable example of a pathetic species.
Lipstick Apathy
Even if Zak Smith is as pure as the driven snow legally and everything he said is 100% true, he remains one of the least-likable people I've ever seen and I really don't care much about his life. That said, I can also completely believe that a bunch of "creatives" are actually a pack of backstabbing cretins who will throw anyone who doesn't fellate their narcissism directly underneath the nearest bus and be stupid enough to admit it in a recorded interview with some rando. I'm pretty sure that's a universal truth in any industry and isn't in any way unique to the RPG market. The only thing in that interminable slog of a read that aroused any emotion in me was resigned disgust with the author's, "Well I went in expecting those GAMERS to be awful bad harasser people, but how could anyone have ever expected these creative queer folx to be utter shitheels?"

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Probably one of those things where people assume that they can waltz in on a field yet to be graced by their presence and beat up on the pathetic nerds, and then having an enabler helpfully pointing out targets for them.

Especially academia bottom-feeders, they're generally neurotic petty manchildren that make goons look well-adjusted and mature.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
It does make more sense coming from someone who's never held a tenure-track position than from a mid-career academic. From what I'm observed, academics eager to do something so unprofessional are either on the margins, because they haven't been vetted and have less to lose, or so well-established that they can get away with anything.

Liquid Communism posted:

Now there's a name I didn't want to hear again. Becami Cusack was an annoyance who spent quite some time last year crusading on how Zak being awarded $1 in a case against Vivka Grey meant he was clearly in the right about everything ever and should be given a triumphal parade.
She has claimed to be his sister, then denied it. Don't know what's going on there.

Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jan 30, 2024

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
I don't think it's worth speculating about her mindset. I'll still maintain that there's not any functional difference between someone coached to write something by Zak (with his editorial oversight), having him write up an essay and post it under her name, or hijacking it to pose as her. He identifies people he thinks are useful, corners them, and gets them on "his side" through niceties and haranguing as needed. It's just going to be an enteral pattern of "Zak found someone else to brainwash into posting another screed in his defense that sounds like it was written by Zak" until he dies angry-but-of-old-age because that's how it always works out.

MachineIV
Feb 28, 2017

Nuns with Guns posted:

I don't think it's worth speculating about her mindset. I'll still maintain that there's not any functional difference between someone coached to write something by Zak (with his editorial oversight), having him write up an essay and post it under her name, or hijacking it to pose as her. He identifies people he thinks are useful, corners them, and gets them on "his side" through niceties and haranguing as needed. It's just going to be an enteral pattern of "Zak found someone else to brainwash into posting another screed in his defense that sounds like it was written by Zak" until he dies angry-but-of-old-age because that's how it always works out.

Honestly if I had to put Vegas odds on it, she wrote it. This isn't to say he didn't coach her or provide her a checklist or whatever. I talked to her for numerous hours. Her speech mannerisms come through in the text very clearly. I worked with her explicitly because she said it wasn't a piece about Zak, but about harassment in online communities and how online abuse and harassment affects people long-term. I explicitly told her I didn't want to be part of anything that was specifically about Zak, because I wanted that chapter of my life to be over. She never really asked for "evidence" or anything. She just asked what I experienced and how it affected my life. One time she asked for a screenshot of something I said. I sent it over. That was the only time "evidence" came up because frankly I was very clear I didn't want to be linked to any Zak bullshit. In her opening conversation with me, she said, "Zak S had a pattern of warning signs and red flags and behavior that gets ignored or minimized over and over, and this needs to stop." Which is duplicitous as all hell but I was too trusting.

I feel like such a rube. She got in very close with me. Made friends with me. Called me to tell me about her new house, and to send pictures of the lake in the back yard. When I had a massively bad breakup, she was the first person I called because we were talking that much. She talked to me when I was nervous about a root canal. We'd LONG since moved on from talking about Zak by that point.

I didn't know she was anything but a friend with good intentions until the breakup, when I got off the phone with her then minutes later my ex messaged me to tell me she reached out to her looking for dirt. I felt so hurt and betrayed.

Ironically that was the second time it happened. Years ago, Kirin Robinson sidled in with me and my partner at a con after party. He then started inviting us up to LA for lunch, where he'd talk to us about all sorts of stuff. But when I got suspicious because he kept asking personal stuff that only a weirdo would know, I fed him some false information. Very soon thereafter, Zak repeated that information.

Like I just wish I could live my loving life. It's been twelve loving years.

That Old Tree
Jun 24, 2012

nah


Much like the SAppelcline thing, the only explanations that exonerate Zak are so convoluted and unbelievable that it's a harmful distraction to be like "oh the industry is full of catty bitches anyway." It's full of lies of omission at best. You do not in fact have to hand it to this dog poo poo essay that was so obviously terrible even the awful harassing rear end in a top hat(s) that posted it took it down almost immediately. The only thing it meaningfully demonstrates is that Zak is an unhinged, dangerous loser.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

The time for
SkellyBones
has come!
What I don't get is why people continue to fall over themselves for Smith like this.
I mean, like what, is he literally made of money that they all can't but help gently caress themselves over for him because he's splurging them full of money?
What in their right mind would possess them to, especially in the light of the length some of them go to, continue doing this?

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



Mr.Misfit posted:

What I don't get is why people continue to fall over themselves for Smith like this.
I mean, like what, is he literally made of money that they all can't but help gently caress themselves over for him because he's splurging them full of money?
What in their right mind would possess them to, especially in the light of the length some of them go to, continue doing this?

Some folks are loving stupid and love following a pants-shitter. See also: Trump.

MachineIV
Feb 28, 2017

Mr.Misfit posted:

What I don't get is why people continue to fall over themselves for Smith like this.
I mean, like what, is he literally made of money that they all can't but help gently caress themselves over for him because he's splurging them full of money?
What in their right mind would possess them to, especially in the light of the length some of them go to, continue doing this?

He's charismatic and overbearing in a very specific way that gets followers to worship him. Identically to Trump. "Zak Sabbath Saved D&D" is just "Make America Great Again" for people that have memorized Monty Python movies but don't understand them.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I have yet to witness this vaunted "charisma"

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Halloween Jack posted:

I have yet to witness this vaunted "charisma"

It works great on the people who are susceptible to it and not at all on people who aren't. Everyone has different affinities so I probably love someone you think is an rear end in a top hat and vice versa. I don't like Zak S, who may have poo poo his pants in a Chik-Fil-A once.

Valatar
Sep 26, 2011

A remarkable example of a pathetic species.
Lipstick Apathy
And there's the simple explanation that he may just be opting to be nice to the people he wants to be his friends. Most of the Internet's exposure to him is when he's sperging out at someone, and I presume he's not trying to make friends in those moments. While I have never endeavored to get a bunch of porn actresses to show up for my tabletop games, I can't imagine I'd net so many of them as he did, so clearly he's able to interact amicably with people when he wants to.

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LatwPIAT
Jun 6, 2011

Valatar posted:

And there's the simple explanation that he may just be opting to be nice to the people he wants to be his friends. Most of the Internet's exposure to him is when he's sperging out at someone, and I presume he's not trying to make friends in those moments.

I have an actual diagnosis for Asperger’s syndrome. Zak Smith is just an rear end in a top hat.

Saguaro PI
Mar 11, 2013

Totally legit tree

Mr.Misfit posted:

What I don't get is why people continue to fall over themselves for Smith like this.
I mean, like what, is he literally made of money that they all can't but help gently caress themselves over for him because he's splurging them full of money?
What in their right mind would possess them to, especially in the light of the length some of them go to, continue doing this?

Apart from the whole "ineffable charisma that works on some people and very much not on others", it's two things:

1) A very consistent thing that's brought up by people who used to be friends is that he is very supportive of people he's friends with and goes out of his way to help them with their projects.
2) He writes the kind of dumb nonsense that can be mistaken for genius by people who do not have the confidence to not mistake the former as the latter.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Halloween Jack posted:

I have yet to witness this vaunted "charisma"

That may have been on display when he called me a pigfucker on G+.

But probably not.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
Gentleman, are you ready for the future of D&D!

quote:

Hasbro Seeks to Sell IP “DND” and Has Had Preliminary Contact with Tencent
Jan 31, 2024, 11:22am Pandaily

Speed Daily exclusively learned that the American toy company Hasbro is seeking to sell its well-known IP “Dungeons & Dragons” (referred to as “DND” below), and Tencent is one of the potential buyers.

At present, the negotiations are still in the early stages and both parties have not yet reached an agreement on the details of the transaction.

According to informed sources, the financial crisis faced by Hasbro is the main reason for considering the sale of DND, and Tencent Investment’s Larian Studios is acting as an intermediary in this transaction. Larian Studios’ game “Baldur’s Gate 3” won the TGA Game of the Year award in 2023 and is considered one of the most successful adaptations of DND. As a result, it was seen as a potential target buyer by Hasbro. However, due to insufficient funds, Larian ultimately introduced this deal to shareholder Tencent.

Hasbro was founded in 1923 and has a history of over a hundred years. In 1935, the company gradually became a world-class toy company with its Monopoly series games. It owns well-known IPs such as Transformers, Dungeons & Dragons, Monopoly, and My Little Pony. However, this century-old enterprise is currently facing a huge crisis due to losses. Its stock price has dropped from a high of $108 in 2019 to $51 (closing data on January 26th).

According to the financial report, as of the third quarter of 2023, Hasbro has been experiencing consecutive losses for four quarters due to its main business of toy sales. The accumulated loss from Q4 2022 to Q3 2023 exceeds $500 million USD, and in Q2 2023, there was even a negative free cash flow situation. According to Forbes reports, in response to the crisis, the company underwent significant layoffs last year, with a total reduction of over 1,900 employees accounting for more than 20%.

Although the company as a whole is in a loss situation, its DND-related IP is a high-quality asset and has achieved considerable success in video game adaptations. Last year, the release of “Baldur’s Gate 3” by Larian Studios was both critically acclaimed and commercially successful. It not only won six TGA awards, including Game of the Year but also generated revenue of $657 million, surpassing the Harry Potter IP adaptation game “Hogwarts Legacy,” making it the most profitable PC exclusive game last year.

The success of “Baldur’s Gate 3” is also reflected in the financial data of Hasbro. The financial report shows that in the third quarter of 2023, driven by “Baldur’s Gate 3” and another Monopoly IP game called “Monopoly Go!”, Hasbro’s electronic gaming and licensing-related business achieved a contrary year-on-year growth of 40%, reaching $423 million.

Outside of electronic games, DND is also one of the most popular tabletop games in Europe and America. It has appeared multiple times in American TV shows such as “The Big Bang Theory” and “Stranger Things”. A large fan base has formed around its related culture, making it a top-tier IP.

A Tencent IEG (Interactive Entertainment Group) insider revealed that Tencent, represented by its overseas business department IEG Global, is in negotiations with the aim of acquiring a series of rights including the adaptation rights for electronic games such as DND.

According to the aforementioned IEG insiders, Tencent currently holds the game adaptation rights for many top-tier IPs. However, due to the licensing model mostly not being a one-time buyout, Tencent not only needs to bear high copyright fees and long-term revenue sharing but also frequently faces restrictions from its partners in terms of development and operation. Previously, the mobile game adaptation of “NieR” developed by Tencent TiMi Studio was unable to be launched even until the project was cancelled.

If this acquisition is successful, it will enable Tencent to gain dominant control over the IP of Dungeons & Dragons, which will largely avoid the aforementioned issues.

Companies in Europe and America attach great importance to the value of intellectual property (IP), while Chinese companies have limited opportunities to acquire top-tier IP from overseas. For Tencent, the opportunity to acquire the Dungeons & Dragons IP from Hasbro due to financial considerations is a rare chance.

Hasbro needs the money, just fired the staff who cost a lot to fatten it up and the biggest story the rest of the world knows is about D&D is Baldur's Gate III and how much money it made.


This kills the tabletop game.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
I mean if Tencent does buy it and hands control of the TTRPG to Larian it'll probably be a push, and not dissimilar from Paradox and WoD.


Obviously it's possible, but It'd be pretty impressive to be notably worse stewards of the game and #IP than Hasbro has.

Magnetic North
Dec 15, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms
My first thought was wondering if it's a backdoor to getting more D&D movies in China, but its take in China was only 12 million bux (source) so that can't be it.

Warthur
May 2, 2004



Major risks foreseeable, off the top of my head:

- Tencent is already under regulatory scrutiny from the Chinese authorities in relation to gaming, this could drag D&D into that. Do you trust a government bureaucrat in your own country to a) understand that tabletop RPGs are different from online games and b) not have a weird axe to grind? If the answer to either is "no" I don't see why you would trust a bureaucrat in an authoritarian and corrupt regime which is fond of crimes against humanity.

- Let's say some economic bubble somewhere pops and Tencent shutter Larian. A lot of D&D IP might end up locked in a drawer somewhere in Tencent's HQ with nobody bothering to make it available.

- What happens to everything on DM Guild?

The 5E SRD coming out under Creative Commons alleviates some risks but not all.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
Apparently they just want the exclusive rights for videogame adaptations, not the actual tabletop system.

TBH, this could backfire, but it might also be better than the current arrangement. We got no crpgs during the entire 4E run and only some shovelware, Solasta (which was made without their permission based on the SRD) and BG3 during ten years of 5e. Yeah, BG3 is good, but we could have gotten so many more decent videogames out of it. WOTC has just kind of been sitting on the license for the most part.

Personally, I think the wise long-term approach would be to get as permissive with licensing as Warhammer. Even though GW has been giving licenses left and right, the average quality of WH videogames has been surprisingly high and the highlights have been nearly as good as BG3 (which has been kind of a freak occurrence) and there was a lot more of them actually released. It's the classic Pottery Class Parable approach.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Tencent only has a ~30% stake in Larian

Sven and his wife have the remaining 70%

Tencent can't just shutter them. They could pull funding and investment, but at this point Larian is no longer(probably? Who knows with AAA dev nowadays) in as dire straits as it was early on where they had cash flow problems, and now after 2 very good games and one mega hit funding shouldn't be too hard for them to get.

Also Tencent owns a stake in an absolute poo poo ton of media and games things outside of China.

Activision, Ubi, Epic, Remedy, I think Paradox. Chinese laws may prevent stuff getting released in China or whatever. But doesn't affect anything released outside. Especially companies it doesn't have full control over.

Alot of this is comical Chinese fear mongering(like America right now is literally helping fund and supply bombs and weapons for a genocide. I personally am not a fan of throwing stones from my lovely country's glass house wrt morality of the regime, hooray we get the ability to vote for which color is going to support American imperialism, I guess one color might put a rainbow flag on a bomb)

Tencent is no worse than any American megacorp. Such as Let's say Hasbro.

Anything you said about Tencent. Hasbro can and will do too to chase a buck. It's all capitalism...

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
This could be a wonderful payday for Hasbro's Board of directors just before the whole company collapses!

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
This thread is not an appropriate venue for yet another broad China Good/China Bad goonfight. Let's not go there. Again.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Lmao at Hasbro collapsing

It will be a nice payday they can show they are doing their best at "maximizing shareholder value"™ tho.

(Who cares about the hundreds and thousands of people who lose their livelihoods tho)

dwarf74 posted:

This thread is not an appropriate venue for yet another broad China Good/China Bad goonfight. Let's not go there. Again.

Sorry not my intent to say China is good or bad, just that like this is more rooted in the tenets of Capitalism than any particular country's policies.

Dexo fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Jan 31, 2024

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
It would be beyond hilarious if this is the thing that finally kills the shambling corpses of DDO and Neverwinter.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Dexo posted:

Lmao at Hasbro collapsing

People have LMAO'ed about a lot of companies that collapsed. Nothing is eternal, especially if companies like Bain or KKR decide it's worth gutting.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

Yosuke will now die for you.

mllaneza posted:

That may have been on display when he called me a pigfucker on G+.

But probably not.

Wow, I didn’t know we were in the presence of a former prime minister.

Comstar posted:

Gentleman, are you ready for the future of D&D!

Hasbro needs the money, just fired the staff who cost a lot to fatten it up and the biggest story the rest of the world knows is about D&D is Baldur's Gate III and how much money it made.


This kills the tabletop game.

Is this a trustworthy source that you regularly follow for news? I’ve never seen ‘pandaily’ as a source before.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Chairman Xi will kill DND forever god willing

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

DDO seems to stop be going strong though?

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Veritek83
Jul 7, 2008

The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.

DalaranJ posted:

Wow, I didn’t know we were in the presence of a former prime minister.

Is this a trustworthy source that you regularly follow for news? I’ve never seen ‘pandaily’ as a source before.

wondering the same thing- it looks like the pandalily article is just a cleaned up translation of an article in Chinese that's sourced to "Snow Leopard Finance."

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