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Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.
idk, all this sounds like abuse to me

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Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

Bajaha posted:

Yeah, nah. As a resident of the frozen north a lockout on the starter at -30°F / -34.4°C is dumb. I've had times where I street parked with -40°C temps so no block heater, and while the car complained it did eventually start and it's not like my oil was glitter next oil change. It's a bit of extra wear and tear but even as viscous as honey the oil pumps (at crazy high pressures, but nonetheless it'll move it through the system) and you still have a film on the bearings from previous operation so it's not dry metal against dry metal.

Having to hold the clutch in because the gear oil is so thick it stalls out the engine is certainly an experience. Once the engine's warmed up a smidge it'll spin freely enough that the extra load from the frozen trans won't immediately stall it out.

Living in central Alaska during the early 1990s and I’m reminded of block heater outlets all over the place.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

just build a fire under the block like you're invading russia in winter

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
I like how people admit to deliberately abusing their engines as if it's a normal thing to do

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

Nitrox posted:

I like how people admit to deliberately abusing their engines as if it's a normal thing to do

Terrible Car Stuff - while the car complained it did eventually start

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Yeah the lockout is so your ostensibly under warranty vehicle doesn't get ground to poo poo before the warranty is up. I'm positive you could use JScan and remove the offending lockout, but the dealer is gonna catch you and go :fuckoff: to you when you complain about mulched cams or a funny tick or knock 28,000 miles into your warranty.

While you might do it once, the lockout is there for the shitter who curb parks every day for an entire winter season and cold starts at below -30 multiple times without caring about how bad it's munching their engine up, it's to protect the car from morons.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Feb 5, 2024

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Raluek posted:

idk, all this sounds like abuse to me

Aka, living in AK

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Cactus Ghost posted:

just build a fire under the block like you're invading russia in winter

Plastic manifolds and cooling system components say what?

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Cactus Ghost posted:

just build a fire under the block like you're invading russia in winter

Several makes/models under various recalls will do that for you automatically.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
I remember seeing a video of some people setting fire under their truck to warm up the engine, but I can't find poo poo when searching on YouTube anymore...

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Uthor posted:

I remember seeing a video of some people setting fire under their truck to warm up the engine, but I can't find poo poo when searching on YouTube anymore...

Coulda been early Roadkill before they packed up their toys and went home.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Humphreys posted:

Coulda been early Roadkill before they packed up their toys and went home.

No, it was truckers. They were in a place like Russia, if I remember correctly.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


^ not specifically a fire but -58F/-50C in Siberia seems like a loving nightmare for engine use. That some of them just don't use a car all winter is one thing, that others will literally leave the engine running from October until April is crazy. Others bring them indoors and keep a stove blazing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH6r6J3WsDk

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.
Supposedly that is the traditional method in extreme conditions. Not like there would be block heaters or available electricity. The more traditional method is to drain your tractor of oil and coolant and take them indoors for the night, but that is from the days when coolant was straight water.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:



I'm genuinely shocked they managed to put a vehicle together at all if the lack of planning in the details was this bad. This has to be the first time a set of OEM wheels destroys the OEM tyres that you supposedly designed in tandem...


Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Others bring them indoors and keep a stove blazing...

If you're cold, they're cold. Bring them inside.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Olympic Mathlete posted:

I'm genuinely shocked they managed to put a vehicle together at all if the lack of planning in the details was this bad. This has to be the first time a set of OEM wheels destroys the OEM tyres that you supposedly designed in tandem...




I was really curious how they had managed to avoid tearing up their tires with those pointy covers laying on a chunk of rubber that moves and deforms constantly. Turns out that they couldn't figure out how to do it either, but it shipped anyway

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Olympic Mathlete posted:

^ not specifically a fire but -58F/-50C in Siberia seems like a loving nightmare for engine use. That some of them just don't use a car all winter is one thing, that others will literally leave the engine running from October until April is crazy. Others bring them indoors and keep a stove blazing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH6r6J3WsDk
During the recent early January cold spell in Finland I saw a bunch of articles and comments from people back in the day in the 80s when there were a few really cold winters (like close to consistently below -40 for weeks at a time cold, with lows reaching -50) and yeah, the trend was that if somebody got their car started, they'd just leave it running until the weather warmed up to like -30 since otherwise there's a very good chance it wouldn't start up again. Also tires would apparently freeze onto the ground and loose their roundness which is just mind-boggling but also probably promoted trying to keep the car warm if possible.

My dad once had to start his '94 Mitsubishi turbo diesel L200 pickup at -40 without preheating during one of the more recent cold winters in early 2010 I believe. He had an appointment or something at 9am and of course the '06 1.9 TDI Passat with a low-power oil pan heater and at least two bad glow plugs didn't even turn over. So he thinks he plugs the block heater on the Mitsubishi in, except because he's in a rush the plug isn't actually fully in and the heater doesn't run at all. Oops.

Long story short, well, it didn't exactly sound very pleasant while he cranked it and it sure as hell took some time to run with all four pots but ultimately it fired up okay, shuddering like mad but not puking up oil or doing anything else unusual. Car was fine after that, no issues whatsoever beyond the already broken speedo rolling over and becoming even more broken. He made his appointment and I got my free ride to school.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

CommieGIR posted:

Plastic manifolds and cooling system components say what?

they say "i'm fine, warm me up too, i'm also -30F like everything else so it isn't like i'll melt"

it doesn't have to be a big fire. the goal is basically just to preheat the oil

Large Testicles
Jun 1, 2020

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Cactus Ghost posted:

they say "i'm fine, warm me up too, i'm also -30F like everything else so it isn't like i'll melt"

it doesn't have to be a big fire. the goal is basically just to preheat the oil

i've seen it done with a small propane torch too with one of those big heads to spread the heat

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
This isn't quite the same, as cars but at my old job all our diesel equipment seemed to be old enough that they either didn't (?) have glow plugs or they just didn't work. We used to start everything at the shop, usually with ether and then let it run for 20 minutes or so while we got loaded, put on boots, snow pants etc before heading to the job site. At least then if something didn't start we had tools/resources there to deal with it. Or could bring it in to the shop to warm up.

it was 20 years ago but still the coldest winter of my working career.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


As someone who lives somewhere it barely dips into the minus (Celsius) I think I'd hibernate through if it got stupid cold.

Anyway :lol:

https://twitter.com/TeslatakingLs/status/1754174828905459801?t=lJ4u13wg7KIS8x991AuOQA&s=19

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Olympic Mathlete posted:

As someone who lives somewhere it barely dips into the minus (Celsius) I think I'd hibernate through if it got stupid cold.

Sometimes you gotta put on your big kid pants (and then another layer, and then another layer...) and do what needs to be done despite the weather.

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

The Finns apparently have a saying that is, “there is no bad weather; only bad clothes.”

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Many years ago when Mrs slidebite was doing her field work while an articling student in land surveying she told me she would far rather work outside all day when it was minus 40 then when it was plus 40C as it's much easier to stay warm and dry when cold then cool when hot.

And also no bugs.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


slidebite posted:

Many years ago when Mrs slidebite was doing her field work while an articling student in land surveying she told me she would far rather work outside all day when it was minus 40 then when it was plus 40C as it's much easier to stay warm and dry when cold then cool when hot.

And also no bugs.

1000%

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008





Hypothetically, looking at the mud splatter, the owner could have been doing something stupid.


I mean other than buying a Tesla.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Olympic Mathlete posted:

As someone who lives somewhere it barely dips into the minus (Celsius) I think I'd hibernate through if it got stupid cold.

Anyway :lol:

https://twitter.com/TeslatakingLs/status/1754174828905459801?t=lJ4u13wg7KIS8x991AuOQA&s=19

lol this is sure something I see conventional automobiles do, I hope someday we crack the "how do we keep wheels attached" problem

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Olympic Mathlete posted:

As someone who lives somewhere it barely dips into the minus (Celsius) I think I'd hibernate through if it got stupid cold.

Anyway :lol:

https://twitter.com/TeslatakingLs/status/1754174828905459801?t=lJ4u13wg7KIS8x991AuOQA&s=19

The wrecked upper joint
the wheel arches and rear bumper coming off
the jack sinking into the ground

its art

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

slidebite posted:

Many years ago when Mrs slidebite was doing her field work while an articling student in land surveying she told me she would far rather work outside all day when it was minus 40 then when it was plus 40C as it's much easier to stay warm and dry when cold then cool when hot.

And also no bugs.

Dear god no, 40C ANY DAY, gently caress anything minus in celcius


Olympic Mathlete posted:

As someone who lives somewhere it barely dips into the minus (Celsius) I think I'd hibernate through if it got stupid cold.

Anyway :lol:

https://twitter.com/TeslatakingLs/status/1754174828905459801?t=lJ4u13wg7KIS8x991AuOQA&s=19

Man there is so much going on there. Its flithy so I'm guessing offroad so frankly *shrug*, seen worse

But there is some terrible poo poo going on here. The jack sinking into the ground and looking like it'll topple over. The piss weak brakes - I know sliding calipers can be almost as good as monoblock but still way underspecced for something fast, heavy and expensive.

BUt anyway no one here has any amount of money that will persuade me to be near that thing with the jack being so precarious. Bet it's rated to two tones as well.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

I'll give the brakes a pass...EV and all.

Basically, looks like some clay pottery that exploded in the kiln to me.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!



Huh. Almost like tires flex and bulge or something in use. Bizarre. Who would have thought?


bird with big dick posted:

The only crash test I’ve seen from the cybertruck it looked about the same as the F-150. But someone made a video of it comparing full frontal cybertruck to small offset other trucks which makes the cybertruck look bad but obviously isn’t a valid comparison.

It’s entirely possible the cybrtrk will do shittily due to its “unique” construction, but Teslas other vehicles do well in crash tests so I wouldn’t guarantee it.

I saw a video where they compared the CT to an F-150 NHTSA test. The trucks fared essentially the same, but the commentator noted that the test dummies inside moved a LOT further, meaning more energy transferred to the occupants.

redgubbinz posted:

IncEl Camino

Holy poo poo. Brilliant.

Bajaha posted:

Yeah, nah. As a resident of the frozen north a lockout on the starter at -30°F / -34.4°C is dumb. I've had times where I street parked with -40°C temps so no block heater, and while the car complained it did eventually start and it's not like my oil was glitter next oil change. It's a bit of extra wear and tear but even as viscous as honey the oil pumps (at crazy high pressures, but nonetheless it'll move it through the system) and you still have a film on the bearings from previous operation so it's not dry metal against dry metal.

Having to hold the clutch in because the gear oil is so thick it stalls out the engine is certainly an experience. Once the engine's warmed up a smidge it'll spin freely enough that the extra load from the frozen trans won't immediately stall it out.

This is God's way of telling you that you that people shouldn't live there.

slidebite posted:

Many years ago when Mrs slidebite was doing her field work while an articling student in land surveying she told me she would far rather work outside all day when it was minus 40 then when it was plus 40C as it's much easier to stay warm and dry when cold then cool when hot.

And also no bugs.

I don't like cold, but as a resident of Texas, I can't really argue with that.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Jonny Nox posted:

Hypothetically, looking at the mud splatter, the owner could have been doing something stupid.


I mean other than buying a Tesla.

The upper ball joint and upper control arm were noted to be suspect when photos were shown.

But anyway more Tesla because it's genuinely my favourite lovely design brand. Look at how sad and pathetic this is. The people long for a dashboard in front of them 😭

https://twitter.com/IAmSuburban/status/1754274923038589053?t=Y00-skC1nk0ImY31ooxYNQ&s=19

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe

shyduck posted:



edit: you won't be surprised to hear this guy sounds like a massive piece of poo poo



Stole this from one of the Musk threads. Really curious what cars the couple owns already?

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Dear god no, 40C ANY DAY, gently caress anything minus in celcius

...

Are you sure you haven't confused F and C? Zero is warmer in C.

Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Feb 6, 2024

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer
My friend had a 6.2 diesel van with bad glowplugs. Every evening before bed he'd prep a steel pan with some coal briquettes, and he'd light it up right after waking up every morning. As soon as the fire died down he'd put the pan with the smoldering briquettes under the oil pan of the van. After breakfast, the engine was usually warm enough not to need the glow plugs.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Colostomy Bag posted:

I'll give the brakes a pass...EV and all.

Basically, looks like some clay pottery that exploded in the kiln to me.

It looks like a dumpster full of car parts fell over.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Are you sure you haven't confused F and C? Zero is warmer in C.

Yes. Delicious nice warmth where you might want a hoodie at 18C because it's winter

redgubbinz posted:

It looks like a dumpster full of car parts fell over.

Cmon man, dont insult dumpsters like that - dumpsters are actually useful

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

Nidhg00670000 posted:

My friend had a 6.2 diesel van with bad glowplugs. Every evening before bed he'd prep a steel pan with some coal briquettes, and he'd light it up right after waking up every morning. As soon as the fire died down he'd put the pan with the smoldering briquettes under the oil pan of the van. After breakfast, the engine was usually warm enough not to need the glow plugs.

genius

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freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



Failson posted:

Stole this from one of the Musk threads. Really curious what cars the couple owns already?

:sever:

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