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sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

Salt Fish posted:

I'm positive and you're negative and baby let me tell you, opposites attract.

take it from DJ Skat Kat

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Salt Fish posted:

I'm positive and you're negative and baby let me tell you, opposites attract.

Baby, it seems we never ever agree
you test your nostrils, and I test poopy

Hungry Squirrel
Jun 30, 2008

You gonna eat that?

Oracle posted:

I’ve still got people claiming that if you still test positive after five days on a RAT you’re actually just clearing dead virus and no longer infectious.

Not trolling: Does a negative PCR mean that you are not contagious (assume that it's two tests 48 hours apart)? Does being asymptomatic but having a possible but low-probability exposure five or more days ago change how much weight one should put on the result? Is there written guidance on this?

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Hungry Squirrel posted:

Not trolling: Does a negative PCR mean that you are not contagious (assume that it's two tests 48 hours apart)? Does being asymptomatic but having a possible but low-probability exposure five or more days ago change how much weight one should put on the result? Is there written guidance on this?

It means you're more likely to be negative. There's a 12-24 hour window period where people are infectious before even PCR's pop.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

Pillowpants posted:

hey guys how’s every doing?

I’m halfway through my third anti fungal trying to get rid of this tongue bullshit, but it looks like my sleep issues finally broke…

only for me to have shortness of breath all week.

wellness check, please post

post-covid fungal tongue bullshit is what took out the julia and julia lady

shazbot
Sep 20, 2004
Ah, hon, ya got arby's all over my acoustic wave machine.
please grace us with your maps friend. also heart attack guy this poo poo sucks

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Thinking of a colour-coded covid test - a red line for positive, gray for ambivalent, blue for aroused.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/meas...anada-1.7102005

seems bad

been a while since we’ve unlocked a previously well-controlled pathogen

what are the basics of measles pathology

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Dren posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/meas...anada-1.7102005

seems bad

been a while since we’ve unlocked a previously well-controlled pathogen

what are the basics of measles pathology

It's amazingly contagious and hangs in the air for hours. I'd be hard pressed to say which is more contagious, COVID or measles at this point, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's still measles.

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

Rescue Toaster posted:

I'd be hard pressed to say which is more contagious, COVID or measles

Good news! We'll have lots of data on that very subject soon!

Steely Dad
Jul 29, 2006



Dren posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/meas...anada-1.7102005

seems bad

been a while since we’ve unlocked a previously well-controlled pathogen

what are the basics of measles pathology

quote:

"It's not something that is mild," said Dr. Kate O'Brien, a Canadian pediatric infectious diseases specialist and director of the WHO's department of vaccines and immunization.

Not yet, but wait until avoiding it might interfere with holiday travel and shopping

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Taco Defender

Steely Dad posted:

Not yet, but wait until avoiding it might interfere with holiday travel and shopping

Don't worry. We'll get the mild strain of measles when it hits here. Nature's vaccine. The one you want to get.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html posted:

In 1912, measles became a nationally notifiable disease in the United States, requiring U.S. healthcare providers and laboratories to report all diagnosed cases. In the first decade of reporting, an average of 6,000 measles-related deaths were reported each year.

In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.

Look, it might not have been considered mild when JFK was president, but by contemporary standards, it absolutely is.

Measles deaths were lower in the seventh decade of the twentieth century than in the second, because society got much better at treating complications of measles And yet, they did not say “we have the tools to prevent the worst outcomes. It’s not March of 1912” and cease all attempt to control the disease.

Platystemon has issued a correction as of 08:49 on Feb 4, 2024

Parity warning
Nov 1, 2009



3rd Place, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Steely Dad posted:

quote:

"It's ... something that is mild,"

ive seen enough

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

Dren posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/meas...anada-1.7102005

seems bad

been a while since we’ve unlocked a previously well-controlled pathogen

what are the basics of measles pathology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxvMKAzz5NU

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
It must say something too that even though the MMR vaccine is like, 97% effective against measles, the instant the population coverage drops into even the low 90's you have these big outbreaks. Seems to have no trouble finding every possible vulnerable person it can spread to. If we had a 97% effective COVID vaccine and 90%+ coverage it's hard to imagine COVID sticking around for long. Which makes me think measles must still be way more contagious, even with the various R0 numbers thrown around about COVID over the years.

And even though we are better able to handle the acute symptoms, that will just drive the 'its mild!' narrative, and like with long COVID ignore the greater implications like the immune amnesia effect that measles has.

Kragger99
Mar 21, 2004
Pillbug
I was going to ask the thread where is measles still happening, and decided to just look it up. This is CDC data, and I'm not sure if that's good or not anymore.

This is just from Jun 2023 to Nov 2023:



Funnily I found this too:

COVID-19 has increased the risk of measles outbreaks
Over 61 million doses of measles-containing vaccine were postponed or missed from 2020 to 2022 due to COVID-19 related delays in supplementary immunization activities. This increases the risk of bigger outbreaks around the world, including the United States.


This covid thing seems bad. We should try to prevent it somehow.

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme
Lockdowns caused outbreaks.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Had a dream that I had a beard and accidentally shaved it into a Hitler mustache, so I had to keep my mask on all day. But I already keep my mask on all day anyway.

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
i got the flu last week and i have shingles now

but i still havent had covid PROBABLY

score one for the good guys

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



With friends like these...

quote:

To the Editor:

Re “Covid Vaccine Hesitancy Is Getting Worse,” by Danielle Ofri (Opinion guest essay, Jan. 31):

Unfortunately, Dr. Ofri’s language here embodies the misguided approach that too many in the medical community have taken during and after the pandemic, severely eroding our patients’ trust in public health.

Reasonable people can disagree about the utility of Covid vaccine boosters in otherwise healthy adults. Indeed the World Health Organization is not recommending updated Covid boosters for otherwise healthy adults or children.

Thus, the almost 80 percent of American adults who chose not to get boosted this winter are not suffering from the “heebie-jeebies.” They are making a rational decision that is in line with that made by European health agencies that likewise don’t support universal Covid boosters (a policy that, in my mind, is strongly supported by the current scientific evidence).

To suggest otherwise is harmful to the trust we physicians are trying to restore with our patients after the pandemic.

Shelli Farhadian
Guilford, Conn.
The writer is an assistant professor of medicine (infectious diseases) at Yale School of Medicine.

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
this what happens when you get measles debt during the years of lockdown where you couldn't leave your house

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Psycho Society posted:

this what happens when you get measles debt during the years of lockdown where you couldn't leave your house

[nods knowingly]

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Cabbages and Kings posted:

from a few pages back but after I had COVID in Nov I asked this thread and then followed a more conservative version of this

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/how-and-when-to-start-exercising-again-after-covid-19

the first couple times I went alpine skiing I noticed that even taking it easy my max heart rate would spike to higher than last year's max by about 5%. Concerning. However, now I've skiied a total of about 24hrs (not incl lift time) over 12-14 days out for 100k vertical and I do not feel at all impaired compared to last year and my max, avg and recovery HR is the same as it's been the last few years.

I'm not ruling out a random heart attack or stroke until something else kills me, though

lol nordic, do you hate yourself THAT much? :troll: god dang canadians, they're so close to me physically but they act like a different species

Sorry for the delay following up. Thanks for the link and sharing what you went through.

Self loathing powers like 90% of my exercise, yeah. The weather this year has been awful for skiing all around, hardly any snow, so it’s not the fun kind of punishing either.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

There are no social mandates with absolute yes-or-no answers in the future of neoliberal rot, only consumer choices. And there's no such thing as an incorrect consumer choice, only different ones!



Nails why the system is increasingly unable to sustain itself because lol this means no actions can be coordinated in a meaningful sense.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

Precambrian Video Games posted:

With friends like these...

Pathetic

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Finally got to do the thing

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

WrasslorMonkey posted:

Finally got to do the thing



Failure to swab anus.

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Salt Fish posted:

Failure to swab anus.

lol, I told him to swab his poop. We'll see if he actually does.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
is… the test mechanism for butt swabs the same as nose swabs

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


Steve Yun posted:

is… the test mechanism for butt swabs the same as nose swabs
slow and deep

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.

Steve Yun posted:

is… the test mechanism for butt swabs the same as nose swabs

butt first, then nose

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer
The new metric for pestilence levels in Korea is a bit harder to track

Health concerns grow for (G)I-dle with members falling ill back to back

quote:

A string of health issues plaguing (G)I-dle members is impeding the group’s promotion of the new album, “2.”

(G)I-dle’s Shuhua is taking a break from group activities due to health concerns, according to Cube Entertainment.

This comes less than a week after the agency canceled the press conference for (G)I-dle’s comeback due to members Minnie and Yuqi falling ill.

Minnie exited mid-performance during the final show of the Jingle Ball Tour in Philadelphia on Dec. 12, owing to health difficulties.

On Dec. 15, Shuhua took time off after testing positive for influenza A.

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck
Imagine being such a dork that you catch the flu during the largest covid wave in years.

Come to think of it, does anybody know if those cool multi-infection rapid tests will detect if you've got, say, COVID and the flu and RSV at the same time, or is there some order of operations where only the first thing it detects will come up positive?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
https://twitter.com/haig98/status/1753839916948009316

Men would literally rather

e:

Rochallor posted:

Come to think of it, does anybody know if those cool multi-infection rapid tests will detect if you've got, say, COVID and the flu and RSV at the same time, or is there some order of operations where only the first thing it detects will come up positive?

Like what? The ones that are just separate lateral flow strips packaged together? Lucira’s COVID/flu combination LAMP?

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

INSERT QUACK TO CONTINUE


Taco Defender
Regarding the measles thing, I got a full MMR course again as an adult a couple years ago, just in case something like this happened. I still wear my SecureClick or a PAPR everywhere, but on the off chance that that fails, at least I have a recent immune response instead of an ancient one.

Rochallor posted:

Imagine being such a dork that you catch the flu during the largest covid wave in years.

Come to think of it, does anybody know if those cool multi-infection rapid tests will detect if you've got, say, COVID and the flu and RSV at the same time, or is there some order of operations where only the first thing it detects will come up positive?

I live in a backwards country (the USA), so I've never seen one in person, but the only sane way I can think of to build one would be to physically separate the test strips within the housing. If that's how they're building them, then, yeah, they'd tell you if you had multiple things.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

mags posted:

butt first, then nose


no no I mean do they use the same test strips, same chemicals, etc

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

at least he’ll never get Covid through his eyes

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
Someone in a past iteration of the thread already did an rear end swab while they were confirmed positive from non-rear end methods and it didn’t work.

BOGO LOAD
Jul 1, 2004

"You know I always had trouble really chewing the fat with my pops. Just listen to him..."
coolcoolcool after finishing my Paxlovid regimen on Friday I've rebounded and tested positive again today.

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Soap Scum
Aug 8, 2003



Chamale posted:

Had a dream that I had a beard and accidentally shaved it into a Hitler mustache, so I had to keep my mask on all day. But I already keep my mask on all day anyway.

3 day probe for anti-semitic thought experiments

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