|
Psycho Landlord posted:giant voiceless statues with no mouths or actual will are well known for giving concise and clear orders on the battlefield Well, that makes sense. Krell could have been a lord though. Ariel, too. Gotrek being a lord? lol?
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 19:06
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 02:44 |
|
|
I'm also not a huge fan of most legendary heroes since so many of their skills just break the power curve with raw stats and make whatever army they are in pretty much unbeatable and the AI isn't great at using them, but Saytang looks unique enough that he'll fit a new role as long range artillery monster instead of just being some dude who can 1vs2000 a army while buffing the other 19 units with absurd stats.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 19:07
|
|
|
I am pleased to see new things and look forward to playing with new toys
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 19:07
|
|
|
I think legendary heroes are really cool but some of the choices have been really uninspired. Aekold, harry and ulrika are just the most bleh stat sticks, just souped up heroes that don't really do anything interesting and come out about the time you're already in a win-more state. I think the gold standard is gorduz, who comes out early, isn't a ridiculous beatstick, and has a skill line based around turning your early cheap low-tier goblin army into a cheaper mid-tier goblin army. Then when that's run out of usefulness, you can keep him around as a speedy beatstick.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 19:08
|
|
|
Comrade Blyatlov posted:I am pleased to see new things and look forward to playing with new toys
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 19:10
|
|
|
Onehandclapping posted:I think legendary heroes are really cool but some of the choices have been really uninspired. Aekold, harry and ulrika are just the most bleh stat sticks, just souped up heroes that don't really do anything interesting and come out about the time you're already in a win-more state. Aekold is a melee hero for a faction that otherwise doesn't get them though. He at least fills a niche.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 19:12
|
|
|
Onehandclapping posted:I think the gold standard is gorduz, who comes out early, isn't a ridiculous beatstick, and has a skill line based around turning your early cheap low-tier goblin army into a cheaper mid-tier goblin army. Then when that's run out of usefulness, you can keep him around as a speedy beatstick. From the victory conditions overhaul mod, I quite like Grimgor Ironbound that Astragoth can pick up. He's a hell of a single-model beatstick and also turns orc laborers into legit glass cannon units that act and have stats an awful lot like slayers.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 19:15
|
|
|
If you count Gotrex, Gotrex and Felix are the best legendary hero concept, you choose when to start your 20 turns of using them before they go have adventures elsewhere, no passive skills that make your army unbeatable, just good hero units with good abilities and stats. Their only flaw is that they made Gotrex a lord instead of a hero, so he just has to kind of follow your army around instead and sometimes get ambushed. Gorduz is a great concept too for a legendary hero too with buffing up lesser used units on a faction for a new playstyle in a army, but I don't have the DLC to try him out.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 19:18
|
|
|
Comrade Blyatlov posted:Aekold is a melee hero for a faction that otherwise doesn't get them though. He at least fills a niche. And Ulrika gives Kislev access to the lore of shadows, which admittedly was a lot more significant when she came out instead of after the addition of Hags.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 20:35
|
|
|
Is kind of a shame they won't really touch the Ungol/Gospodar divide but I get it, Kislev is changed. The replacement with the state/church rivalry is pretty underbaked though, just a basic points race
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 20:41
|
|
|
jokes posted:Well, that makes sense. Krell could have been a lord though. Ariel, too. Gotrek being a lord? lol? Nah I agree with this, Ariel should be a lord. Gotrek shouldn't be. Krell also shouldn't be until the nagash dlc
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 20:48
|
|
|
This update slaps, I don't know what's up with the haters. This is exactly the kind of course correction we needed. If the content doesn't appeal to you, fine, sure. But this is absolutely solid value, especially if you're part of the wait for sale crew. Can't wait to snipe big nasty chaos birb casters with winged god statue.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:14
|
|
|
yeah this is all lookin good. I never started that Empire campaign, got distracted with Phantom Brigade. this patch would be good to jump in with fresh eyes
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:16
|
|
|
drat, I was expecting one new unit for everyone in the DLC. My mind is boggling at the thought of an update this size basically as response to a backlash to a pretty lovely press release, and what the work must look like on the developers’ end. They also say they’re making Cathay’s statue units into constructs like the Tomb Kings. I wonder if that means they’ll remove Unbreakable from the Sentinel. Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Feb 8, 2024 |
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:22
|
|
|
I'd pay for an optimization patch at this point. Maybe it's the TOW map but getting out of battles takes forever, and I have an M.2 SSD and all that jazz
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:26
|
|
|
TaintedBalance posted:This update slaps, I don't know what's up with the haters. This is exactly the kind of course correction we needed. If the content doesn't appeal to you, fine, sure. But this is absolutely solid value, especially if you're part of the wait for sale crew. Can't wait to snipe big nasty chaos birb casters with winged god statue. Bitchers gonna bitch
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:28
|
|
|
jokes posted:I'd pay for an optimization patch at this point. Maybe it's the TOW map but getting out of battles takes forever, and I have an M.2 SSD and all that jazz Yup. Maybe they're just at the limit of how good they can make it, or they're saving a second use of their Load Time Fix spell for the next PR fail
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:30
|
|
|
TaintedBalance posted:This update slaps, I don't know what's up with the haters. This is exactly the kind of course correction we needed. If the content doesn't appeal to you, fine, sure. But this is absolutely solid value, especially if you're part of the wait for sale crew. Can't wait to snipe big nasty chaos birb casters with winged god statue. Does this correction change the price of the DLC to equal the same content as the chaos dwarf DLC Was the chaos dwarf DLC overpriced
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:32
|
|
|
jokes posted:Well, that makes sense. Krell could have been a lord though. Ariel, too. Gotrek being a lord? lol? Krell needs to be a hero so he's never separated from his bro-for-unlife.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:32
|
|
|
I still don't have WH3, any chance it goes on sale with this patch or the next DLC?
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:32
|
|
|
Dolash posted:Krell needs to be a hero so he's never separated from his bro-for-unlife. Yeah, the poor old man is confused as it is already with his constant "  WHERE IS KRELL!"You found him Heinrich, you found him 
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:40
|
|
|
chris tucker looking@krell, who smells: drat he ain't gonna be in warhammer 3
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:44
|
|
|
Third World Reagan posted:Does this correction change the price of the DLC to equal the same content as the chaos dwarf DLC I don't think it matters either way? I think they've demonstrated real goodwill here. I don't need each piece of DLC to be perfectly calculated to value per dollar or whatever. I just need to feel I get a good deal for the price and most importantly that the company isn't slapping an extra $5-10 on top to test how addicted/stupid I am.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:46
|
|
|
StashAugustine posted:I still don't have WH3, any chance it goes on sale with this patch or the next DLC? Probably next dlc or major steam fest
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:52
|
|
|
Cranappleberry posted:krell, who smells glad someone else noticed!
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 21:53
|
|
|
How does Krell smell, when he has no nose?
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 22:30
|
|
|
legendary heroes are cool cause they add a bit of flavor to your armies and can be extremely valuable if you get them early enough also, its great for the ai cause it makes some of their armies actually a challenge big fan of the announced changes so far
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 22:34
|
|
|
Dammit. You guys are going to make me do yet another Kemmler game.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 22:35
|
|
|
Gonna start one right now, I haven't played VCounts in ages and Kemmler even longer.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 22:39
|
|
|
Nash posted:Dammit. You guys are going to make me do yet another Kemmler game. Every game is a Kemmler game as he is the main character of Warhammer Where's the mod to have his cart be drawn by the leaders of the last two factions you destroyed
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 22:49
|
|
|
Doomykins posted:I don't think it matters either way? I think they've demonstrated real goodwill here. I don't need each piece of DLC to be perfectly calculated to value per dollar or whatever. I just need to feel I get a good deal for the price and most importantly that the company isn't slapping an extra $5-10 on top to test how addicted/stupid I am. As long as you are ok with 20% hikes or more, yah, it doesn't matter.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 23:20
|
|
|
good content from a dead studio!!!
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 23:33
|
|
|
Me, driving past all the haters
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2024 23:45
|
|
|
Also, for a supposedly mid-February release date is soon! I'm excited for this DLC update. Seems like good additions and course corrections. And on board from Thrones of Decay too!
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2024 01:36
|
|
|
I wonder what the new Tzeentch generic lord and hero will be. I'd be okay-ish with chaos exalted heroes and chaos lords in part because those with barrier would be rather interesting, and if they had access to a lot of the Tz traits or their own special ones it could be rather interesting. And also, to be frank, I don't know what else you do? But I'd love to see a stab at something more unique. Bray-shaman could be another reuse that would fit with the tzangor and give you access to schools you normally don't, although they'd need reworked skill trees at a minimum.
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2024 02:22
|
|
|
John Mirra posted:Me, driving past all the haters lol is this from when Greasus had his speed off by an extra zero?
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2024 02:28
|
|
|
Captain Beans posted:lol is this from when Greasus had his speed off by an extra zero? Yup. When they accidently made Greasus awesome. Fortunately, he quickly went back to being boring and horrible.
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2024 02:34
|
|
|
there's supposed to be a model cap on speed but I'm not sure if the greasus model had one or a reasonable one lol. it'll display any number you buff it to but the unit will not go that speed, instead just the model max. at one point you were able to pump some unit's speed (dwarven rangers were one case, I think) to near the hundreds but they only went like 60. There was no cap on range tho or damage so trollfire torpedoes could hit units from across the map and destroy them. not sure how much splash is increased by base but there was a breakdown a few pages ago.
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2024 02:46
|
|
|
Cranappleberry posted:there's supposed to be a model cap on speed but I'm not sure if the greasus model had one or a reasonable one lol. The model cap is tied to some animation stuff I've never dug deeply into, which is part of why already fast units can get more benefit out of it, and things like chariots. Which Greasus' model quasi-is from my understanding of his model (this could be very wrong), which is why he was able to get so much benefit out of the speed. He still wasn't going the actual speed amount listed, but it was quite busted.
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2024 03:04
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 02:44 |
|
|
I haven't played WH3 since chaos dwarves came out, any big mechanics/gameplay changes since then that I should know about? Specifically in regards to how settlements should be captured?
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2024 03:58
|
|
