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EmbryoSteve posted:If the hawks aren't gonna make a play for Jayde Daniel's I would love a magical trade down and drafting of sweat. We need a big ol boy I'm the center so bad I definitely saw an early mock of Sweat to the Seahawks (though in the first so maybe a bit early?) and got hype for it immediately. Unless something comes up, someone like him is very much the highest priority on defense.
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I've seen some mocks giving the Vikings a DT at 11 and honestly if they can't move up for Daniels I'm good with them getting a shitwrecker in the middle for Flores. Though if they lose Hunter in FA that defense is gonna have a lot of holes and I'm not sure you can pass on an EDGE or CB at that spot in that case.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Malachi Corley is unstoppable I still think hes going to take a year or two to really come on in the pros but he's gonna be a banger for someone.
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    I think he had a great game that I'm showing and is a really good center but trying to sell him as a space blocker isn't the greatest thing. He gets out there but he doesn't have the awareness or the ability to turn. I called him immobile earlier which is a bit harsh. I think the better thing to say is he can get out there but he's not very good at it. He's a bit iffy on A gap blitzes too which I think shows when he blocks in space. He needs to be better at identifying the correct block to make. He also gets backed up on really strong bull rushes because he has a tendency to stand up too high looking for a blocker or blocking the first person he sees. Other than that he's all you want in a center. Very good bend, strong, good help blocker, plays hard. When you send him into the second level up the middle he can demolish because it asks less of him from a football IQ point of view. I don't think he'd be as effective as a guard until he learns the game better. I could see him maybe becoming a good person to pull to the outside on off tackle plays but you'd probably have to use him as a drive blocker instead of someone who turns up field in front of a runner. Luckily I think a lot of NFL teams have been moving towards centers being set and drive or hitting the B gap on pull plays. Frank Ragnow, Linderbaum, Linsley, Humphrey, Pocic, Ben Jones, they all play like that.
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Doltos posted:Olu is still fine and properly rated, I think. It's just that the first 10 or so picks this draft all have huge ceilings. I think the comp for Olu is Matt Kalil when you look at the polish versus the upside, right down to where I think his pass set is so drilled and consistent that like you said, he doesn’t really do improv but is permanently capped on how good he is unless he gets faster to the edge. The Michigan tape is very very concerning to me because that Michigan disguise set is essentially just the current Ravens pressure package that’s about to become the nfl defensive meta at multiple new teams. I’m of the mind you can always improve pass technique, but you can’t really teach vision in getting downfield or anything like that. I also just don’t like when my LT has an inconsistent anchor. Sometimes when guys are getting beat wide, the coaching point is to back step low and try to get a defender either too high or later in his bend than you want, Olu doesn’t really do that because I guarantee his coach is telling him to play with width and not depth. Alt does some goofy poo poo in his pass set and has the annoying Notre Dame thing where he gets his hands swatted at times because he reaches a little too reactively, but he can do literally any run scheme you want which is getting more valuable. If Olu is an elite foot agility guy, Alt’s merely good. I don’t think it’s an issue in a world where guys like Orlando Brown is a playoff tackle with rings. Mims gives me Jedrick Wills vibes, maybe better upside. I get the upside play, but I don’t know that he holds a stance well enough for the average nfl passing game, gotta get his head up sooner and not give his outside shoulder so easily. Guyton played in the Mickey Mouse spread this year so I’m questioning how well he can consistently pass set when there isn’t run action to give him margin. He has a number of times he lost reps that just comes down to him overstepping and failing to get his feet down trying to oversell a pull or kick step. His upside from a movement standpoint is great but raw hand placement and could add a little bit of play strength. Gun to my head? Alt Olu Guyton Mims. At least on like 3-4 games a piece.
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I like Mims a lot I think he's everything you want in a big guy OT but that's also me being stuck in mid 2000's OL ideas. Absolute crusher in the run game and can set an edge but that's about all you're going to get out of him. He doesn't move and is noticeably slow trying to keep up with blocks when the play is to the weak side. I don't know how many teams are going to start copying Ben Johnson's offense and Penei Sewell.
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https://x.com/RayGQue/status/1753214153798332766?s=20 I'm 99% sure this is the QB of the future for the Vikings.
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I see people wanting to compare him to Ragnow because that’s the best example of a big powerful center, but Ragnow is also has better speed and explosion than all but a handful of guys. The guy JPJ really reminds me of is Richie Incognito, not an awful athlete for a guy built like that but more strong and tenacious and definitely not a wide zone guy Hamhandler fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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A Sneaker Broker posted:https://x.com/RayGQue/status/1753214153798332766?s=20 Future seahawk. Get him in the 4th. Sit him behind geno as the hawks clear à bunch of cap this year. Let's gooo
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None of those centers Naruto ran across the goaline JPJ first ballot hof
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EmbryoSteve posted:Future seahawk. Get him in the 4th. Sit him behind geno as the hawks clear à bunch of cap this year. Let's gooo Yeah I’d be good with that
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EmbryoSteve posted:Future seahawk. Get him in the 4th. Sit him behind geno as the hawks clear à bunch of cap this year. Let's gooo He’s the only QB I’ve actually heard positive things about all Senior Bowl. More specifically, he’s the only QB at the Senior Bowl who I’ve heard the term “Letting It Rip.” That’s a good thing. Any QB that can turn off their brain and spin the rock is bound to be at least good.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:He’s the only QB I’ve actually heard positive things about all Senior Bowl. More specifically, he’s the only QB at the Senior Bowl who I’ve heard the term “Letting It Rip.” That’s a good thing. Any QB that can turn off their brain and spin the rock is bound to be at least good. Have you blocked out Rex Grossman and Jameis Winston from memory? Hell, the reason Rattler is where he is despite coming into college as a presumptive star is that he turns his brain off a lot too much.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Have you blocked out Rex Grossman and Jameis Winston from memory? Yea Rattler is literally the one dude where you'd love to see him be a little more careful in his workouts. Dude would make Josh Allen blush with the number of times he tries to arm punt it
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Is this 3 whiffed low blocks and a botched WR block, or did the Huskies somehow the Ducks' shoelaces together?
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The Spencer Rattler Hype Train, long thought derailed because he massively and overtly sucked for his entire college career, starts NOW
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I cherish the strong armed qb himbos. Also love the Tennessee qb who has the size of khorne berserker and refuses to throw the ball with anything less than full power…
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kalensc posted:Is this 3 whiffed low blocks and a botched WR block, or did the Huskies somehow the Ducks' shoelaces together? I threw in one whiff block because it was funny but the three showcased are Powers-Johnson not knowing what to do in space edit: stupid rear end hosting service killed all my good gotcha gifs on jpj Alaois posted:The Spencer Rattler Hype Train, long thought derailed because he massively and overtly sucked for his entire college career, starts NOW Yeah he sucked. He's too tentative and also too aggressive which is a weird combination that shouldn't work but when you watch him it's obvious that he's playing without a real game plan in the pocket. He'll take shots sometimes, other times look off routes because he just hosed up on the last one he threw, or just wing it into triple coverage. He's got all the arm talent in the world but has nothing upstairs. I'm not sure if he'll have the same trajectory as Josh Allen but I can see teams grabbing him in the 2nd day because the talent is too tantalizing.
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Thick JPJ is a first rounder. Can’t wait for him to get to the combine so we can compare his measurables to the great centers of the NFL
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Thick JPJ is a first rounder. Can’t wait for him to get to the combine so we can compare his measurables to the great centers of the NFL No shut up
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a neat cape posted:No shut up He outperformed expectations and is probably the next great NFL Pro Bowl center. Sorry bro.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:He outperformed expectations and is probably the next great NFL Pro Bowl center. Sorry bro. Yeah he needs to last to 37!!
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This isn't a novel thought or anything but I assume having a great iOL prospect fall into your lap in the second or third round is going to become an increasingly rare phenomenon as teams shed the old-school perception of G/C as "low value" positions. It's a weakness for so many teams, DTs are getting better and better at pass rushing and defenses are getting more creative about lining up elite DEs on the interior sometimes
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EmbryoSteve posted:Future seahawk. Get him in the 4th. Sit him behind geno as the hawks clear à bunch of cap this year. Let's gooo I don't think he's going to last that long.
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xbilkis posted:This isn't a novel thought or anything but I assume having a great iOL prospect fall into your lap in the second or third round is going to become an increasingly rare phenomenon as teams shed the old-school perception of G/C as "low value" positions. It's a weakness for so many teams, DTs are getting better and better at pass rushing and defenses are getting more creative about lining up elite DEs on the interior sometimes I’ve been thinking the same thing since the late 00s. But for whatever reason the market hasn’t caught up. Guards and centers still seem wildly undervalued. Maybe eventually the market corrects? We knew rbs were overrated back in the 00s, and it took decades for the market to reflect that. Ole’ Hornery would be spending their draft picks to get an elite OL, that’s for sure.
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RB hasn't been devalued we've seen plenty of them go high. Same with guards. Are we all forgetting Chance Warmack? Again, there's no positional value for every single position in the NFL. Teams will take them where the fit and ability cross paths. No GM thinks like goons nor do I think goons would make very good GMs.
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Do you do this as a gimmick I don't understand or are you genuinely unable to make a distinction between the relative values NFL teams place on each position because sometimes a RB or a G gets drafted in the top 10
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xbilkis posted:Do you do this as a gimmick I don't understand or are you genuinely unable to make a distinction between the relative values NFL teams place on each position because sometimes a RB or a G gets drafted in the top 10 It's incredibly frustrating every year when people come in acting like they've solved the draft by saying less valuable positions shouldn't be drafted high. People think Guards should go higher because pulling is valuable but why else would you pull if not for mostly run plays? If anything teams value RBs more in the draft because of the rookie wage scale and fresh legs. If teams pick players high wouldn't you say those positions are valuable?
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Yeah the thing about Running backs is that you should feel free to draft the good elite ones high, you just don't pay them a second contract. People conflate not paying X with not drafting one high. Gibbs was worth that draft pick. Bijan was assassinated by his coach.
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a neat cape posted:Yeah he needs to last to 37!! I think the Chargers are better off doing something else with that pick imo, he should fall to 39 instead.
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Dexo posted:Yeah the thing about Running backs is that you should feel free to draft the good elite ones high, you just don't pay them a second contract. Yeah it seems to he the general rule of thumb is draft anything, anywhere with a couple exceptions but don't ever pay running backs and only pay receivers once.
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T,G,C All positions whose value has increased ten fold, especially teams now going outside-zone and more sophisticated running schemes. Within the next three years, tight-ends will get paid big money if they are in that elite bracket. E: PFF had JPJ's ADP as a mid-first.
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a neat cape posted:Yeah he needs to last to 37!! If he's there at 20, I can't see the Steelers passing on him. The need is dire, and 99% of Steelers 1st round picks are linemen or linebackers
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After the first 15 picks I can see anyone going in the first round
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Doltos posted:After the first 15 picks I can see anyone going in the first round finally... i have a chance.....
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Doltos posted:After the first 15 picks I can see anyone going in the first round Ha, sucks to be whoever's at 16! ...oh
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