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Nit Wit Dog poo poo posted:Devin Hester getting in the HOF over Torry Holt is bullshit. Torry's waited five tears (after retirement), while Hester waited just three. i barely remember torry holt and remember devin hester very well
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Nothing against Torry Holt but Devin Hester was really something special to watch on kick returns.
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Feb 9, 2024 09:12
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They both belong in, think Holt had the misfortune of being overshadowed by like five other HoFers on that offense
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Feb 9, 2024 09:16
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Hot take for this thread, but Marshawn Lynch should be a first ballot HOFer.
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Feb 9, 2024 09:30
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Hot take for this thread, but Marshawn Lynch should be a first ballot HOFer. you know what? i think this guy is right
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Hot take for this thread, but Marshawn Lynch should be a first ballot HOFer. This take is hot, but it doesn't make it any less correct
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Feb 9, 2024 14:40
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Hot take for this thread, but Marshawn Lynch should be a first ballot HOFer. Look, when you're right, you're right.
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Feb 9, 2024 15:06
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I looked at his stats and accomplishments and you guys are wrong. Lynch is not a HOFer. Sorry. He's a HOF personality but not player. 5 pro bowls, 2 all-pro led the league in TDs 1 time, and rushing TDs 2 times. And has a famous playoff play. And that's it. Not really a HOF resume. He did play longer than most RBs, too. His highest career counting stat is TDs where he is 28th all-time. Seattle hall of fame, yes. Canton? Naw.
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Feb 9, 2024 16:11
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TWO Seahawks legends made the HOF this year. Continuation of excellence. Devin Hester's magical 2 playoff games where he single handledly tried to keep Seattle in the game vs Atlanta in 2016. And Dwight Freeney for his 4 games and 3 sacks midseason in 2017.
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Feb 9, 2024 16:54
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Dwight Freeney had more sacks in a Seahawks uniform than L.J. Collier
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Waltzing Along posted:I looked at his stats and accomplishments and you guys are wrong. Lynch is not a HOFer. Sorry. He's a HOF personality but not player. 5 pro bowls, 2 all-pro led the league in TDs 1 time, and rushing TDs 2 times. And has a famous playoff play. 
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Feb 9, 2024 17:37
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DancingMachine posted:Hester made kick returns worth watching for like 2 years and was a totally unique player. He absolutely makes more sense in the HoF than yet another WR who was like a top 5 or 10 in the league WR for a good long period. Holt's career is objectively much more valuable than Devin Hester's, there's no getting around that. You can argue him in for being the best at his role but that's it, because otherwise you're talking about a guy who scored 20 career touchdowns. And Holt had the misfortune, for ranking purposes, of having a career that overlapped Randy Moss, Terrell Owens and Marvin Harrison, who are arguably the #2-4 receivers of all-time.
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Feb 9, 2024 17:59
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It's a Hall of Fame, not a Hall of More Valuable If you want Holt to get in, I don't know why you're mad at Hester and not Andre Johnson for jumping the WR line.
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Feb 9, 2024 18:01
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Does anybody actually believe that "Hall of Fame not Hall of Numbers" bullshit as if the Hall itself is not supposed to be conferring the Fame and that's why it's called that? I'm not "mad" at Hester, I just wish people would be honest about the argument they're making for him.
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Feb 9, 2024 18:05
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If I am going to be mad at anyone it will be the NFL for having an arbitrary limit of 5 modern players per year, which is a loving stupid limit.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:If I am going to be mad at anyone it will be the NFL for having an arbitrary limit of 5 modern players per year, which is a loving stupid limit. This is true and what's funny is that baseball is running into a logjam even though they have twice the limit because old sportswriters are loving insane people
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Feb 9, 2024 18:15
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Criminal Minded posted:This is true and what's funny is that baseball is running into a logjam even though they have twice the limit because old sportswriters are loving insane people Barry Bonds not being in the HOF should revoke everyones ballot imo.
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Feb 9, 2024 18:39
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Mustached Demon posted:Barry Bonds not being in the HOF should revoke everyones ballot imo.  Also I'm glad Willis got into the hall. He was super good the moment he got into the pros all the way until his career ended.
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Feb 9, 2024 18:53
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Mustached Demon posted:Barry Bonds not being in the HOF should revoke everyones ballot imo. 
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Mustached Demon posted:Barry Bonds not being in the HOF should revoke everyones ballot imo. Even if we do not respect him as a person, he deserves to be in.
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Feb 9, 2024 19:44
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Mustached Demon posted:Barry Bonds not being in the HOF should revoke everyones ballot imo. Agreed. Barry Bonds should be in the NFL HOF. Heywaittaminnut--
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Feb 9, 2024 19:51
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Agreed. Barry Bonds should be in the NFL HOF. Might as well. He was that good.
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Mustached Demon posted:Barry Bonds not being in the HOF should revoke everyones ballot imo. The three best players of my life are clearly Bonds, A-Rod and Clemens
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Feb 9, 2024 20:12
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Agreed. Barry Bonds should be in the NFL HOF. Nothing in the NFL rule book that says you can’t hit the football with a stick.
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Feb 9, 2024 20:13
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David Ortiz was the 58th person to ever be a 1st ballot HoFer and he actually pissed hot, amazing how lovely the baseball HoF is
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Imagining Bond’s football career equivalence and I’m picturing defenses playing Hail Mary coverage every down because if you don’t he throws a td, so he just walks for a first down repeatedly
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Feb 9, 2024 20:52
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What's the NFL equivalent of drawing walks? A valuable skill that the NFL media largely ignores? I'd go with thrown at% for DBs. Its a defensive stat, I know.
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Papercut posted:David Ortiz was the 58th person to ever be a 1st ballot HoFer and he actually pissed hot, amazing how lovely the baseball HoF is His shooting was a deep state operation to garner sympathy for his HoF candidacy  Also, I think it's bullshit Mariano was a unanimous vote whereas Griffey wasn't on 3 ballots.
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seiferguy posted:What's the NFL equivalent of drawing walks? A valuable skill that the NFL media largely ignores? Double coverage rate?
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seiferguy posted:What's the NFL equivalent of drawing walks? A valuable skill that the NFL media largely ignores? Probably like pass block success rate
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seiferguy posted:What's the NFL equivalent of drawing walks? A valuable skill that the NFL media largely ignores? It's what Mahomes does every time he gets hit.
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seiferguy posted:What's the NFL equivalent of drawing walks? A valuable skill that the NFL media largely ignores? Number of plays in which the defense went to a Prevent D. Basically just give the opposing offense a freebie first down, to try to protect from an immediate quick TD.
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seiferguy posted:What's the NFL equivalent of drawing walks? A valuable skill that the NFL media largely ignores? 1st down runs for 5-9 yards. :run:
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bonds, clemens, and anyone else who's taken roids should never be in the hof.
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This gave me a genuine laugh. https://slate.com/culture/2024/02/super-bowl-san-francisco-49ers-brock-purdy-haters.html quote:He dresses like a midlevel manager at a fintech firm and carries himself with the disposition of the second- or third-most-helpful person on a four-person group project...The NFL has so many incredible quarterbacks now that we’ve gotten hooked on watching them operate on a near-godly plane. When a quarterback simply goes about his business and doesn’t wow audiences like Mahomes or Jackson or Allen, it is easy for his success to feel cheap...Which is why Purdy must be stopped. If he wins on Sunday, 49ers fans will be inoculated forever against the petty barbs of jealous outsiders who don’t believe that Purdy is worthy of bringing happiness to a fan base. No group of NFL fans other than your own deserves to taste victory, and can you imagine how much it will sting if Brock Purdy is the one to deliver it to the Bay Area? Mostly just an amusing read without any judgement other than about the discourse.
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algebra testes posted:Sherman is the best lmao lol
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Strong Sauce posted:bonds, clemens, and anyone else who's taken roids should never be in the hof. Yeah just abolish the hall, agreed
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bonds, sosa, mcgwire juicing was huge and constant in the news for years, and the baseball hall is decided by those same journalists, so it's like synonymous with their names in a way that countless other undoubtedly-jucing players are not their mistake was being caught or at least being suspicious enough to have allegations hanging over them, and that is costing them same thing as for pete rose, he wasn't the only player gambling but he was the big name player who got caught
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Leperflesh posted:bonds, sosa, mcgwire juicing was huge and constant in the news for years, and the baseball hall is decided by those same journalists, so it's like synonymous with their names in a way that countless other undoubtedly-jucing players are not Pete Rose being banned in today's sports world is stupid as well.
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McGwire and Sosa was the most exciting baseball has and had been for decades, who gives a gently caress, put em in
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