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Revenge of the Ninja vs. The Noonday Witch: 3/5 vs. 4/5 Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein vs. Malpertuis: 3/5 vs. 4/5 Easy votes in both match-ups, but I have to say, I'm disappointed by Revenge of the Ninja. It didn't hold a candle to the other Timoer films I've seen. If anyone enjoyed it and wants to see Timoer really pull out the stops, I highly recommend tracking down a copy of The Devil's Sword. Respect to Mary Shelley's Frankenstein for trying to include so many details which are usually left out of Frankenstein adaptations, but it's just too much to cram into two hours. Good example of what happens when you tell your actors they don't have to bother with restraint or playing things small, though.
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Malpertuis is completely my vibe, it’s gorgeous and it’s weird. The only thing I didn’t enjoy was the ending, from the explanation of whats happening to the it was a dream or was it finale. Some things are better left unexplained. Frankenstein goes about as fast as a movie can go, cramming an insane amount of EVERYTHING into a two hour runtime. It really could have used some room for breating, either by cutting out a lot of stuff or making it longer. I’m sure some directors cut exists that does just that. Malpertuis it is
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I liked Malpertuis and Mary Shelley's Frankenstein about the same, which is to say I found them both rather middling. It was kind of a tough choice. I actually like Frankenstein's insane energy, and it features some better performances. Plus I think it does the horror better. Malpertuis had a classic horror premise but does little with it and just sort of peters out into wankery by the end. Not to say that Branagh's film isn't pretentious and melodramatic, but it does have some spooky and creepy bits. As for the other match-up, Noonday Witch should be exactly in my wheelhouse. I love a heavy-handed horror metaphor, and there are a number of specific personal reasons I ought to have liked this film in particular. However, it has such a flaccid second act followed by a too-quick resolution that I was simply disappointed. Maybe I had too high of expectations, but I really think it doesn't really decide to go for the horror until too far into the runtime. I'm still voting for it, because Revenge of the Ninja had very little going for it. It has a thin and confusing demon-possession(?) plot (though one with at least a little potential) punctuated with lots of action. Not enough to hold my interest.
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Whatever Malperius does or says for others just missed with me entirely. I was bored as hell and never cared about the mystery of what was happening because the film never gave me a reason to care. It just gave me lots of this incredibly nothing main character walking around a house changing his mind over which cousin he wants to gently caress. And I have no idea what the point was of them all being played by the same actress. The best I can come up with is that either the director or the character just finds all women interchangeable or its some gross proto step sister porn stuff of him really wanting to gently caress his sister but she might not be into that so he'll gently caress his identical cousin instead. I dunno. It probably means nothing except that this sleazy gross sexual stuff was popular with the time/place and the whole greek god thing gave a flimsy excuse. And that ultimate reveal could have been interesting but the film doesn't do anything interesting with it. The movie just ends. Which admittedly was my favorite part. The end. Because then I no longer had to watch Jan gently caress his siblings as I had for the last two hours. I haven't rewatched Frankenstein yet. I saw it a few years ago and remember very little except that it was "meh". But even that kind of easily beats out Malperious for me even if it wasn't my team. I'm gonna try and fit it in tonight but its pretty academic. I'm not gnna dislike it less than I did Malperius unless I forgot about the middle of the movie being incest sex. Wait, was Frankenstein's wife his cousin or something? gently caress... Return of the Ninja was just nothing. Terribly made and boring as hell. It took me three days to watch it. I was expecting one of those crazy movies which I don't like but that would have at least been something. I guess this has hints of whatever kooky action or whatever people like. But it felt very limited. But also I have no loving idea what the movie was about so maybe it was me. Watching Noonday Witch now. Already like it enough to be pretty confident I'm voting for it.
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I went with Malpertuis because I enjoyed the weird maze mansion more than anything else. It was one of those cool dreams you have once a year and wake up wondering what the gently caress. (Which was the point, I think - well done) Frankenstein is just eh. I also went with Noonday Witch. It was such a sedated movie for what it was, but it captivated me the entire time in a good way. It was my favorite of the week. Revenge of the Ninja was just too chaotic for it's own good. I like the other Revenge of the Ninja much more. I'm really glad I got to rewatch that one. What a blast. Pretty much middle of the road for all of them, I guess. Philthy fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Jan 29, 2024 |
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Noonday Witch was a movie I wanted to like more than I ultimately did. I dug everything about it really. The acting, the look, the atmosphere, the pace. But it kind of never enters second gear. I was shocked when the finale came because I just genuinely didn't think we were anywhere near it. Ultimately the movie just kind of ends. I still enjoyed it and I'm easily voting for it but it didn't quite feel finished to me. Frankenstein is a bit odd. It feels more like a BBC production than a blockbuster film produced to Coppola. Some of that's probably just production values, some of it is Branagh doing his best to include the entire novel including the parts usually ignored, and part is probably just Branagh's heavily Shakespearan style as this feels like one of those BBC Shakespeare productions he built his early career on. Still Branagh's a solid director and even if it is a BBC adaption its one with a killer cast and a larger than usual budget with some major settings and such. In my book it beats out Malperious easily in any category. And at least its just his foster sister.
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Darthemed posted:Whoa, gotta say I’m surprised you’ve never seen the Branagh take on Frankie, MZ. One of those "on my list" perpetually flicks lol
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I had a bunch of real life stuff interfering this week so I didn't get my vote in until just now. You know it's funny, when I first saw Frankenstein years ago, I really wasn't a fan of DeNiro's performance. I thought it was way too in-line with the typical DeNiro persona and I had a hard time really seeing anything other than DeNiro and his chin making his DeNiro faces. But I've watched the movie several times since then and his performance has really grown on me a lot. It's actually pretty complex and one thing that you know DeNiro can bring to a role is barely contained rage, which I think is a more nuanced take than a lot of the more classic Frankensteins. Like, you'll often get the more innocent pitiable Frankenstein, or sometimes you get the full-on rage monster, but DeNiro gives you the conflict between those two sides and shows you that struggle in a way that I have gained an appreciation for over the past several years since I've owned the movie and rewatched it a few times.
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Mondays. Amirite?  Its a decisive victory for Team Fresh Styles and the most narrow of wins for Bracketology Redux. Revenge of the Ninja didn’t get shutout or anything but it gets doubled up on by the Noonday Witch and easily takes that contest. While Malperius very nearly pulled this one off but falls just 1 vote shy of Branagh’s Frankenstein. That means the end of the line for TaBOO and Timoer but in a week we’ll see Redux and Fresh Styles back again to face off. Ok I made a mess of things last week. Lets see if I did better this week. 1. (Sam’s I Ain't Never Seen This Before) John Parker’s Dementia vs. 16. (Darth’s Team Metro Noir Horror Anime) Yoshiaki Kawajiri’s Wicked City  Hey, its Trevor! Our zombie friend who died in a video rental store in the 80s! What a better guy to pick out some random rear end films for us, because that’s what he does for Sventoonie every week! So what do we have in this one? Well more anime, and Wicked City sounds like a generally well known and received one? Well its also knocked as being very misogynistic but that doesn’t always seem to count against anime of the time? I dunno. But sounds like what I’ve come to expect. On the flip side we have something very different, much as the team I Ain’t Never Seen This Before promised. An experimental film noir with no dialogue that traps the viewer in the character’s nightmares? Described by some as a Twilight Zone episode and running under an hour its definitely sounding like a different entry for us. But can it beat out anime? Or will tentacle rape rule the day? Dementia is available for streaming on Cohen Media, Cultpix, Plex, Screambox. and Tubi TV Wicked City is available for streaming on HiDive, Midnight Pulp, Plex, Pluto TV, Retrocrush, Screambox, Roku, Tubi TV, and Viewster. 8. (Goat’s Lewton Bus) Mark Robson’s Bedlam vs. 9. Kiyoshi Kurosawa’s Sweet Home  Ok, ok. Sven taking back his dungeon and just in time for some classic Svengoolie fair with Lewton Bus. Mark Robson has been one of the lower profile regulars in Bracketology going 1-2 over the last few years. He has a chance to even the record up here with a KARLOFF led proto “elevated” horror about the mistreatment of the mentally ill or something. Actually reviews are a bit polarizing with some feeling its not that interesting or horror, but that’s kind of the vibe of the time and Val Lewton flicks. You either feel them or you don’t, right? But lots of people feel Kiyoshi Kurosawa even though he hasn’t had the best luck in Bracketology going 0-4. He now has the unfortunate chance to become the first 0-5 director in Bracketology history if he can’t pull off a win with Sweet Home. A film that seems most notable for being a kind of joint production with a video game that was basically the prototype for Resident Evil? That’s interesting at least. Interesting enough to beat out Robson and Lewton and end his losing streak? Guess we’ll have to watch and see. And maybe for funsies I’ll finally play Resident Evil. Bedlam is available for streaming on The Internet Archive Sweet Home is available for streaming on Youtube That’s our week! Hopefully I didn’t screw everything up this week. Hopefully we put together a more interesting lineup to draw a crowd this week. We got another weird mix of films and deep cuts. Its one of those weeks of movies I can’t imagine pulling together without Bracketology and with maybe 4 new films to most. Seems like a pretty open competition to see who moves forward. Should be fun. As always the goal is to just have fun and watch what you want. We try and make sure every film is reasonably available, some are a little harder to find than others and not everyone has the right streaming services so if you need help finding any of the films ask and help might be right around the corner. It will. I have the movies. Just ask. You can vote in this round until 12 noon EST Feb 5th (or when I get to it) Next Week! 3. Wes Craven vs. 11. The Rage Virus 5. #ThrowbackThursday vs. 13. Puberty Sucks Spreadsheet Letterboxd List STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jan 29, 2024 |
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In my memory, Sweet Home has a solid ending but it's a slog to get there.
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Watching Dementia, I wonder if it will pass the "is it actually horror" test for other people, but I really liked it. It's plain as paint that the director John Parker had a strong vison that he needed to share, especially considering that he never made another film. The flashback scene in the graveyard was the best example, bringing a living room furniture set and dumping it outside.
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I'm glad that lamp didn't catch fire.
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I really do enjoy 80s adult anime like Wicked City, but man they all seem to have like those two or three scenes where you really wish they just wouldn't go there. Wicked City is no exception, but it had some genuinely creepy stuff and some great designs and ideas for the demons. I did enjoy it overall.
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I love Ninja Scroll, and my Wicked City review is basically "I'm glad he got it out of his system before he made Ninja Scroll".
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Yea I love Ninja Scroll and used to regularly get high and watch it in my college dorm room, but even Ninja Scroll has some stuff that I'd probably want to warn someone about if I was recommending it to them.
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I'm going with sweet home over bedlam. Bedlam was decent but too quaint
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Halfway through Wicked City. I thought you were kidding about the tentacle rape stuff cuz it's just anime. This movie is just pure horny. It's not Overfiend horny yet, but probably about as close as I've seen so far.
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Basebf555 posted:Yea I love Ninja Scroll and used to regularly get high and watch it in my college dorm room, but even Ninja Scroll has some stuff that I'd probably want to warn someone about if I was recommending it to them. Oh yeah, definitely. Vagina-based weaponry and sexual assaults are part of both movies, but Ninja Scroll just has way less (and way more of rad monster fights)
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Dementia vs. Wicked City: 9/10 vs. 6/10 Bedlam vs. Sweet Home: 7/10 vs. 8/10 One of these matches was a much easier call. To be honest, it had been a long time since I'd last watched Wicked City, and I'd forgotten most of the content aside from that (still) great jazzy score. The animation looks very nice as well, but the content... Ehhhhhhhhhhhh. Meanwhile, Dementia was just fantastic, and really deserves more acclaim. Why the hell does it not have a place in the Criterion Collection? In the other match, Bedlam was enjoyable for getting to see Karloff in relatively little make-up, and getting to do a 'real' dramatic role, but... It was so stiff and stagy. In the other corner, Sweet Home was a fairly formulaic Japanese haunted house story, but one with superb special effects and designs, likable characters, and some real sentimentality to it. It was interesting seeing Kiyoshi Kurosawa, whom I mostly associate with melancholic slow-burn films, doing something which seemed to be so intentionally targeting widespread appeal. It felt like a straight-faced House (1977) in more than a few regards, and that's no bad association.
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It’s Saturday and I’m keeping up my new tradition of being a late mess. But it’s ok because there’s still time for me to watch movies, vote, and do writeups. And that means there’s time for you too. I guess like 42 hours now? I dunno. I’m a mess. You can vote in this round until 12 noon EST Feb 5th (or when I get to it)
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I did like Dementia and have to say it might be the better made film in this match-up, but it didn't really grab me. I found the horror to be rather tepid. Wicked City has much lower low points. I did find it to be creepy (in multiple ways, at least one of them positive) and I might have liked the story if the last 20 minutes didn't feel tacked-on, like a story arc that was thrown in to pad out the run time. If I was recommending a film to someone, I think 8 times out of 10 I'd tell them Dementia before Wicked City. However, I'm giving the vote to Team MHN Anime thanks to the strong visual design; a lot of the grotesque body horror was quite good.
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I absolutely loved the older flicks this week. There is just something about enjoyable black and white films that gives me the warm fuzzies. Dementia was really unexpected for how psychological it came off, and the jazz club scene... It immediately gave me Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, and Muholland Drive club scene flashbacks. I don't know if the parallels are just coincidence or not, but man, this movie fit right in. Bedlam really engaged me because I enjoyed the social commentary it was pushing. The characters were all fun to watch, and Karloff was a total dick. I went in thinking Hop-Frog, but they decided on another Poe classic instead! Sweet Home was good, but it didn't grab me like the other two did. Wicked City looked so absolutely great, but man, just too much ADTRW going on for me.
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I'm convinced Lynch has seen and is influenced by Dementia
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The only movies I know for sure Lynch has seen are Sunset Blvd and The Wizard of Oz and I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s never seen any other movies than those two.
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Sweet Home was decent and felt very much of its post Evil Dead time but it sort of lost me as it went on. Bedlam isn’t super horrory but I love Val Lewton’s style and tendency to have progressive themes underlining things. Karloff is great too. So that one gets my vote fairly easy. I haven’t watched Dementia but it doesn’t have to work very hard to beat Wicked City for me. Needless to say I hated that.
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Wicked City is dumb and bad and embarrassing to watch. The background art is nice, I’ll give it that. Dementia on the other hand is real cool all around but even a stinker would have won. Sweet Home doesn’t really have much going on plotwise, but the SFX are really impressive. The goop levels are off the chart. And the amount of emotional expression they got into that monster puppet, wow! Absolutely makes up for the weird beginning. The soundtrack kept screaming video game at me, which in retrospect makes sense. Bedlam is a really enjoyable watch, but it’s just not horror. I’d have gladly voted for it if it had been up against Wicked City of course.
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I voted Bedlam just because the team is more my thing overall and I always have a hard time voting against Karloff no matter the circumstances.
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“Or when I get to it” really doing a lot of work this year.  We have our first tie of 2024! While people were generally positive on Robson’s Bedlam it was routinely criticized for not being horror enough. And that gave enough opening for Kurosawa’s deridingly horror haunted house movie Sweet Home to split the field and force a tie. And that keeps Kurosawa from becoming the first ever 0-5 director although he could still go 0-5-1 as we’ll roll back him and the Lewton Bus next week. And their opponent will be Sam's I Ain't Never Seen This Before team as Dementia rolled past Wicked City with a dominant win hopefully guaranteeing I won’t have to watch another anime film until 2025. That’s the last of our first round matchups in Svengoolie’s Dungeon so its on to the second round and to see which of our returning winners will advance into the Sweet Sixteen and which will just be also rans. 3. Wes Craven’s Deadly Friend vs. 11. 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It seems like it might be a crowdpleaser for those who enjoy the macabre weird experimental stuff that doesn’t necessarily make sense but also might be frustrating compared to the relatively simple camp trash competition of killer robots? I’ve been hoping it was Wes’ year but this one is a hurdle for him but if he can make it past it he might be on track. Or can Boyle lead his Rage team one step further to glory? Deadly Friend is out there and available upon request. Trance is available to stream on Hulu. 5. (Sam’s #ThrowbackThursday) Ti West’s The Innkeepers vs. 13. (Kangra’s Puberty Sucks) Paul Weitz’s Cirque du Freak: The Vampire’s Assistant  Svengoolie is back with his puppet doppelgänger Sventoonie and joining the returning week of .500 directors is Ti West. He’s 2-2 in Bracketology so far and while he’s had a career resurgence lately with films like X and Pearl this brings us back to his first run of success with the very moody slow burn films like House of the Devil. And that style is polarizing for sure as some people vibe well with the mood and some just find it dull. Innkeepers is probably the most finely tuned test of that as its ALL mood and build really. And rounding out our week is Paul Weitz, the only directer we haven’t seen in Bracketology before as he’s more known for films like American Pie, About a Boy, and Little Fockers. A curious career for sure when you add a YA novel adaption about a freaky monster mashup world of some kind? This one was on my YA team I meant to bring back this year but it gets a go regardless and while reviews are generally pretty poor for it there’s a stacked cast of familiar names and a certain “something you watch on a lazy weekend afternoon” vibe that seems to come off the reviews. Could that casual quasi campiness win out over the slow moving West film? Or can West move his team one step further into the Sweet Sixteen? The Innkeepers is available to stream on Freevee, Kanopy, Peacock, Plex, Pluto, Screambox, Roku, and Tubi. Cirque du Freak: The Vampire’s Assitant is out there and available upon request. That’s our week. We got a lot of familiar names this week but maybe not familiar films. Or maybe films we haven’t seen in awhile. Or maybe a YA franchise starter that bombed from that era when there were tons of those? Its another weird combination of films and interesting double features if you watch them that way. And its our first second round matchup so the winners are headed to the Sweet Sixteen in the summer and a real path to the end. And the losers are just going home disappointed. As always the goal is to just have fun and watch what you want. We try and make sure every film is reasonably available, some are a little harder to find than others and not everyone has the right streaming services so if you need help finding any of the films ask and help might be right around the corner. It will. I have the movies. Just ask. You can vote in this round until 12 noon EST Feb 12th (or when I get to it) Next Week! 1. I Ain't Never Seen This Before vs. 8. Lewton Bus vs. 9. Kiyoshi Kurosawa 7. Bracketology Redux vs. 15. Team Fresh Styles Spreadsheet Letterboxd List STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Feb 5, 2024 |
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I'm obviously biased here, but Inkeepers vs Cirque Du Freak couldn't be an easier choice. Innkeepers is one of those movies that I showed to friends all the time, and not only is Cirque bad, it has the added insult of being a bad adaptation of a book that I absolutely loved when I was 11.
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Innkeepers is such a nice and chill horror movie. Hard to beat for most movies if you ask me.
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Deadly Friend vs. Trance: 6/10 vs. 7/10 The Innkeepers vs. Cirque du Freak: The Vampire’s Assistant: 8/10 vs. 6/10 Even though I have Deadly Friend rated lower than Trance, Deadly Friend is the one getting my vote in that match, because it's the one I would actually want to rewatch at some point. Trance was a lot of twists in service of a plot which lost my interest about a third of the way into the film. The Innkeepers gets my vote in the other match, because as fun as it was seeing John C. Reilly and Willem Dafoe as kooky vampires, and to have a YA fiction film adaptation that was willing to let its characters swear... CdF:TVA was too busy trying to set things up for sequels to really have much substance of its own, beyond the basic plot beats. Good cast, always glad to see Orlando Jones show up in something, but it couldn't hold a candle to the focused build of The Innkeepers.
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Darthemed posted:
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The opening of Deadly Friend with BB's little nervous goblin noises had Moomin Dreams and I absolutely rolling. Definitely better than Trance.
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There's a lot of scenarios where I'd absolutely vote against The Innkeepers. I've never been a much of a fan, for me House of the Devil was a lot better. In particular I don't think The Innkeepers has a satisfying ending, it's a slow burn with almost no payoff. It's well shot and well made overall though, which is why I'm forced to vote for it in this matchup.
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I think I'm going to go with Deadly Friend over Trance as well, even though I also rated Trance higher. Deadly Friend does feel like one of those movies if a friend wanted to watch it, I'd be fine with it. But if they wanted to watch Trance I'd tell them nah. The Innkeepers was pretty awesome. I really enjoyed that one. I feel bad about the ending, but that's part of why I dug it so much. Cirque was alright, not terrible or anything, but it's not on the same level as The Innkeepers. I didn't see the appeal of John C. Reilly here. He would be the last person I'd ever imagine being an old rear end vampire. I think I just see him doing too many doofy things elsewhere to take him seriously.
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Draculane, Mr. Draculane...
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Basebf555 posted:There's a lot of scenarios where I'd absolutely vote against The Innkeepers. I've never been a much of a fan, for me House of the Devil was a lot better. In particular I don't think The Innkeepers has a satisfying ending, it's a slow burn with almost no payoff. It's well shot and well made overall though, which is why I'm forced to vote for it in this matchup. Glad you said this, sometimes feel like I’m the only one generally underwhelmed by The Innkeepers. It just kinda bored me. And I also adore House of the Devil. But yeah, it’s certainly not a badly made film but I always feel a little crazy when ppl are gushing over Innkeepers. Deadly Friend is a lot of fun and Trance is one of those films where I’m happy for anyone who digs it but I’m good lol
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