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Anytime someone asks me what a book is about i say "250 pages or so"
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Anytime someone asks me what a book is about i say "250 pages or so" thanks, stealing this
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ulvir posted:the whole self-imposed infantilisation is literally the worst part of our generation. (any adult born between 1980 and 1996) says ever generation that has ever existed, ever
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Feb 1, 2024 23:30
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Bilirubin posted:says ever generation that has ever existed, ever It's basically the only constant in human historiography: "hey these young people are such babies, let me tell you what it was like"
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Feb 2, 2024 00:06
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Are there any really good stories written by adults about how Kids These Days are actually great and adults are total fuckup squares?
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Feb 2, 2024 03:02
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Gertrude Perkins posted:Are there any really good stories written by adults about how Kids These Days are actually great and adults are total fuckup squares? On The Road?
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Feb 2, 2024 03:35
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I just finished reading Greek Myths - Tanglewood Tales by Hawthorne to my son. Anyone else check this one out? Its got a bunch of great classics that I've heard of but never read before. The Gorgon's Head is the story of Medusa and how Quicksilver helps Pericles chop off her head. King Midas and his golden touch was crazy. He turned his daughter into a golden statue (she got better). The Chimera was a wild beast that the dude needed to catch Pegasus in order to slay. The Golden Apples was about Hercules holding the sky for Atlas. All were really fun stories and I was surprised that each one had a happy ending. Even Pandora's Box ended with Hope being the final fairy to leave the box. I love reading the classics and this was the perfect cross between lit and childrens book. I really like Hawthorne's transition characters like Eustice Bright and Primerose too. Next up is the Once and Future King which I'm pretty stoked about.
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mdemone posted:It's basically the only constant in human historiography: "hey these young people are such babies, let me tell you what it was like" Hes literally saying the exact opposite Bilirubin posted:says ever generation that has ever existed, ever Hm mod of book forum has bad reading comprehension very interesting
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davey4283 posted:I just finished reading Greek Myths - Tanglewood Tales by Hawthorne to my son. Anyone else check this one out? Its got a bunch of great classics that I've heard of but never read before. The Gorgon's Head is the story of Medusa and how Quicksilver helps Pericles chop off her head. King Midas and his golden touch was crazy. He turned his daughter into a golden statue (she got better). The Chimera was a wild beast that the dude needed to catch Pegasus in order to slay. The Golden Apples was about Hercules holding the sky for Atlas. All were really fun stories and I was surprised that each one had a happy ending. Even Pandora's Box ended with Hope being the final fairy to leave the box. I love reading the classics and this was the perfect cross between lit and childrens book. I really like Hawthorne's transition characters like Eustice Bright and Primerose too. Next up is the Once and Future King which I'm pretty stoked about. Grew up reading Hawthorne’s Greek myths. Thank you for reminding me, I used to love this book and spent many an hour rereading it. Probably my childhood overall favorite. And yes, the characters outside the myths really grow on you. I think I still have a tattered copy of the book lying around and it’s an edition from the fifties that used to belong to my mom. I am sure it was a great experience for your son.
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mdemone posted:It's basically the only constant in human historiography: "hey these young people are such babies, let me tell you what it was like" I am talking about adults here, not young kids. there are people who are now 40 years old who refuse to let go of young adult fiction and poo poo they read/watched as kids. like that person who was mad at the lack of quotation marks, for instance
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Feb 2, 2024 07:34
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i once worked with a man who was forty and wearing jncos and a wallet chain and talking about how great icp was
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derp posted:i once worked with a man who was forty and wearing jncos and a wallet chain and talking about how great icp was You should have turned on your monitor while at work
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Feb 2, 2024 16:47
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mdemone posted:It's basically the only constant in human historiography: "hey these young people are such babies, let me tell you what it was like" the babies are actually here, right now, in this forum, and they love brandon sandon
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this all just means the zoomers are going to be really into art and literature and rebel against the wizards and lasers of their parents
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Gertrude Perkins posted:Are there any really good stories written by adults about how Kids These Days are actually great and adults are total fuckup squares? Runaway Horses
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Feb 2, 2024 18:33
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i mean any mishima really
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derp posted:this all just means the zoomers are going to be really into art and literature and rebel against the wizards and lasers of their parents one of the greatest novels of the 21st century will be written by some dude named Anakin Zephiroth (using the pen name J. D.)
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Feb 2, 2024 18:46
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:Runaway Horses Had this exact thought
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derp posted:i mean any mishima really Yeah Temple of the Golden Pavilion and Sailor Who Fell From Grace also both count
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Feb 2, 2024 22:15
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Decay of the Angel makes growing old seem like the most disgusting thing one could ever be inflicted with.
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Feb 2, 2024 22:33
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Decay's insanely abrupt ending caught me off guard until I looked it up and Mishima had his spine split open basically the day after he mailed off the manuscript
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The rest of the novel is meh but the ending ranks among the best I've read.
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Gaius Marius posted:The rest of the novel is meh but the ending ranks among the best I've read. Yeah real all timer
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That brings up an interesting question. It's easy for me to think of works that have great endings. And it's pretty easy to name works that you don't love but have amazing endings, Great Expectations for example. But how can anyone name any novels that are incredible all the way through until they trip face forward into a poo poo ending? Both the works of Stendhal I've read, The Red and the Black and Charterhouse of Parma massively speed up towards the end and it doesn't really work in Charterhouse at all. Salammbô also has an overly neat ending that doesn't come close to matching Bovary's or Sentimental Educations.
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A Personal Matter by Kenzaburo Oe ends far too cleanly imho
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Grew up reading Hawthorne’s Greek myths. Thank you for reminding me, I used to love this book and spent many an hour rereading it. Probably my childhood overall favorite. And yes, the characters outside the myths really grow on you. I think I still have a tattered copy of the book lying around and it’s an edition from the fifties that used to belong to my mom. I am sure it was a great experience for your son. Yea, hes enjoying it but he's also very young so he probably wont remember any of it. I had a blast with it, though. I looked up the book online and it mentioned a bunch of tales we hadn't read like the Minotaur. I just realized that we were reading the Barnes & Noble edition which is abbreviated so I'll have to seek out the original book for all of the omitted stuff. I feel gypped now.
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ulvir posted:I am talking about adults here, not young kids. there are people who are now 40 years old who refuse to let go of young adult fiction and poo poo they read/watched as kids. like that person who was mad at the lack of quotation marks, for instance I was also speaking of this, but more from the perspective of the "literati" bemoaning the base pleasures of the "great unwashed" in every generation. Each generation has their own way of putting it. eta: but I will grant you this current trend of grown assed adults being ape poo poo crazy about Disney. Its weird.
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davey4283 posted:I feel gypped now. antiziganism is very real, please avoid this word
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Having finished Wuthering Heights, it's probably the most geographically constrained book I've read. I'd also call it one of the most cynical books I've ever read. What few moments of kindness appear in the book exist to be later betrayed. I doubt the characters whose prospects do look good at the novel's end are going to end up happy. Maybe Bronte was writing a serious story, but I found myself starting to read it as a humorously misanthropic satire. I do applaud it for grasping the human capacity for rottenness and narrow-mindedness, fiction usually striking me as a bit optimistic compared to my observations of real people.
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FPyat posted:Having finished Wuthering Heights, it's probably the most geographically constrained book I've read. I'd also call it one of the most cynical books I've ever read. What few moments of kindness appear in the book exist to be later betrayed. I doubt the characters whose prospects do look good at the novel's end are going to end up happy. Maybe Bronte was writing a serious story, but I found myself starting to read it as a humorously misanthropic satire. You would enjoy Bataille’s essay on Brontë in Literature and Evil
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I'm to understand that Emily herself liked living in a lonely, windswept country house, but the book sure didn't make the prospect appealing.Take the plunge! Okay! posted:You would enjoy Bataille’s essay on Brontë in Literature and Evil Thanks!
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ulvir posted:I am talking about adults here, not young kids. there are people who are now 40 years old who refuse to let go of young adult fiction and poo poo they read/watched as kids. like that person who was mad at the lack of quotation marks, for instance it's not just a millennial thing. I know some older gen xers who have suspicion and disdain for challenging literature. One of whom wrote a book of poems with the mission statement being that it was poems for regular everyday people, and not that ivory tower crap. The other said "no one reads the iliad and the odyssey by choice" and thought Nabokov should have been arrested for writing Lolita (and loves Disney). it's just a people thing. Honestly, I think it's great that people can feel deep connections to or still appreciate things that moved them when they were younger. Or still be open to appreciating good art even if it's aimed at younger audiences. I kind of think that the problem is that people have very limited mental bandwidth, and literature is often too much work, or there's too much inertia, for people to want to seek it out voluntarily. Which is understandable in our stupid society. But it's a shame because an active relationship with literature can be a deep comfort on an existential level.
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Bilirubin posted:I was also speaking of this, but more from the perspective of the "literati" bemoaning the base pleasures of the "great unwashed" in every generation. Each generation has their own way of putting it. widespread literacy was a mistake. Only reclusive monks and accountants should be allowed to read
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Mel Mudkiper posted:A Personal Matter by Kenzaburo Oe ends far too cleanly imho Yeah I just finished it too and you have the vast majority just this cowardly worm running away from everything and finally coming to peace feels a bit tacked on with how short the revelation is. Gorgeous writing though. However I will say from what I've read of Japanese existentialism I could use some cleanness. Jesus do some of those guys just dive into grime and despair and wallow.
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just in case folks in here browse the forums via bookmarks exclusively, the Book of the Month is Orlando by Woolf and it would be grand to have some book nerds from in here getting involved!
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Ive recently been going more quality over quantity recently with my reading. Just read Barabbas. Real good.
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Bilirubin posted:just in case folks in here browse the forums via bookmarks exclusively, the Book of the Month is Orlando by Woolf and it would be grand to have some book nerds from in here getting involved! i’ll see if I can get my hands on it in time
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I picked up a copy of To the Lighthouse instead whoops. But I've just started Seiobo There Below anyway
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a pretty rad whoops
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just wanna ask; what’s the pacing of Against the Day, and Gravity’s Rainbow?
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