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Mods, can we get this for the next few weeks?
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Feb 5, 2024 18:31
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I think there will be a verdict today and that both mom and dad will be found guilty.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:32
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care to post the rest of the thread? I don't have a twitter account and nitter is dead.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:33
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Feb 5, 2024 18:33
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They brought a loving gallows and noose, stole government laptops and other property, assaulted and damaged everything they could find, and had people bringing zip ties to (something something) Nancy Pelosi. Who the gently caress wrote you the check lmao
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Feb 5, 2024 18:34
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I was at a Taylor Swift concert last night and halfway through she had Trump dragged on stage and thrown into the crowd and refused to resume signing until her fans beat him to death, which they promptly did. Overall a good show.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:34
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Verdict reached
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Feb 5, 2024 18:35
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Attempted murder!? How is that even a crime?
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Feb 5, 2024 18:35
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Mr. Nice! posted:care to post the rest of the thread? I don't have a twitter account and nitter is dead. why do I know Jonathan mitchell All Images Videos News Shopping Books Maps Perspectives Flights Finance Search tools Mitchell is credited with devising the novel enforcement mechanism in the Texas Heartbeat Act, also known as Senate Bill 8 (or SB 8), which outlaws abortion after cardiac activity is detected and avoids judicial review by prohibiting government officials from enforcing the statute and empowering private citizens to ...
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Feb 5, 2024 18:35
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Verdict reached wow that was fast. she is hosed.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:36
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ah thank you.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:36
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Dapper_Swindler posted:wow that was fast. she is hosed. Looks like it's just a jury question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eQ9f90yvZc
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Feb 5, 2024 18:36
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https://www.youtube.com/live/7eQ9f90yvZc?si=b0v4-c9cukzcMvue
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Feb 5, 2024 18:37
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It's not that simple to say 'Trump must be found guilty of insurrection for the amendment to apply.' Regardless, Trump has not been charged with "Insurrection". He's been charged with a bunch of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding type charges. So what charges would qualify, who decides that, and how does he have to be found to have committed them? Remember judges often act as finders of fact. So a legal challenge, a judge ruling, and a state supreme court upholding the ruling that a person has committed acts qualifying as 'insurrection' is about what you might expect as a reasonable process. Take for example other requirements to hold office, like age requirement and citizenship. If someone challenges one of those of a candidate (nobody's ever called into question someone's ability to serve due to citizenship, right?), how would that be sorted? You can't be found 'guilty' of being under 35 years of age, nor being 'guilty' of not being a US citizen at birth. You would expect those to be things determined with a judge as the finder of fact, not a jury. So it's not some automatic 'well of course a jury must find he's committed insurrection.'
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Feb 5, 2024 18:37
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Apologies thought verdict was found
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Feb 5, 2024 18:37
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Apologies thought verdict was found nbd when counsel and such is called back in it either means that or a jury question.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:38
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Random Stranger posted:I agree here, which is why I think the ruling is going to be a "here is exactly how to apply section 3 of the 14th amendment" thing and that Trump won't clear that hurdle yet. I also think it's going to be a 9-0, or 8-1 ruling; they're going to want there to be broad consensus for this one rather than give the appearance of playing politics. I also think this is the likeliest outcome, but I disagree on the consensus. SCOTUS was fine with completely redefining campaign finance on a 5-4 ruling with Citizen United.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:38
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PKMN Trainer Red posted:Mods, can we get this for the next few weeks? There's only two ways to get a gang tag 1. Get admins to do it (usually met with silence or handwaving) or 2. Buy yourself a new avatar and include that image in it, which will then get it hosted on the forums and then other people can buy their own avatars and include that image url Lowtax make me an admin plz
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Feb 5, 2024 18:38
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If you are telling me insurrection bars you from office then you are telling me Captain Jean Luc Picard could not be elected president of the United States of America in the earth government of the federation. And I cannot abide that.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:39
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Rescue Toaster posted:It's not that simple to say 'Trump must be found guilty of insurrection for the amendment to apply.' Regardless, Trump has not been charged with "Insurrection". He's been charged with a bunch of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding type charges. Was it Maine that found him guilty under the 14th? Colorado too I guess?
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Feb 5, 2024 18:40
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Vakal posted:I was at a Taylor Swift concert last night and halfway through she had Trump dragged on stage and thrown into the crowd and refused to resume signing until her fans beat him to death, which they promptly did. They do the same thing at GWAR concerts!
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Feb 5, 2024 18:41
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John Wick of Dogs posted:If you are telling me insurrection bars you from office then you are telling me Captain Jean Luc Picard could not be elected president of the United States of America in the earth government of the federation. And I cannot abide that. Galen is an American patriot! He did nothing wrong! He was simply fooled into working for the mercenary crew.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:42
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Rescue Toaster posted:So what charges would qualify, who decides that, and how does he have to be found to have committed them? 18 USC § 2383. Done and done. Rescue Toaster posted:Remember judges often act as finders of fact. So a legal challenge, a judge ruling, and a state supreme court upholding the ruling that a person has committed acts qualifying as 'insurrection' is about what you might expect as a reasonable process. So what you're saying is that higher courts have never ever decided that a lower court's decision was wrong and/or unconstitutional and/or illegal and then overturned that decision? Rescue Toaster posted:Take for example other requirements to hold office, like age requirement and citizenship. If someone challenges one of those of a candidate (nobody's ever called into question someone's ability to serve due to citizenship, right?), how would that be sorted? You can't be found 'guilty' of being under 35 years of age, nor being 'guilty' of not being a US citizen at birth. You would expect those to be things determined with a judge as the finder of fact, not a jury. So it's not some automatic 'well of course a jury must find he's committed insurrection.' You're trying to equate "crimes" to "things that are not crimes." That's not how this works.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:44
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PKMN Trainer Red posted:Mods, can we get this for the next few weeks? This is probably the best gangtag ever. They really think by saying poo poo like this they can change history. Get ready for once election season actually kicks off to see tons of footage of Jan6th in anti-trump ads. Even if you didn't know what exactly they did, its hard to look at that crowd and go "yea they're being peaceful". Also I'm 100% sure some PAC is going to be showing completely unhinged conspiracy theory ads.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:45
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Toxic Mental posted:Lowtax make me an admin plz If the coward Lowtax (rest in pisstape) does not have the strength of will required, I'll do my part.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:46
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2npCYNnV18 Look how peaceful. It's like a meditation circle in a quiet meadow.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:47
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This article helped me understand what could come next if SCOTUS rules against Trump https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/05/predicting-the-fallout-if-the-supreme-court-throws-trump-off-the-ballot-00139381
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Feb 5, 2024 18:47
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PKMN Trainer Red posted:Mods, can we get this for the next few weeks? Oh man, I need this tag. 
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Feb 5, 2024 18:48
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Mr. Nice! posted:care to post the rest of the thread? I don't have a twitter account and nitter is dead. 
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Feb 5, 2024 18:49
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isnt there a trial trump has to be attending today
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Feb 5, 2024 18:51
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Philthy posted:isnt there a trial trump has to be attending today No, unless I missed something, but the Engoron ruling could drop at any moment.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:53
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https://twitter.com/Democracy1stE/status/1754477396366143724?s=20 Pro pro pro click
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Feb 5, 2024 18:54
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I'm confused by why anyone thinks the Supreme Court cares what other people think of their decisions at this point; precedent? They don't seem to care. PR? Why would they care? Politics?
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Feb 5, 2024 18:55
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Hollismason posted:I think there will be a verdict today and that both mom and dad will be found guilty. Dang, sorry about your parents. Any thoughts on Trump verdicts?
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Feb 5, 2024 18:55
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/Democracy1stE/status/1754477396366143724?s=20 this is what happens when your entire movement are built on moron bigots with main character syndrom
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Feb 5, 2024 18:55
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/Democracy1stE/status/1754477396366143724?s=20 You know, I'm starting to think these convoy guys might be total dipshits?
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Feb 5, 2024 18:56
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/Democracy1stE/status/1754477396366143724?s=20 DEEP STATE PLANTS TRYING TO SOW DIVISION Real take: I laughed. That was great to watch.
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Feb 5, 2024 18:57
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/Democracy1stE/status/1754477396366143724?s=20 
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Feb 5, 2024 18:57
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Feb 5, 2024 19:02
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