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Sywert of Thieves posted:our lead tester What's it like working with E. E. Cummings?
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McGavin posted:What's it like working with E. E. Cummings? better than working with h. h. holmes
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Sapozhnik posted:This guy and the guy who messages you with "Hi", doesn't send anything else until you respond, and then spends the next few minutes typing out the message they were originally going to send, are the first two devils who greet new arrivals at the gates of hell If they reply with "Hi" and nothing else, I simply do not respond. They learn to give more of a response on the third day when my opening message adds "I will be closing your ticket at EOD if you do not respond" to the usual "Hello, I'm working on ticket [XXXX] - are you still having an issue with [Whatever the ticket is for]?" Also bad is the dude who respond with "Yes" when asked if two mutually exclusive things are occuring.
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Feb 2, 2024 16:52
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:Right after he said that the manager who is leaving raised his hand and says, "What KPIs did you use to mandate a forced return to office?". 
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Feb 2, 2024 17:20
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Sapozhnik posted:This guy and the guy who messages you with "Hi", doesn't send anything else until you respond, and then spends the next few minutes typing out the message they were originally going to send, are the first two devils who greet new arrivals at the gates of hell I hated getting a "Hi" IM at work, responding, getting nothing back for a minute or two, and then that person would show up behind me at my desk. The "Hi" just being a test to see if I was there so they could come over and blab about something I didn't care about for the next 10 minutes.
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Feb 2, 2024 17:23
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There are a couple folks at work whose Slack profiles include “nohello.net”.
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Feb 2, 2024 17:32
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leave your happy rear end on read all day. get to the point or dont send me poo poo.
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Feb 2, 2024 17:45
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:“…We are a data driven organization and can't rely on intuition or feelings for these things". Right after he said that the manager who is leaving raised his hand and says, "What KPIs did you use to mandate a forced return to office?". 
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Feb 2, 2024 18:12
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Found out that my current employer is charging clients for Engineer 3 level work but having interns do it all 
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Feb 2, 2024 18:42
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TehRedWheelbarrow posted:leave your happy rear end on read all day. get to the point or dont send me poo poo. "Hey TehRedWheelbarrow, DUMBSHIT from QA tried to get in touch with you twice in the last two days, are you checking your Teams messages? Please be more responsive in the future"
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Feb 2, 2024 19:14
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If you want to choose violence, send them an email and then call then about it about 30 seconds later
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Feb 2, 2024 19:21
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Wild EEPROM posted:If you want to choose violence, send them an email and then call then about it about 30 seconds later Call them and go "as per my upcoming email" then send the email. Then hang up. Might be too powerful a technique for every day use.
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Feb 2, 2024 19:33
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Nah, use it every day then just pretend to be confused if they get upset.
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Feb 2, 2024 19:38
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"Did you get that thing I sent ya?"
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Wild EEPROM posted:If you want to choose violence, send them an email and then call then about it about 30 seconds later my old boss used to do this, because she "couldn't be sure what I was working on at any moment" I eventually made a task list in Outlook and shared with her and made literally everything I did into a task. it was great when eval time came around and I got the whole "well what have you done this year" snipe, binch let me count the ways
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Feb 2, 2024 19:56
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Wild EEPROM posted:If you want to choose violence, send them an email and then call then about it about 30 seconds later One of the few clients I have ever fired did this every time. Outsourcing money grabbing bastard, I hope his business fails.
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My company's been having a real garbage time upgrading our document control software, and I was the lucky one to put in enough tickets that they picked me to be the "point person" for my department about errors Came in one day to 4 teams messages at 3am my time, from outsourced call center employees, all that just said "hi". Another one messaged me the same thing when my teams bubble went green, nothing else. Yeah I left every single one on read and didn't reply. Three more attempts of hi before someone actually made a coherent sentence and I finally responded They didn't fix the IT issue either 
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Feb 3, 2024 13:43
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Big Boss has laid down the law for returning to the office, and admitted in a recorded quarterly update that there is no hard data behind the decision. “Its all about the intangibles! No, we do not have metrics showing that in office work is more productive than remote, but its not about productivity! Its about having a thriving culture of innovation and creativity!”
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Feb 3, 2024 15:34
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Catastrophe posted:I just remembered me being the evil entity at a previous company. The network admin dept was a huge, open room full of cubicles. I would sometimes walk through and whistle the first 4 notes to The Final Countdown and then stop and wait. Inevitably, someone would whistle the next 5 notes from somewhere on the floor. I had a piece of paper that said that "The song The Final Countdown is now in your head" and would insert copies of it into paperwork on people's desk.
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Feb 3, 2024 16:15
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Catastrophe posted:I hated getting a "Hi" IM at work, responding, getting nothing back for a minute or two, and then that person would show up behind me at my desk. The "Hi" just being a test to see if I was there so they could come over and blab about something I didn't care about for the next 10 minutes. My favorite was one co-worker who always said "Hi." Then I'd sit there and watch her spend a full minute typing an extended message. Then, after teams no longer said "co-worker is typing," I'd wait about one more minute before saying "What's up?" Instantly that huge message would come through. I could have told her that I am totally OK with her just blurting out the issue, since she would reach out to me once every few weeks or so. But it was slightly more fun to imagine her squirming a bit.
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Feb 3, 2024 17:00
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The drive-by hi is the worst, I'd rather get bullets in my face
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Feb 3, 2024 17:11
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blackmet posted:My favorite was one co-worker who always said "Hi." Now I just blast everything into the cloud and come back later detached from human concepts of time and politeness.
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Feb 3, 2024 17:48
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I once had a project manager send me an email, then appear in my cubicle to discuss the email, before the email arrived. I am still not sure how he did that.
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Feb 3, 2024 17:59
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CitizenKain posted:I had a piece of paper that said that "The song The Final Countdown is now in your head" and would insert copies of it into paperwork on people's desk. Turns out this works over the internet too. Fucker.
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Feb 3, 2024 18:07
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actually no the song 99 red balloons is in your head
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Feb 3, 2024 18:10
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Mozi posted:actually no the song 99 red balloons is in your head It's better in German, anyway.
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You can also inform people they've lost the game
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Outrail posted:You can also inform people they've lost the game Doesn't work on me, I saw that tweet from twelve years ago that told me it stopped me playing the game and I haven't since.
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TehRedWheelbarrow posted:leave your happy rear end on read all day. get to the point or dont send me poo poo. I did this to someone I had never heard of that IMd me out of the blue. He called me the next day on my personal phone, and I have no idea how he got that number, which I let go to voicemail and didn't listen to until the next day when he sent me an email that started with "You haven't responded to either my IM or call, so I hope you'll read this and respond." And then he proceeded to ask me an inane question about weld repairs or something. fresh_cheese posted:Big Boss has laid down the law for returning to the office, and admitted in a recorded quarterly update that there is no hard data behind the decision. The return to office requirement in our company was pretty much the same thing "we find it's better when you can collaborate face to face! IMs and calls are great and all, but nothing beats interacting in person!" Someone pointed out that our productivity was MUCH higher since WFH became the standard; we're at 2019 volumes with waaaay fewer people. "No, that's not true!" was the entire counter argument. We're in supply chain, almost everyone we talk to is a vendor who may be across the country or on the other side of the world. My position is a little weirder because I interact with the production and engineering team on the daily and being in office would probably be helpful, but I moved 3 hours from the office with the understanding the fully remote thing was here to stay. Thankfully, they haven't just axed anyone not working on site. I feel like that was the next move but the RTO policy was so poorly received that they stepped back from that threshold. Completely unrelated, but after the 2% max raises last year, layoffs, return to office policy, hiring freeze and two reorgs in six months AND the company posting profits of a billion dollars in both Q3 and Q4 the company has found that a majority of us are returning survey results and having one on one meetings with management stating we're burnt out and considering other opportunities. The solution: they're forming a Culture and Involvement Council that will be responsible for making people feel welcome and included in the company. This likely means we're getting another 2% raise come April, which will be paired with "yes, we spent almost all the profit on buying stock back, but THAT money is in a different pot than the money we use for raises, so we can't pay you more with the money we use to buy our own stock" answer at the all hands meeting shortly after that. I worry that the company is going to go the Boeing route and let the money guys take over the decision making process. Already we have a lot of people with no Aerospace experience just popping into high level positions that are vacated by people going to completely different industries. I'm not implying that you have to turn a wrench before you can sit in the C-Suite, but if you have no idea how the industry works I don't trust you to make logical decisions in this space.
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Lazyfire posted:he sent me an email that started with "You haven't responded to either my IM or call, so I hope you'll read this and respond." *Mark as spam*
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Ravus Ursus posted:read the followup Dear Ask a Manager I took your advice on not using my work computer for pornography off the clock and learned that my local library has a public computer lab. Now the police are involved,
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My outsourcing person just sent me a picture of a brand new five axis machine with no context. We're looking at something that costs a quarter of a million dollars at the low end and I spent a couple minutes trying to figure out why he was sending me this. Then it hit me, I had been asked to pull a tool out of a vendor so we could internalize all machining on a part and the part was small with enough volume that it would need a dedicated machine. The vendor purchased a machine in anticipation of the part going to a 1.5 per day rate starting in March and we told them we were pulling the tooling out two days before the CNC arrived. I've been on the phone with the program manager and she's not even sure where the instruction to pull the part out came from, she just found out on Friday it was a thing. Amazing stuff. VVV Sounds like a great opportunity to only work 40 hours a week and not do anything beyond your regular schedule. Lazyfire fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Feb 5, 2024 |
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I got pulled into a meeting last week to let me know I was being switched from hourly to salary. They've recently hired someone from a much more corporate environment, and she has decided that none of the managers can be hourly. They framed it as a bit of a pay bump even, as appreciation for what I do for the company. Turns out if you punch my hourly x 40 x 52 it's actually $30 less (over the course of the year, but still) than what I currently make, and obviously I wouldn't get paid overtime for doing anything off hours anymore. This comes on the heels of me and the head engineer coming in on a Sunday and physically moving the server rack to another part of the building (per their request), which took about 5 hours because we had to run new network cables and cleaned up old ones. I'm annoyed but this will also apparently help me a substantial amount when it comes to profit sharing. I guess salary employees get a much bigger chunk. Suppose we'll see.
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there's pros and cons to salary. the big con is obviously the loss of money from OT. The pro is that if you have nothing to do, they have to pay you anyway, bc availability is an asset. I've always hated hourly pay bc my job in the past (not my current position) had lots of sitting around waiting for someone to pass an element my way, like a relay race - my job was being there and prepped to take that baton when it came my way, but the timing of when it could arrive was super variable based on a lot of factors outside of our control. So I'd keep my schedule open, unable to do anything else, standing by and being kinda primed like a spring. And corpos tried to arguing I wasn't actually working, which if you've ever been in waiting mode, it's almost worse than working. So I like salary bc no one is ever bickering with me that time I wasn't actively producing deliverables isn't actually work. It's understood that being available 9am to 6pm is the bounds of my contract and what I get paid for, and whether or not I'm working/have tasks on my plate is up to my bosses to figure out. It's great for jobs with downtime mid-day, but very bad for jobs which are constantly eating your time and go into OT. Which sounds like you where you are, sorry 
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There's pretty much never a time where I'm not busy. If I'm not doing my own day to day work, I'm working on SOPs and processes to streamline things. Then I do like 4 other things on top of that. I'd love some work down time 
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Well, sounds like you punch in for 8 hours and don't work beyond that then.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Well, sounds like you punch in for 8 hours and don't work beyond that then. That's what I told them when I was approached about it. Said I was way less likely to come in and do the extra stuff if I wasn't going to be compensated.
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Combo posted:That's what I told them when I was approached about it. Said I was way less likely to come in and do the extra stuff if I wasn't going to be compensated. All they heard was "I will do the extra stuff"
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Combo posted:I'd love some work down time It's overrated when you have too much of it. I'm salary, and today my job literally consists of looking at our system doing multiple dumb things on an application that I can't do anything about but escalate to people who MIGHT be able to do something about it, but probably not. This wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't A) Having to somehow come up with a way to make it look like I am productive 2/3 of the day in a retarded metrics system. Even my own manager knows this is unrealistic with the volume of work he has to provide me. B) Sitting in an office with exactly zero of my teammates (spread out over two other locations) due to my company feeling like I need to be a part of a community. Apparently my community is a bunch of people making outbound calls about wires. They're all very nice, friendly, professional people, and I have no issues with them. But what I do and what they do have almost no overlap, so it's like being forced to go to a wedding for distant relatives because it makes your great-grandmother happy, 3X a week. I like my team and manager, but I am used to what someone on here once called "intellectual assembly line work." This isn't quite that, it's more of a "hurry up and wait," kind of job they're trying to treat like an assembly line? Anyway, back to waiting. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Spoke to the owner about the salary thing today, he told me it was meant to be a bump up. I showed him what I made hourly and showed him the numbers as salary and he said "oh that's absolutely not right, it was supposed to be a raise for you, you're one of the most valuable people here". So if I do get moved to salary I'll at least get a minor raise out of the whole thing it sounds like. Good to have a solid relationship with the owner of the company.
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