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why does the sonic franchise have a "plot" while mario never bothered
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Feb 8, 2024 20:11
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Nichael posted:Will Madame Web be funny bad or boring bad? it looks like a CW tv show e: sonic has always had continuity, someone didnt play generations
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Feb 8, 2024 20:14
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Kraven will be good
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Feb 8, 2024 20:17
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MLKQUOTEMACHINE posted:e: sonic has always had continuity, someone didnt read Ken Penders Magnum Opus
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Feb 8, 2024 20:17
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Nichael posted:why does the sonic franchise have a "plot" while mario never bothered Shigeru Miyamoto is a toymaker who deeply resents the idea that games should have stories.
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Feb 8, 2024 20:18
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how did the sonic franchise get a "serious" plot though? is it just furries?
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Feb 8, 2024 20:19
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I think there's a certain blindness to people who don't actually like superheroes to why concepts like the Marvels and Eternals are dull and come off as basically vaguely superhero-flavoured white noise compared to things like a shrinking thief or a reality-twisting wizard. See the complaints about MCU finales turning into figures floating around shooting lasers at each other until one of them falls down, and Eternals and the Marvels are peak that. Nuh uh, sometimes figure float around and wind up punches at each other until one of them falls down and gives a speech. The point where I was just totally over capeshit was in the middle of Winter Soldier. Any enthusiasm I had left for that poo poo was gone right there in the theater with yet another rear end in a top hat in a costume winding up a big ol punch before he got one himself until the protagonist won.
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Feb 8, 2024 20:21
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Nichael posted:how did the sonic franchise get a "serious" plot though? is it just furries? Probably due to the Archie comic run from the early 90’s that was written by an insane lunatic named Ken Penders. I’m not sure if he is a furry though. He did manage to successfully steal the American rights to Sonic from Sega for awhile though. Archie comics is a weird company!
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Feb 8, 2024 20:27
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MacheteZombie posted:Kraven will be good would you say you’re kraven’ it
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Feb 8, 2024 20:28
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Clip-On Fedora posted:Probably due to the Archie comic run from the early 90’s that was written by an insane lunatic named Ken Penders. I’m not sure if he is a furry though. He did manage to successfully steal the American rights to Sonic from Sega for awhile though. Archie comics is a weird company! Interesting, I appreciate the sincere answer because I've always been so confused by this.
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Feb 8, 2024 20:30
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Clip-On Fedora posted:Probably due to the Archie comic run from the early 90’s that was written by an insane lunatic named Ken Penders. I’m not sure if he is a furry though. He did manage to successfully steal the American rights to Sonic from Sega for awhile though. Archie comics is a weird company! I read these for a little while when I was a kid
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Feb 8, 2024 20:30
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Clip-On Fedora posted:Probably due to the Archie comic run from the early 90’s that was written by an insane lunatic named Ken Penders. I’m not sure if he is a furry though. He did manage to successfully steal the American rights to Sonic from Sega for awhile though. Archie comics is a weird company! If I remember correctly, this is because they literally lost the relevant contracts, so when he said he had the rights to a bunch of characters, they couldn't prove he didnt.
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Feb 8, 2024 20:30
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One More Fat Nerd posted:If I remember correctly, this is because they literally lost the relevant contracts, so when he said he had the rights to a bunch of characters, they couldn't prove he didnt. ken penders stealth mission to steal the contracts from the sega filing cabinets
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Feb 8, 2024 20:32
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:would you say you’re kraven’ it If you weren't so kraven, you'd be hyped for Kraven too.
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Feb 8, 2024 20:34
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deadpool 3 will have x-men in it therfore i will watch. The X-men comics are my fav comics by like a lot, way more then the next closest Spider-Man.
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Feb 8, 2024 20:37
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loquacius posted:I read these for a little while when I was a kid Despite everything, Sonic Satam is still a cherished childhood memory.
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Feb 8, 2024 20:38
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Cael posted:there’s movies a beer or two at the theater will make an entertaining enough watch My fav of the later is Outlander, the scifi Beowulf starring Jim Caviezel Hell it might even be good sober, there's def at least one Dragonslayer reference in there
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Feb 8, 2024 20:55
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that reminds me: Outland (1981) is a great flick; it's a remake of High Noon set on a mining station on Io Sean Connery is a space sheriff with a space gun, and it has Peter Boyle. he doesn't do the frankenstein bit at any point but it would be funny if he did
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Feb 8, 2024 21:14
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Nichael posted:Will Madame Web be funny bad or boring bad? Boring bad. All of those films have been boring bad.
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Feb 8, 2024 23:17
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Gumball Gumption posted:Boring bad. All of those films have been boring bad. Yeah, Morbius wasnt funny bad, but execs taking the Morbmentum memes seriously and re-releasing it was very funny
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Feb 9, 2024 01:15
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One More Fat Nerd posted:Yeah, Morbius wasnt funny bad, but execs taking the Morbmentum memes seriously and re-releasing it was very funny
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Feb 9, 2024 01:15
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One More Fat Nerd posted:Yeah, Morbius wasnt funny bad, but execs taking the Morbmentum memes seriously and re-releasing it was very funny "The internet can't stop talking about Kingo"
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Feb 9, 2024 01:17
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One More Fat Nerd posted:Yeah, Morbius wasnt funny bad, but execs taking the Morbmentum memes seriously and re-releasing it was very funny I think the only time in cinema history where the distributor actually lost money putting out copies lol
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Feb 9, 2024 01:59
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Clip-On Fedora posted:Shigeru Miyamoto is a toymaker who deeply resents the idea that games should have stories. To be fair he’s often right. Mario’s world is way better as a cast of stock characters who can be easily plugged into any conceivable scenario. And his games are better because I can just jump on the goomba without having to hear to toad drone on about how important it is to stop said goomba and what a threat goombas are. It would suck for Mario to have “lore” or “plot”.
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Feb 9, 2024 02:43
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One More Fat Nerd posted:If I remember correctly, this is because they literally lost the relevant contracts, so when he said he had the rights to a bunch of characters, they couldn't prove he didnt. Also didn't help that Sega literally didn't send anyone to show up to court apparently
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Feb 9, 2024 03:54
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galagazombie posted:To be fair he’s often right. Mario’s world is way better as a cast of stock characters who can be easily plugged into any conceivable scenario. And his games are better because I can just jump on the goomba without having to hear to toad drone on about how important it is to stop said goomba and what a threat goombas are. It would suck for Mario to have “lore” or “plot”. But Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario are loving classics
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Feb 9, 2024 03:54
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Knight posted:kinda funny Eternals didn't get the same treatment Morbin time was a genuinely popular meme, I think only our dead gay forum got Kingo krazed
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Feb 9, 2024 04:06
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galagazombie posted:To be fair he’s often right. Mario’s world is way better as a cast of stock characters who can be easily plugged into any conceivable scenario. And his games are better because I can just jump on the goomba without having to hear to toad drone on about how important it is to stop said goomba and what a threat goombas are. It would suck for Mario to have “lore” or “plot”. Him putting his foot down about this is why the Switch Paper Mario game couldn't have NPC monsters with unique sprites or names though, he takes it too far
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Feb 9, 2024 04:18
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Ghost Leviathan posted:But Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario are loving classics Paper Mario is the epitome of that though. Mario just wanders about gawking at random silly characters doing random silly things while you stomp Goombas until the game arbitrarily decides it’s time to finally rescue Peach. Nothing has an explanation or justification nor needs one, it’s just “I’m a Goomba with a Pirate Hat! Yarr!”. Mario RPG on the other hand may or may not be that, the game was so unfun to play I stopped playing right at the start.
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Feb 9, 2024 04:23
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galagazombie posted:Paper Mario is the epitome of that though. Mario just wanders about gawking at random silly characters doing random silly things while you stomp Goombas until the game arbitrarily decides it’s time to finally rescue Peach. Nothing has an explanation or justification nor needs one, it’s just “I’m a Goomba with a Pirate Hat! Yarr!”. I'm not really sure you played Paper Mario either tbh It's lighthearted and kid-accessible but it's not random or arbitrary at all 
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Feb 9, 2024 04:34
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Eric Cantonese posted:Even if Covid hadn't happened, The Eternals is one of the comic concepts that comic fans tend to overrate because it's a Kirby creation. It was fantastic art and interesting thematic concepts combined with some very stilted writing (which could be said for pretty much anything Kirby did after parting ways with Stan Lee). It's the kind of concept that only really goes well with hardcore nerds I don't think it was ever going to do well. it was Kirbys weakest work, he used up all the good ideas on New Gods
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Feb 9, 2024 04:43
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the milk machine posted:that reminds me: hell yeah, you're always in for a pretty good time with Peter Hyams flicks Outland 2010 Capricorn One Running Scared Timecop Sudden Death Busting End Of Days Stay Tuned
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Feb 9, 2024 05:12
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I get where Miyamoto is coming from. The Japanese industry in the 80's and 90's had tons of people in it who would have rather been working in film instead of video games, and apparently they would never shut up about it. That attitude got on his nerves after awhile, because he was like, "Oh, so my chosen profession isn't good enough for you assholes? Yeah, gently caress you too." What happened to the Paper Mario games was total bullshit though. Those were great RPGs. Technically they were made by the guys who did Fire Emblem though, and I think Nintendo wasn't comfortable having a bunch of trademarked Nintendo-looking characters that were technically owned by someone else, so I think that is one of the major reasons they clamped down on those games, and it wasn't just Miyamoto's preferences.
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Feb 9, 2024 05:17
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Laterite posted:hell yeah, you're always in for a pretty good time with Peter Hyams flicks drat I've only seen maybe half of these, adding to my Plex now 
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Feb 9, 2024 05:22
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galagazombie posted:Paper Mario is the epitome of that though. Mario just wanders about gawking at random silly characters doing random silly things while you stomp Goombas until the game arbitrarily decides it’s time to finally rescue Peach. Nothing has an explanation or justification nor needs one, it’s just “I’m a Goomba with a Pirate Hat! Yarr!”. What
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Feb 9, 2024 07:15
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quote:Set in the Mushroom Kingdom, the game begins when Mario and Luigi receive an invitation from Peach for a party at the castle. There, when Mario and Peach are alone, Bowser lifts her castle, overpowers Mario with his invincibility that he gained by stealing the Star Rod and imprisoning the seven Star Spirits; Mario is thrown away from the castle in the sky and lands in Goomba Village, where he is aided by Goombario and his family. Mario and Goombario make their way to Shooting Star Summit, where the weakened seven Star Spirits' request Mario to find them in order to stop Bowser's invincibility. Mario and his friends go to the four Koopa Bros.' fortress where they save the first Star Spirit. and they find the second one in the Dry, Dry Desert inside a secret fortress ruled over by Tutankoopa. The third one is being kept by Tubba Bubba, a nemesis scaring the Boos and eating them when he is "invincible" (his heart is his true weak point). The fourth one is kept by the General Guy and his minions living in the Toy Box. Mario and his new friends travel to Lavalava Land, an island where its inhabitants are threatened by an impending volcanic eruption. After saving the fifth Spirit, they journey to Flower Fields retrieving the sixth one. Mario becomes a suspect of murder when he finds the Shiver City's mayor unconscious; after solving the mystery (which was the mayor's own accident), Mario gets to the Crystal Palace where he saves the last Star Spirit from the Crystal King. As he has saved every Star Spirit, Mario then departs to Peach's Castle. as good as any sonic game imo
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Feb 9, 2024 07:17
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and that's just the first game, the next two being a touch deeper than arbitrarily saving peach
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Feb 9, 2024 07:19
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In which game do the mario bros eiffel tower that guy
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Feb 9, 2024 07:25
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galagazombie posted:Mario RPG on the other hand may or may not be that, the game was so unfun to play I stopped playing right at the start. Rosalina have mercy on your soul
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Feb 9, 2024 07:26
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Nichael posted:In which game do the mario bros eiffel tower that guy That was actually a WarioWare game
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