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Where We’re At: 3. (Goat’s Horror Noire) Ernest R. Dickerson’s Tales From the Crypt: Demon Knight vs. 14. (Basebf’s Always Back The Drac) Édouard Molinaro’s Dracula and Son 6. (Weapon X’s In Space No One Can Hear You Stream) Jason Eisener’s Hobo With A Shotgun vs. 11. Lucio Fulci’s Voices from Beyond You can vote in this round until 12 noon EST May 6th (or when I get to it) Next Week! 2. The Zombie Brothers vs. 15. John Carl Buechler 7. Chucky and His Pals vs. 10. Monsters, Monsters, and More Monsters ---------------------------------------------- I'm sick, I'm in pain, I'm exhausted... but I'm still nuts so doing this. Ok, we're back. I'm running late on this since the last few weeks have been hell for me and I'm recovering from a cold and just general exhaustion. But I gotta get this started. I'm also gonna try and simplify this and make it less completely insane seeming. I'll do my best. For anyone new or previously scared off by this, fear not. Its actually much simpler than it seems. We put together a tournament bracket of teams of films/directors and through the first 9 months of 2024 I'll just draw 4 new films each week that we'll watch, discuss, and vote on. Its that simple and you can participate as much or little as you want. Just come around every week for the new movies when you want to. The complicated part happens now as we make up our bracket. To state it simply we nominate individual directors and teams of directors and then vote to see who makes the cut. The teams are made up by posters using directors who don't have enough movies of their own or to feed some kind of theme. Basically a director needs 6 movies or he has to be on a team. And we don't reuse movies so the 575 films we've watched the last 4 years aren't eligible. So far two solo directors (Ken Russell and John Carpenter) and two teams (twernt's Spooky Swinging Sixties and MacheteZombie’s The One n Dones) have won so its anyone’s game really. Ok, this is the complicated part. Nominations Everyone is free to nominate any solo director with 6 or more movies at any time. Anyone who had teams in last year’s tournament can renominate up to 5 teams at any time. Once we start our “draft” posters can nominate new teams or add to existing teams once a day. Is that simple enough? Teams can be any number of directors who have 6 movies with a soft cap of 10. By “soft” i mean if your idea takes you over it and no one objects then its cool. But we’re trying not to hoard movies/directors so there is a limit. Any movies drawn in past tourneys are ineligible. You can find these movies on the spreadsheet or Letterboxd Master List, links at the bottom of this post. We play loose with what defines a “horror”. Thrillers are allowed and if you feel strongly about something else then we’ll let voting decide. Generally if you don’t give me a list of movies I’ll go by what Letterboxd lists as horror but that’s pretty arbitrary. Anthologies and short films are a grey area. You can include them if you want but you don’t need to. If a film is unreleased, lost, or otherwise impossible to watch you can skip it. Does that make sense? I can expand as I have in past years but I think consensus is I tend to over do it and make it too confusing. Hopefully this is simpler and easier to digest and less intimidating. In past years we had a “council” of posters who would grant byes to nominees. Last year someone suggested we give one bye to everyone who nominates a team so I’m doing that this year. No council, but if you nominate a team or director then you can pick a nominee to get a bye into the tournament past the initial voting process. You can give that bye to anyone including your own team and at any time before the voting begins. I’ll keep a list of everyone here. Byes STAC Goat - Wes Craven Darthemed - Ratno Timoer Kangra - Team Japanese Whimsy twernt - Wyrd Woods and Macabre Magick married but discreet - Takashi Miike Basebf555 - The Magical Muppet Wizardry of Jim Henson and Friends Class3KillStorm - Steve's Monster Blockbusters Weapon X - The Zombie Brothers Samfucius - I Ain't Never Seen This Before And finally our first entry into the tournament was decided by the HalloweeNIT and its married but discreet’s Older Than America team. So that’s 1 slot down and 63 to go. I hope all this makes sense but if you any questions simply ask. Important Dates Subject to change
2020: Franchise Tournament Thread / Franchise Letterboxd List / Directors Tournament Thread / Directors Letterboxd List 2021: Thread / Spreadsheet / Letterboxd List / HalloweeNIT Letterboxd List 2022: Thread / Spreadsheet / Letterboxd List / HalloweeNIT Letterboxd List 2023: Thread / Spreadsheet / Letterboxd List / HalloweeNIT ’23 Letterboxd List 2024: Thread / Spreadsheet / Letterboxd List Cumulative: Letterboxd Master List STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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Reserved for something I haven't thought of yet.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 14:34 |
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In the name of illustration I'll start the nominations again. John Carpenter got his win last year so maybe its Wes' turn. Wes Craven Scream A Nightmare on Elm Street Scream 2 Scream 4 Scream 3 New Nightmare The Hills Have Eyes The Serpent and The Rainbow Swamp Thing Vampire in Brooklyn My Soul to Take Deadly Blessing Deadly Friend Chiller Invitation to Hell
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 14:47 |
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Gonna break with my tradition of opening with a David DeCoteau nomination by nominating Fred Olen Ray instead. Films: a bunch, a whole bunch, quite a few, and a lot
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 18:04 |
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Solo director nomination: Noboru Iguchi Films: The Machine Girl Dead Sushi Zombie rear end: Toilet of the Dead RoboGeisha Tomie: Unlimited Ghost Squad Nuigulumar Z Sukeban Boy Raining Blood Kazuo Umezu’s Horror Theater: Snake Girl Cat-Eyed Boy A Larva to Love The World YAMIZUKAN IDOL NEVER DiES Tales of Terror: Gi Those are all of his films as the sole director. He’s also contributed to anthology films (e.g., The ABCs of Death), but also some multi-director full-length features (e.g., Mutant Girls Squad). Could we go ahead and get a ruling on how those latter types of films should be handled in nominations?
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 18:13 |
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Darthemed posted:Those are all of his films as the sole director. He’s also contributed to anthology films (e.g., The ABCs of Death), but also some multi-director full-length features (e.g., Mutant Girls Squad). Could we go ahead and get a ruling on how those latter types of films should be handled in nominations? The way we did it last year it’s your call. If you think it’s representative of the director’s work then you can include it. If it’s one 3 minute entry of a 25 bit film. Well that’s your call. But I’d say as always follow your judgment and listen if anyone objects.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 18:41 |
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Renominating Koreans Gone Global - Korean directors who've achieved a fair bit of international recognition. Bong Joon-Ho Mother Park Chan-Wook The Handmaiden Stoker Yeon Sang-Ho The King of Pigs Seoul Station Train to Busan Lee Chang-Dong Burning I don't think any of these have any new horror (unless Decision to Leave counts; I haven’t seen it.)
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 22:28 |
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Hello spook-a-doodles! I'd like to renominate Ishirō Honda who still has a bunch of films left. Matango The H Man War of the Gargantuans King Kong Escapes Destroy All Monsters Mothra vs Godzilla Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster Invasion of Astro-Monster Terror of Mechagodzilla All Monsters Attack Mothra Frankenstein vs. Baragon The Mysterians Atragon Battle in Outer Space Dagora, the Space Monster Latitude Zero Gorath
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 01:38 |
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Edit: As usual I nominate Takashi Miike married but discreet fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Ok here are 4 team renominations. Didn't check if they still have enough movies, but it looks like Goat did? THE INSANE BRUTALITY OF LOVE Czech This Out (Czechoslovakian New Wave) Life Affirming Austrians Neue Deutsche Filme Directors: Ngai Choi Lam Claudio Fragasso Hasan Karacadağ
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 13:13 |
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married but discreet posted:Ok here are 4 team renominations. Didn't check if they still have enough movies, but it looks like Goat did? All your teams seem to have enough based on what's left over from last year (but yes you can still add to then, once a day when the "draft" starts). But Ngai Choi Larn seems to be down to 5 listed horrors after last year.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 14:36 |
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I am re-nominating Steve's Monster Blockbusters. This thing needs some popcorn blockbusters to mix things up a little bit. Also a heads up, I will NOT be re-nominating Tales From the Necronomicon, therefore Sam Raimi, Stuart Gordon, and Michele Soavi will be up for grabs. Of course, they all have somewhat limited selections left, but there's some good stuff still to be had(Soavi still has The Church, Raimi has Evil Dead) Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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I'd like to renominate these teams and see if I can cook up a fifth one at some point. * Tamil Terrors * Wyrd Woods and Macabre Magick * Team Sharksploitation * The Return of the Bride of the Remake's Ghost!
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 17:20 |
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Gonna re-nominate my team "Chucky and His Pals", starring the works of Tom "I'm not Spider-Man" Holland, John Lafia, Ronny Yu and Don Mancini. I'm pretty sure that they still have 6 films to nominate between them, even if a couple of the bigger guns have been used already.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 19:54 |
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Renominated teams: Team Drowning in Atmosphere (Curious Stories, Crooked Symbols is the used-up entry) Team Australian Aberration Team Metro Noir Horror Anime Team Desperation Boils Over And from back in 2022, Team Low-Budget But Lovable Also nominating Ataru Oikawa as a solo director. Films: Tomie The Groaning Drain Tokyo Psycho Tomie: Beginning Tomie: Revenge Apartment 1303 Shrill Cries of Summer 9 + 1 Shrill Cries: Reshuffle Shojyo Senso
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# ? Dec 6, 2023 02:34 |
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I’m pushing back the start time of the “draft” portion until the 7th. Just to give people more time to catch up. I’m rushing this faster than I’d like but there’s a bit of a time crunch for a week of noms, a week of voting, and a week for me to put everything together. And I’m dragging hard due to real life stuff so I don’t want to crunch things too much. But it feels like people are trickling in so I want to give them a bit more time.
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# ? Dec 6, 2023 04:10 |
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I'm adding to the renominations: Puberty Sucks - Jimmy Huston, Mary Harron, Michael O’ Shea, Paul Weitz, Wolfgang Groos Echoes of War - Antti-Jussi Annila, Babak Anvari, Kristijan Milic, Kong Su-chang, Jayro Bustamante Undying Love - Kamal Amrohi, Jim Jarmusch, Walter Stocker , Ben & Chris Blaine, Kristoffer Tabori, Fred Burnley They are most likely going to get adjusted later, so I'm not giving the full listing for each one yet. I just wanted to reserve some of them. Also a solo nom for Dan Curtis (of Dark Shadows and Trilogy of Terror fame) Kangra fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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More solo director nominations. Koji Shiraishi Films: more than I want to type out Kiyoshi Kurosawa Films: Sweet Home The Guard from the Underground Door III Pulse Kazuo Umezu’s Horror Theater: House of Bugs Retribution Creepy Daguerrotype Ruggero Deodato Films: Cannibal Holocaust House on the Edge of the Park Body Count Cut and Run The Washing Machine Phantom of Death Dial: Help Ballad in Blood Franck Khalfoun Films: Maniac P2 Amityville: The Awakening Night of the Hunted Prey i-Lived Hideo Nakata Films: Curse, Death & Spirit Don't Look Up Ring Ring 2 Dark Water The Ring Two Kaidan The Incite Mill The Complex Ghost Theater White Lily The Woman Who Keeps a Murderer Sadako Stigmatized Properties It's in the Woods The Forbidden Play Adrián Garcia Bogliano Films: Rooms for Tourists Scream at Night 36 Steps I’ll Never Die Alone Cold Sweat Here Comes the Devil Late Phases Evil Games Black Circle Come Play With Me The Exorcist Darthemed fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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Ok Renominating some teams - The Magical Muppet Wizardry of Jim Henson and Friends (Jim Henson, Joe Dante, Frank Oz, Kirk R. Thatcher, Karl Holt, Bill Watterson, Lisa Ovies, and Walter Murch) Labyrinth Gremlins Little Shop of Horrors The Stepford Wives Muppets Haunted Mansion Dave Made a Maze Puppet Killer Benny Loves You - All Hail Stephen King (Stephen King, Ralph S. Singleton, Rob Reiner, Taylor Hackford, Fraser Clarke Heston, and John Lee Hancock) Maximum Overdrive Graveyard Shift Misery Dolores Claiborne Needful Things Mr. Harrington's Phone - Guillermo del Toro’s Cabinet of Curiosities (Guillermo del Toro, André Øvredal, JA Bayone, and David Prior) Cronos Crimson Peak Hellboy II: The Golden Army Pacific Rim Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom The Empty Man The Autopsy Adding The Voyage of the Demeter to Ovredal’s filmography - Horror Noire (Paul Maslansky, Ernest R. Dickerson, Rusty Cundieff, J.D. Dillard, Nia DaCosta, Mariama Diallo, and Jordan Peele) Nope Candyman (2021) Tales from the Hood Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight Dr. Black, Mr. Hyde Sugar Hill Sweetheart Master - Ladies Night (Emerald Fennell, Natalie Erika James, Jill Gevargizian, Mimi Cave, and Coralie Fargeat) Promising Young Woman Relic The Stylist Revenge Fresh Gonna need a lot of adds but locking those ones in for now. Also adding Fennell’s Saltburn
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# ? Dec 6, 2023 16:35 |
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Renominating my teams from last year 100% Found Footage Oren Peli Paranormal Activity Area 51 Bobcat Goldthwait Willow Creek Joseph and Vanessa Winter Deadstream Josh Trank Chronicle Scott Glosserman Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon Stephen Cognetti Hell House LLC Hell House LLC III: Lake of Fire Hell House LLC Origins: The Carmichael Manor Levan Gabriadze Unfriended Acolytes of Corman James Cameron Piranha 2: The Spawning The Terminator Aliens The Abyss Francis Ford Coppola Dracula Curtis Hanson Sweet Kill NYC Grime Connection Frank Henenlotter Basket Case Basket Case 2 Abel Ferrara Siberia Joseph Zito Bloodrage The Prowler Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter Freddy's Nightmares Stephen Hopkins A Nightmare on Elm Street 5 Predator 2 The Reaping Rachel Talalay Freddy’s Dead Ghost in the Machine (93) A Babysitters Guide to Monster Hunting Corman and NYC Grime went the furthest, Corman is down to almost all bangers (except Piranha 2 and Sweet Kill which or course will be the ones pulled). NYC Grime is pretty strong still. Also renominating John Carl Buechler and Renny Harlin WeaponX fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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I have one last overly specific team. Directors who are also responsible for various 1990s Jean Claude Van Damme action movies Tsui Hark directed Double Team (1997) and Knock Off (1998) The Butterfly Murders (1979) We're Going to Eat You (1980) Missing (2008) Ringo Lam directed Maximum Risk (1996) Victim (1999) Esprit D'amour (1983) Making Contact (1985) Peter Hyams directed Timecop (1994) and Sudden Death (1995) End of Days (1999) The Relic (1997) Roland Emmerich directed Universal Soldier (1992) Making Contact (1985) Ghost Chase (1987) And these directors if they are still eligible Sergio Martino René Cardona Freddie Francis Roy Ward Baker Terence Fisher Roy Ward Baker Lucio Fulci Tommy Wirkola Kiyoshi Kurosawa Roger Corman Lamberto Bava
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Nominating a couple more solo directors. Ratno Timoer Films: The Devil’s Sword Jungle Heat Revenge of the Ninja The Haunted House Galunggung Genie Satan’s Revenge Female Ghost Norio Tsuruta Films: Scary True Stories Scary True Stories: Night Two Scary True Stories: Realm of Spectres The Shivering Mu Experience Shin rei bideo I: Shinrei shashin-shuu Shin rei bideo II: Kyôfu taikendan-shuu A Haunted School Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi - Special 1 Ring 0 Scarecrow Premonition Dream Cruise Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi: 2008 Summer Special Orochi - Blood Ousama Game P.O.V. A Cursed Film Talk to the Dead Z Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi: 15th Anniversary Special Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi Natsu Hen 2015 Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi 2016 Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi 2017 The Perilous Internet Ring Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi: Summer Special 2022
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twernt posted:I have one last overly specific team.
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# ? Dec 7, 2023 06:19 |
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As said, draft starts 12 noon EST Dec 7th. About 11 1/2 hours from now. At that point you can nominate any team you like as long as they haven't been nominated already this year. You can add to teams you renominated from last year as well. But you can only do 1 team a day. After a week the "draft" will end and you can do as many as you wish. For now its limited to one a day so people don't hog all the directors.
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# ? Dec 7, 2023 06:23 |
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STAC Goat posted:Right now you can only nominate teams from past tournies. Just a way to retain your legacy teams. Building new teams are one a day in the "draft" starting at 12 noon EST tomorrow/today. About 12 hours from now. I can count it then as your first if you'd like. But are you including those Van Damme films? That was unclear to me. Sorry that's my misunderstanding. If this can be my first draft team that would be great. The team should not include the Van Damme films. His filmography is just the theme of the team.
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# ? Dec 7, 2023 16:57 |
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Some more solo noms Dario Argento, Charles Band, Andy Milligan, Lloyd Kaufman, Tobe Hooper
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# ? Dec 7, 2023 17:24 |
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I’m on my phone and I’m totally unprepared and still a mess irl so I’ll make my first pick simply. I’m adding Killer Klowns from Outer Space and Ernest Scared Stupid to the Henson/Muppet team.
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# ? Dec 7, 2023 19:47 |
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My sweet boy Robert Zombie is at 5 and he still has his 4 best movies! (and Superbeasto….) He has a lot of frequent collaborators but none of them directors however there is one director who has put a Rob Zombie cameo in every single one of his films, James Gunn. So I’d like to team them up as Zombie Gunn. I think Slither feels at home with Zombies filmography anyway. Rob Zombie House of 1000 Corpses Halloween The Devils Rejects Lords of Salem The Haunted World of El Superbeasto James Gunn Slither WeaponX fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Dec 8, 2023 |
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I think Zombie’s brother made a movie so I was tempted to put them together. Of course I was also tempted to team Zombie with Mike Flanagan for a laugh.
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Okay, I'm breaking apart my old 'sister/sibling act' team, and shifting them to other teams. First out is the new line-up for Puberty Sucks Wolfgang Groos is out, and they welcome John Fawcett. This makes the team thematically darker, as it gets rid of the ones that had a more comedic tone. (technically I might rename it to Puberty Bites, since it's no longer all-vampires, but I'll keep the name to avoid confusion). John Fawcett Ginger Snaps The Dark Mary Harron The Moth Diaries Jimmy Huston My Best Friend is a Vampire (aka I Was a Teenage Vampire) Final Exam Michael O’ Shea The Transfiguration Paul Weitz Cirque du Freak: The Vampire’s Assistant
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STAC Goat posted:I think Zombie’s brother made a movie so I was tempted to put them together. Of course I was also tempted to team Zombie with Mike Flanagan for a laugh. Ah didn’t know that! I was gonna do Dee Snyder but apparently he just wrote Strangeland not directed.
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# ? Dec 7, 2023 20:18 |
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Always Back The Drac John Badham - Dracula(1979) Francis Ford Coppola - Bram Stoker's Dracula George Melford - Dracula(1931) Werner Herzog - Nosferatu The Vampyre Mel Brooks - Dracula Dead and Loving It, Young Frankenstein
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Basebf555 posted:Always Back The Drac I got Coppola’s Dracula on my Corman team but this is a great idea, if anyone has a Corman protege to replace him I’ll switch
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WeaponX posted:I got Coppola’s Dracula on my Corman team but this is a great idea, if anyone has a Corman protege to replace him I’ll switch In the meantime I'll dig around and see if there's another Drac director I can use. There's a seemingly neverending well of Drac to draw from.
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# ? Dec 7, 2023 21:47 |
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Herzog’s Nosferatu was also drawn this year so not eligible. Sorry.
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# ? Dec 7, 2023 23:39 |
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Dang now that one I thought I'd checked the spreadsheet for, not sure how I missed it. I do recall now that it was picked. I'll post a reworked Drac team tomorrow.
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# ? Dec 8, 2023 01:34 |
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Nominating Team Tomie (And Pals) Minus Ataru Oikawa. Ataru Oikawa outgrew this team, with fourteen horror films of their own, so this team is comprised of every other director who's handled a Tomie film. Toshirô Inomata Tomie: Another Face Fujirô Mitsuishi Tomie: Replay Shun Nakahara Tomie: Forbidden Fruit Tomohiro Kubo Tomie vs Tomie Tomohiro Kubo, Tomoyuki Akashi, and Hideaki Yoshida Oboeteiru Tomoyuki Akashi and Kenji Nakanishi Kadokawa Mystery & Horror Tales Vol. 1 Kenji Nakanishi and Takayuki Sato Kadokawa Mystery & Horror Tales Vol. 2 Tomoyuki Akashi, Toshio Oida, and Hideaki Yoshida Kadokawa Mystery & Horror Tales Vol. 3 Kenji Nakanishi The Face Burglar Street of Gravestones I can't find much info on Street of Gravestones, so if we locate a copy and it turns out to be a short film, can I delete it in advance?
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Always Back The Drac John Badham - Dracula(1979) George Melford - Dracula(1931) Édouard Molinaro - Dracula and Son(1976) Mel Brooks - Dracula Dead and Loving It(1995), Young Frankenstein(1974) Paul Landres - The Return of Dracula(1958), The Vampire(1957)
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# ? Dec 8, 2023 15:44 |
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My other fav James Wan is under 6 films so I’d like to introduce Teamsidious- the collected films of directors in the Insidious Franchise. James Wan Saw Insidious The Conjuring The Conjuring 2 Leigh Whannel Insidious: Chapter 3 Upgrade The Invisible Man Adam Robitel The Taking of Deborah Logan Insidious: The Last Key Escape Room Escape Room: Tournament of Champions Patrick Wilson Insidious: The Red Door Feel like there is some interesting synergy between these guys. WeaponX fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Dec 9, 2023 |
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Here's a new team: A Crate of Crichton Fright Freight Obviously there's more than one big movie based on a Michael Crichton work that's not here, but trying to include them all would overload the team. This is just a sampling. Michael Crichton Westworld Coma Looker Barry Levinson Sphere The Bay Frank Marshall Congo Arachnophobia If people want to argue for any more films to put on there (Runaway? Sleepers?) I'll add them.
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