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According to the first episode, the redhead is named Blair and she says she doesn’t recognize the spiral when shown a picture in the second episode, but then looks like of shocked or affected when she walks away. In both episodes, her missing pinky and ring fingers are clearly, deliberately shown. In both scenes she’s also with the older lady who cleans the research station, who says Blair moved in with her after leaving her abusive husband. She’s played by Kathryn Wilder. Maybe I’m just trying to invent an Errol Childress twist. The only other one I have is that Navarro has been imagining her entire relationship with Fiona Shaw, whose only ever actual contact with her was in the first episode, and we find out when Freshman drags two bodies into her house and she has no idea what is going on.
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Feb 11, 2024 02:08
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Lucky thing Petey didn't freeze to death in that shed.
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Feb 11, 2024 02:28
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Golden Bee posted:Interesting, dramatic ep…then I busted out laughing at the final needle drop. I think the show has been "fine" so far and this episode in particular was one of the stronger ones, and also I am perfectly fine with the opening theme song even if it is a let-down given how strong the first couple season's theme songs were... but holy poo poo the closing songs for the last two episodes have been AWFUL, completely undercut the atmosphere and any positive feeling I had coming out of the ending.
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Feb 11, 2024 02:29
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I'm enjoying this season a lot, though it's not without some significant flaws. I'd still take it over S2. I haven't watched much of S3 because Alzheimer's/senility stuff fucks me up in a way that makes it difficult, so I dunno where I'd put this in the overall pantheon, but it's engaging and different and I appreciate that.
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Feb 11, 2024 03:17
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Have we got any backstory on how Chekov's polar bear got his eye injury? I hope the finale is just him eating people in the ice caves as they trickle in one by one.
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Feb 11, 2024 03:41
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Mordja posted:Lucky thing Petey didn't freeze to death in that shed. Did I miss something, because I interpreted as "hey kid, I hear you need a place to stay. Why don't I set you up in my tool shed. There's a plastic chair. You'll love it. Bring a blanket and a bucket to poo poo in because it's just a shed"
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Feb 11, 2024 03:47
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There hasn’t been any electronic interference of flickering of electronic lights since the first episode, has there? I guess they do notice in the phone recordings that it happens at the station and in the cave murder six years before, but it seems like something else that will ultimately have little significance.
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I AM GRANDO posted:There hasn’t been any electronic interference of flickering of electronic lights since the first episode, has there? I guess they do notice in the phone recordings that it happens at the station and in the cave murder six years before, but it seems like something else that will ultimately have little significance. There was on the ice this episode
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Feb 11, 2024 03:56
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Since we have zero True Detectives in four complete seasons of this TV show which is ostensibly about True Detectiving, and since we’ve had zero in the various True Detective threads stretching back ten years, I figured it was about time I stepped up. There is absolutely zero evidence that the polar bear isn’t also the Lost Bear, previously known as the Tuunbaq. Granted, this bear would have to do a lot of traveling across time and physical space, but these concepts mean nothing in the Spirit World, to a Spirit Bear.
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Feb 11, 2024 04:30
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Golden Bee posted:Interesting, dramatic ep…then I busted out laughing at the final needle drop. I can’t wait for the season finale’s somber cover of cotton eye joe over the closing credits.
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Feb 11, 2024 04:32
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ruddiger posted:I can’t wait for the season finale’s somber cover of cotton eye joe over the closing credits British children’s choir: Draaaaaagulaaa-ahhhh
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Feb 11, 2024 04:43
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In a despairing, slow-drawn out wailing: ♪ "Won't the real Slim Shady please stand up?" ♪
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I thought this latest episode was refreshing. Finally, we’re getting the corrupt institutions putting real pressure on our true detectives. I thought it was pretty clear that Prior was going to kill Danvers, once he shot Heiss in front of her. Nice to see some real urgent and immediate stakes.
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Feb 11, 2024 05:18
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We need to get Otis out of jail and get him to help us navigate the caves. I'm going to steal some heroin out of the evidence room against my strong convictions to get him focused enough to do it. Sol Star shoots Otis twice. Freshman shoots Sol Star. Navarro tells the freshman to clean up these bodies and dump them there. Navarro tells Captain Danvers we need to go investigate the caves right now, apparently they don't need Otis anymore.
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On top of that I think they're going to coward out and not make Danvers or Navarro bad cops
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Feb 11, 2024 05:54
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Too late I’ve already seen them be bad cops for 5 episodes.
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covidstomper58 posted:Navarro tells Captain Danvers we need to go investigate the caves right now, apparently they don't need Otis anymore. Otis tapped directly on the map and told Danvers where the point they were looking for was when she said he had to before she'd give him the heroin. It would be a hell of a lot easier with him along for the ride to show them specifically where once they arrived, but before he showed Danvers where on the map they had no idea where to look beyond "somewhere high". It's still going to be dangerous and they'll probably rely on other signs like finding one of the stones that we learned in this episode locals would leave above underground cave locations as a warning marker, but they're now pressed for time with a lot more pressure on and having to take risks.
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Feb 11, 2024 05:58
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TheBizzness posted:Too late I’ve already seen them be bad cops for 5 episodes.
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covidstomper58 posted:We need to get Otis out of jail and get him to help us navigate the caves. He told her where the entrance was right before she gave him the heroin. But she couldn't give him the heroin and have him shoot up at the rehab clinic so they had to drive all the way back to her house to make the deal in private. A bit convoluted but not the worst plot contrivance. I guess Danvers would've known she didn't need Otis anymore once evil Prior shows up but presumably she wasn't cool with just letting him murke a key witness even if he already told her the cave location.
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Feb 11, 2024 06:03
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covidstomper58 posted:We need to get Otis out of jail and get him to help us navigate the caves. There are three options regarding the cave: the safe option, the dangerous option, or giving up. They rejected giving up. He was the safe option when the stakes were lower. Now that the stakes are higher and he's gone they're choosing the dangerous option.
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Final shot is going to be evil prior’s Russian mail order bride finally arriving and all of the remaining cast standing around laughing with their hands on their hips. Whatever resolution we get next week is going to be dumb as hell and I’m excited to find out what it is.
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Power Walrus posted:I thought this latest episode was refreshing. Finally, we’re getting the corrupt institutions putting real pressure on our true detectives. I thought it was pretty clear that Prior was going to kill Danvers, once he shot Heiss in front of her. Nice to see some real urgent and immediate stakes. I made sense of his bad decisions as him trying to just suicide by his cop and escape his blackmail situation that way once it became clear that he wouldn’t be able to get Otis out of the house to kill him secretly, or maybe even before he entered the house if he realized that he’s too much of a dumb gently caress to ever pull off what he was attempting. Like, he has to know that pointing his gun at Danvers will prompt his son to kill him because Peter treats Danvers like a father figure and considers him an idiot he can barely stand. His story to Peter about falling through the ice seems very much like a farewell gesture, like he’s realized there’s no way out of his situation because either the mine kills him/gets him sent to jail/whatever or he fails to get away with killing Otis. We should know he’s a bad detective because Otis was checked into what has to be the only rehab place in town under his own name, and the staff seem fine with taking cops to go bother him and then walking away.
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Robobot posted:Also I enjoyed reading your write up. Seldom Posts posted:This is excellent, thank you really puts into words what I was feeling watching that episode. The only thing I would add is that the stuffed bear is a totem of her old life, her hanging on to it was showing how she hadn't really processed the trauma, and her throwing it away is her refusing to do that. grobbo posted:-Why does Danvers keep telling Peter to 'think! Think!' when there's not really a narrative reason why he *would* shoot his dad dead on the spot and he never seems at risk of siding with Hank? Wouldn't she be better off telling Hank to lower his gun and confess? grobbo posted:- For the sake of dramatic tension, shouldn't we see Hank at least try to win his son over to his side? Not even a token bit of 'Danvers is the real murderer, son - you figured out she killed Wheeler, didn't you?' Whale Vomit posted:Did everyone take their stupid pills this episode. None of the characters decisions in the last 20 minutes made any sense. Danvers, as noted, tries to appeal to Hank. She's under the mistaken impression that he's being blackmailed, not that he's corrupt. She tries to talk his son down from shooting him. Once that happens, Navarro's right that the answer is coverup or prison. Holding aside the corruption and that Dr Who can drop Wheeler on both of them whenever he'd like, it's clear a lot of people think Liz and Pete are loving which is a uniquely bad position to be in when he's inexplicably in your house and kills his father, who also has no reason for being there, and his father has killed a witness who also had no reason to be there and had heroin he had no reason to have when hours prior, Liz'd stopped in to the evidence room (which the show chose to highlight, up to and including punching her code in) I get that I have a lot of words in this thread interpreting the motivations of characters based on inferences and possible interpretations of scenes. Zero qualms if anyone wants to disagree with those - hell, I'd love it. The background motivations driving characters in to conflict is what I think this season has done best (and was my favorite part of what Season 1 actually was, as opposed to what I had hoped it was), so love discussion of that! This is just goon plot blindness (the cousin of goon face blindness). I AM GRANDO posted:I want to accuse this show of being predictable, but I have to admit that I can’t figure out why they’re dangling her in front of us like that. The people at the cannery know her name and recognize her, right? She can’t be like a deep-cover agent or an avatar of the goddess the kid draws or a ghost or some poo poo?
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Enough about thread poo poo! Finale coming. As they start tying things up this episode, I'm increasingly coming to terms with: fullroundaction posted:Whatever resolution we get next week is going to be dumb as hell and I’m excited to find out what it is. I did feel cheated by the time jump here, because there's a whole lot of aftermath we're just not getting. Everything about Hank cracking the laptop, telling Dr Who, Danvers realizing how he did it, felt in service of answering "how do we get Pete to Danvers', how do we get Dr Who leverage, and how do we make Pete mad at the dad we've just shown him living with?" as opposed to telling the story. On the other hand, I thought everything Liz and Leah played out very well and showing Sheri abandoning Leah as she was getting dragged and beaten was a fun way of reversing the Annie<->Leah dynamic we've seen thus far as viewers: Annie's death has been the cautionary tale to cause us (and Danvers) distress at Leah's choices. Here, Leah being abandoned to her fate by her white partner precedes us learning about the details of Annie's death. I suspect there'll be a number of echoes (in part because there's zero point to the opening otherwise). Threads to tie up, assuming nothing's supernatural
Neither Dr Who nor Leah are likely to be at the ice caves, so I'm really not confident the show will manage to give an explanation to most of those. Hopefully we'll at least get the reveal Kayla's been catfishing her father in law.
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TheBizzness posted:Too late I’ve already seen them be bad cops for 5 episodes. True Detectives Obstacle posted:In honor of the AI posters this season. 
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Found the ep weirdly slow and dull until the bizarre ending. Some oddly repetitive dialogue where people would say the same thing five times when one sentence would've done, and been more impactful. (With the slightly hilarious exception of Otis seeing the heroin and instantly cutting to him in Danvers' car - that was pretty efficient!) God I hope this ice cave mystery pays off well.
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covidstomper58 posted:We need to get Otis out of jail and get him to help us navigate the caves. I'm sorry about your media literacy. Good job counting to two though, you got that right.
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HootTheOwl posted:Poo Detected
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HermitSupplier posted:call that poo poo Light Country if you ask me, the light's winning
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fullroundaction posted:Final shot is going to be evil prior’s Russian mail order bride finally arriving and all of the remaining cast standing around laughing with their hands on their hips. Given that they basically adlibbed the ending of episode 5, maybe that's how they ended up doing the entirety of 6.
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I AM GRANDO posted:British children’s choir: Draaaaaagulaaa-ahhhh loving lol
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LaserPrinter69 posted:Did I miss something, because I interpreted as "hey kid, I hear you need a place to stay. Why don't I set you up in my tool shed. There's a plastic chair. You'll love it. Bring a blanket and a bucket to poo poo in because it's just a shed"
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She offered it to him as the "best" solution remaining to him because after the reveal that his dad had broke into his laptop and used what he found to help bury the investigation she knew he couldn't stay there, his wife wasn't letting him go home and he'd already made it clear that staying in Danvers' actual house would basically end his marriage for good. So she told him he could crash in the shed and they'd avoid each other. It wasn't designed to be a long-term solution, or a particularly appealing one for either of them, I don't think, just a way to deal with this immediate problem. Now of course, what the guy should be doing is going home and communicating with his wife, getting his head straight and figuring out where his priorities lie and hope she'd take him back. But if he was able to do that he probably wouldn't have ended up in a position where he got kicked out of the house in the first place.
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covidstomper58 posted:We need to get Otis out of jail and get him to help us navigate the caves. She made him point to the top before giving him the heroin
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This is an ok show with the worst loving music choices. Characters in a sad situation? Make sure the lyrics say "we're broken" so the audience knows how they feel. Guy playing sad guitar to himself? Make sure the lyrics are "There is no god" so we know he's sad and nihilistic. Once again wishing this was more than six episodes. One thing S1 did great (and S2 to some extent too) was nailing the incremental progress that led to neat scenes. You have them capture *some* of the bad guys mid-season. Here the progress has felt a lot more stilted, big progress being that there are caves and that the big company is indeed evil. Hasn't quite led to big set pieces, but more people yelling at each other in offices. Still, curious how they wrap it up in just one more ep.
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Honestly the whole thing with Prior Jrs wife getting angry and kicking him out seems a little forced. Afaict she's mad at him for going to work and having a disrespectful boss? I mean he should try to stick up for himself more and push back on having no home and family time but she immediately goes to "You son of a bitch how could you not quit your job the moment your boss demands overtime on a big murder case? Get out of the house you're never seeing your child again."
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counterfeitsaint posted:I'm sorry about your media literacy. Good job counting to two though, you got that right. I think a lot of people in this thread have showcased confusion about the season plot points because the episodes are plodding, there's a ton of loose threads everywhere, and characters establish something once in a line lost in a myriad of other lines. mrmcd posted:Honestly the whole thing with Prior Jrs wife getting angry and kicking him out seems a little forced. Afaict she's mad at him for going to work and having a disrespectful boss? I mean he should try to stick up for himself more and push back on having no home and family time but she immediately goes to "You son of a bitch how could you not quit your job the moment your boss demands overtime on a big murder case? Get out of the house you're never seeing your child again." Yeah she's either a complete rear end in a top hat that doesn't understand sympathy or it's just bad writing. A common trope across many characters this season.
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mrmcd posted:Honestly the whole thing with Prior Jrs wife getting angry and kicking him out seems a little forced. Afaict she's mad at him for going to work and having a disrespectful boss? I mean he should try to stick up for himself more and push back on having no home and family time but she immediately goes to "You son of a bitch how could you not quit your job the moment your boss demands overtime on a big murder case? Get out of the house you're never seeing your child again." Yeah. Wasn’t really feeling “you’re never home cause of your lovely boss! You’re home tonight? Get the gently caress out!” Is the implication that he hasn’t been home a single night since the previous episode and if so, why? No work got done.
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