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There's no reason to put any effort into the "jade" weapons. They aren't being sold for 20 bux each, so just take the gold weapon shader and remove the red from the base color.
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https://twitter.com/NotSoLittleC/status/1755705709667180594 Uhhhhhhh https://twitter.com/NotSoLittleC/status/1755705726071185911 hmmmmm https://twitter.com/NotSoLittleC/status/1755705735055335427 just wow beginning to think Blizzard might be trash https://twitter.com/NotSoLittleC/status/1755705720991818214 https://twitter.com/NotSoLittleC/status/1755705741845926073
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You left out the surprise 3-month non-compete they dropped on him last minute https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1755705709667180594.html
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AndyElusive posted:Green! Your guns get to be green. or possibly your finger.
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Sockser posted:You left out the surprise 3-month non-compete they dropped on him last minute Well I'm sure the individuals responsible for this bait-and-switch are no longer with the company, especially after this most recent round of layoffs. Right? Right?
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Blizzard sounds like a terrible company, drat. Also a good lesson that HR is never your friend. They are there for the company only. This goes for every HR department everywhere.
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Codependent Poster posted:Blizzard sounds like a terrible company, drat. HR is like Cops, even if they want to help you out the system is stacked against it.
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socialsecurity posted:HR is like Cops, even if they want to help you out the system is stacked against it. And the good ones get run out. Blizzard used to be my favorite game company, just non-stop quality and fun games for years and years, until Kotick 'The enshittifier supreme' Kotick jammed his greasy thumb into the works. Wishing him the worst!
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I have to completely rewire my pharah brain after this rework
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I've only played a little but I already feel like dps are more dangerous
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I played 3 matches this morning - on All Roles because the DPS queue was 5 + mins - so of course I got tank in all 3. And yeah, you really notice that A) everything is harder to kill when you're on tank, except B) yourself when there are DPS shooting at you. I did notice that the support elims in all 3 games were lower than what I'm used to seeing, maybe another result of this patch? But the big takeaway is that tank can still feel pretty miserable to play so I think that's going to be a long term problem.
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perhaps this problem could be fixed by adding a second tank to each team to split up the damage taken. thoughts?
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Played 4 games with my partner tonight, and went 3 and 1. I was DPS/Support. Overall, games seem to move faster now. The fights, once they start, don't get drawn out forever. DPS feel like they can make an impact, and a support is only prolonging a fight, not extending it out to infinity. As a hitscan on soldier, it did feel like I was much more consistent with my shots than previously. My average on soldier is 33% (profile), and I hit 44% in a game tonight without being super warmed up on him or anything. Rawrbomb fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Feb 14, 2024 |
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The only tank that I think benefitted from the patch was Junker Queen, just because she relies so heavily on landing her knife and its hitbox feels much bigger now. But tanks are definitely the big losers of the update
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Haha, goddamn 'just aims in general vicinity, kills'. Going to give it a spin later tonight but not optimistic about any of this and right on the heels of Blizzard killing off my favorite Hearthstone mode.
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I decided to try zen after not playing him for years, and he crushes right now. Balls so big. e: I dunno about this "reset". It gravitated right back where my MMR was in a few games. headcase fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Feb 14, 2024 |
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It certainly has captured the 2016 overwatch vibe of every comp game having someone losing it over mic while an enemy Hanzo gets 49 elims
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The hitboxes are laughable now. Sure blizzard, that will fix the game you've run UNDER the ground. Make everything easier to hit! But harder to kill. That will make it feel better; the reason people don't like your game is because they suck, and want to hit, but not kill things.
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that's because they're doing drops and promoted streams rn
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So, Hanzo can insta-kill people that are fully behind cover, again, just like he could at the beginning of OW1?
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Herstory Begins Now posted:that's because they're doing drops and promoted streams rn I mean I guess you gotta do something with that marketing budget
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comedyblissoption posted:kind of insane to me they didn't just reduce the instantaneous acceleration i think their logic is that movement feeling gummier is going to be way more noticeable and aggravating compared to the occasional air headshot, since one is active all the time and the other is comparatively rare (or at least harder to tell)
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the drops are for a Legendary skin from the first season (Cyberpunk Zen) which is a pretty great drop but also is set at 12 hours so I'm not at all surprised they're top on Twitch (I've got it open in a muted tab myself)
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These projectile size changes are loving awful. I hope they revert them.
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Vermain posted:i think their logic is that movement feeling gummier is going to be way more noticeable and aggravating compared to the occasional air headshot, since one is active all the time and the other is comparatively rare (or at least harder to tell) game doesn't have to feel like 2d megaman
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I suspect that I know exactly why they've made these changes, and why they haven't stated exactly why they've made these changes but talked around it and offered a bunch of justifications that sound a little off to anyone who knows the rudiments of the game. Or what the game used to be. It's as simple as this: going F2P brought in absolute hordes of new players to a game that is extremely complex and mechanically demanding to play in the way it was originally designed to be played. Those new players are very, very bad at the game. I remember seeing early on that the devs were shocked by how many people are Bronze 5 or technically, lower, if they could be, and are not improving or ever likely will. But they like the game because appealing characters and fun abilities and movement feels good. The superficial level is great. They can't segregate these people off reliably because queue times are the holy grail and they know to a fine art what queue times they have to optimise for to meet gamer psychology. There have been a bunch of studies done on this. People say they want close matches but the reality is that most people look at other games if the queue times blow out to where they would need to be to make properly close matches. So, they don't make close matches. They make "probably playable" matches that are wildly imbalanced. (I also believe - based on my own recording of games for a long time, and the anecdotal similarities of other players' experiences) that they swing it vaguely towards "this guy lost a bunch in unfavourable matches, so now allocate him favourable matches for a bit." That's speculation on my part but it fits what I've seen. So - what do you do when you have a game where matches are being almost crippled by having a glut of players who can't play? Can't aim, can't position, can't group, don't understand ability mechanics or timing? You don't want those players to get discouraged by not being able to do anything in a match and dying over and over and losing game after game after game. They might not spend money on cosmetics if that happens. So, you patch the game to make all those things less relevant so that they don't impact matches as much. You make it so that people get punished less for their mistakes but one team will still eventually win the fight through sheer attrition, and the whole time all those people feel like they're doing something. Look! Hit markers! I pushed a button and a thing happened! I didn't need to aim or be clever with it and that guy who can aim and be clever with his abilities didn't really get much advantage over me! E: And to clarify my original point, the reason they can't just come out and state this is that they can't tell the player base "We are making these changes because you are, on average, very bad to terrible at the game. You're not even good enough to understand that you're bad, let alone why. So we're putting padding on all the sharp edges in case you trip while you're toddling around doing shootmans." Because no-one wants to hear that. They want to feel like they're surprisingly good at the game. And spend money on the new skin for their favorite guy. SadisTech fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Feb 14, 2024 |
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I was trying to put my finger on the gamefeel now - it's like being on painkillers. Everything is numb and soft. I was playing Hog in QP and he feels like a wet paper bag.SadisTech posted:Smart words So it's for people with controllers, basically.
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SadisTech posted:(I also believe - based on my own recording of games for a long time, and the anecdotal similarities of other players' experiences) that they swing it vaguely towards "this guy lost a bunch in unfavourable matches, so now allocate him favourable matches for a bit." That's speculation on my part but it fits what I've seen. When you lose a bunch, your internal MMR goes down, so you get matched agasint "less good" players, so you're more likely to win. This isn't some grand conspiracy. YOu win, games get harder. You lose, games get easier. One of my games last night, was more or less a 4v5, with my team only having 4 players. I'm the soldier, and my duo is with me as moria. After the first few engagements, said something in chat about it, as nicely-but-slighty-salty, like hey we need you to help. Anyway, the second support stopped dumping resources into them, and the game got better.
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Rawrbomb posted:When you lose a bunch, your internal MMR goes down, so you get matched agasint "less good" players, so you're more likely to win. This isn't some grand conspiracy. YOu win, games get harder. You lose, games get easier. I've already responded to this exact argument a couple of times upthread and to put it politely, no. Bullshit. Your MMR adjustment does not cause you to pivot sharply every 5-7 games from "getting your gently caress stomped in" to "stomping the other team's gently caress in". I'm not interested in relitigating it but this is not even close to the observable mechanism in play.
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Sloppy posted:I was trying to put my finger on the gamefeel now - it's like being on painkillers. Everything is numb and soft. I was playing Hog in QP and he feels like a wet paper bag. Just how right you are... I have a few friends who play on console and they are RAVING about how good this patch feels. Some direct quotes: "I'm playing a few atm DPS projectile especially is way better Hanzo is playable again" "I thought I'd see a bit more improvement out of ana and ilari tbh they're still not great to have on team" "Torb feels super consistent, Widow feels threatening again as well" E: this is from Diamond - Masters on Xbox fwiw. It is a different world SadisTech fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Feb 14, 2024 |
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SadisTech posted:I've already responded to this exact argument a couple of times upthread and to put it politely, no. Bullshit. Your MMR adjustment does not cause you to pivot sharply every 5-7 games from "getting your gently caress stomped in" to "stomping the other team's gently caress in". I'm not interested in relitigating it but this is not even close to the observable mechanism in play. I second this. My match history had a clear pattern of lose streak - win streak - lose streak - win streak and after of a few months of that I got completely sick of it and I haven't played since.
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SadisTech posted:I've already responded to this exact argument a couple of times upthread and to put it politely, no. Bullshit. Your MMR adjustment does not cause you to pivot sharply every 5-7 games from "getting your gently caress stomped in" to "stomping the other team's gently caress in". I'm not interested in relitigating it but this is not even close to the observable mechanism in play. Your own feelings are not confirmation, they are bias. Yes, when you go on a lose streak, you can go down a lot of internal MMR, at least a hundred points if we're talking 5-7 games. That's enough of a change in the MMR that the group composition changes, and now you're in a better position. Like, for whatever reason, sometimes even if you should win on paper, the people on your team are not on their best game, or they're one tricking, or whatever. Sometimes you get a team mate, who isn't supposed to be in your match like from my screenshot above. That person was not correctly ranked for the game we were playing in QP. They walked out of spawn 12 times, most of the time they'd do nothing besides walk back. Jack Trades posted:I second this. Maybe you're just worse than you think?
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Rawrbomb posted:Your own feelings are not confirmation, they are bias. Yes, when you go on a lose streak, you can go down a lot of internal MMR, at least a hundred points if we're talking 5-7 games. That's enough of a change in the MMR that the group composition changes, and now you're in a better position. Random factors won't create a regular pattern and if they're just worse than they think then shouldn't the matchmaker simply put them on a lower rank that will actually result in roughly 50/50 games and not win/lose streaks? Rawrbomb posted:Maybe you're just worse than you think? Ok? Then put me at a lower rank. Me being worse than I think still doesn't explain constant streaks.
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