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Malachite_Dragon posted:-newbie engineer is proven horrendously wrong- It's amazing how much people will ignore past history on things. Part of my facility's structural design/qualification process was done through a third-party contract firm. They... sucked. There's no other way to put it. I'm unwinding their mistakes 7+ years later. After the project, we had a post-mortem meeting where part of it was "what went wrong, and how can we avoid it for the future" and the presentations called out the complete overexaggeration of the qualifications and skills of the contract group, all the problems they caused, the lack of quality decision making by their leads, etc. We literally said that they best thing we could do is not use them for any complicated projects moving forward. Let them redesign cafeterias or something, but keep them out of labs because they just cannot do it. Three months later, they were contracted by the very same team to whom we presented the slide deck, to redesign and qualify an API pilot plant on site. It might not be as complicated as our building from sheer scale, but it's way more critical that they get it all perfect because the pilot plant makes the main core functional ingredients for drugs. Here we are, maybe one quarter removed from dissecting the many failures of Clownshoes Incorporated, and we're already handing them the keys to another project. Great job, many lessons learned.
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Eric the Mauve posted:If you don't think you can get away with an actual Unicomp, here you go: https://www.amazon.com/TECWARE-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-Excellent/dp/B076YHBQYJ I just tried to buy a unicomp from their website but recapcha never finished loading after I checked it. I guess that’s what I get for trying to use Safari.
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Smithwick posted:I have had multiple directors and VPs over the years proclaim that some process, system or software would greatly reduce the use of excel. Almost none have bared fruit. Excel is eternal. It is like Judge Holden, it will never die. Probably posted before but the head of messaging at my old job said, with a straight face, that "MS Teams will massively reduce the use of email". I don't know what kool aid he was drinking there, I'm not sure even Microsoft would claim that one. Particularly not based on the absolutely pathetic amount of effort they put into making Teams not utter poo poo. We should start a support group. Ticket closed: user cannot be helped.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Probably posted before but the head of messaging at my old job said, with a straight face, that "MS Teams will massively reduce the use of email". MS Teams has massively reduced the use of MS Teams
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I dunno it definitely has reduced email at my company and the previous one too. Just annoyingly a lot of “hello” messages
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We’ve been trying to move away from excel for everything so we switched to planner for task tracking. Which in my situation means I get hit every morning telling me I’m late on 7-12 tasks. I know bud, I know I’m late on everything. No, I’m not going to close them out. No, I’m not going to expedite things. My workflow is not like yours.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Probably posted before but the head of messaging at my old job said, with a straight face, that "MS Teams will massively reduce the use of email". I'm sure MS has claimed that as some point. Everyone else has from HipChat (lol) to Slack. And in some organizations or parts of them it does. The question remains if that's a GOOD thing? In many cases it's very much not, as it culminates in everyone in a million different channels that they never look at anymore and people claiming "I informed you" beause they put something in a channel.
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I just treat IMs like face to face conversations and make it clear that if stuff isn't in an email then it doesn't exist.
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Arquinsiel posted:I just treat IMs like face to face conversations and make it clear that if stuff isn't in an email then it doesn't exist. This. I publish a short doc in my company profile that basically says my SLA for: - slack/IM - hours to never - email - 24 hours - documents for commenting - 24 hours And an ending of “if you must get an answer immediately, call my phone”. People are surprisingly averse to calling someone’s phone so I have rarely been called.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Probably posted before but the head of messaging at my old job said, with a straight face, that "MS Teams will massively reduce the use of email". I had a VP around 2015 say "Email will be dead in 5 years". Yeah ok.
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I know We put AI on the block chain
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At my shop (130k users globally) we've dropped Office as a standard, it's now an exception request item. It's automatically approved but charges your cost center for the license. gSuite is significantly more convenient, vastly better for collaboration, and your data is far safer. We're also saving a ton of money on Office licenses, plus it makes Bill Gates' Netscape Nightmare reality.
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Lockback posted:I had a VP around 2015 say "Email will be dead in 5 years". It's seems like it's a job responsbility of VPs to get sucked into the latest sutpid poo poo going around business web sites/social media. My idiot EVP was talking about about the metaverse last year. We're a telecom.
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Renegret posted:I know
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Literally every schedule and team calendar at my job is an excel spreadsheet. It is the dumbest poo poo in the world.
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Honey Im Homme posted:Literally every schedule and team calendar at my job is an excel spreadsheet. It is the dumbest poo poo in the world. There are a few cases where I see the value of GSheets/Excel as a calendar. I use it for our GMP area schedule, because there are just so many moving parts. A column per day (365 columns), a row per equipment unit (about 200 units) + identifying details, and then we color-code the cells based on which group (facilities, engineering, production, etc) has the equipment booked and a short-hand description of what they're doing. Orange cell "6mo PM Blender" = Facilities is doing preventative maintenance on Blender #2, based on the row it's in. They have it for those three days. Etc etc. It's mainly useful because there's just so much to track, and it's way easier to CTRL-X + CTRL-V a cell to a new place if they need to reschedule things than it is to deal with a more full-featured calendar program.
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Microsoft Project is the excel but a calendar that you want but it's not part of the default office package so it may as well not exist. It also doesn't help that someone convinced the csuite that sliding calendars are an advanced management technology. Motronic posted:It's seems like it's a job responsbility of VPs to get sucked into the latest sutpid poo poo going around business web sites/social media. My idiot EVP was talking about about the metaverse last year. We're a telecom.
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The junk collector posted:Microsoft Project is the excel but a calendar that you want but it's not part of the default office package so it may as well not exist. What an incredible job, you just have to point chat gpt at the news and tell it to combine it in a way that sounds like power grid news.
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mllaneza posted:At my shop (130k users globally) we've dropped Office as a standard, it's now an exception request item. It's automatically approved but charges your cost center for the license. gSuite is significantly more convenient, vastly better for collaboration, and your data is far safer. We're also saving a ton of money on Office licenses, plus it makes Bill Gates' Netscape Nightmare reality.
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My department was informed that we are being outsourced. The only people who aren’t being cut are the IC who report directly to my boss.
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Smithwick posted:I have had multiple directors and VPs over the years proclaim that some process, system or software would greatly reduce the use of excel. Almost none have bared fruit. Excel is eternal. It is like Judge Holden, it will never die. There's a saying in YOSPOS; Excel is the most powerful software on everyone's PC. mllaneza posted:At my shop (130k users globally) we've dropped Office as a standard, it's now an exception request item. It's automatically approved but charges your cost center for the license. gSuite is significantly more convenient, vastly better for collaboration, and your data is far safer. We're also saving a ton of money on Office licenses, plus it makes Bill Gates' Netscape Nightmare reality. GSuite is the same price as Office.
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I guess google apps must have improved a lot but that’s surprising to hear they are on par with ms office now.
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priznat posted:I guess google apps must have improved a lot but that’s surprising to hear they are on par with ms office now. I’m in the middle of building the case to move my org from Gsuite to teams/365 and very much disagree with the right honorable posters sentiments.
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priznat posted:I guess google apps must have improved a lot but that’s surprising to hear they are on par with ms office now.
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priznat posted:I guess google apps must have improved a lot but that’s surprising to hear they are on par with ms office now. That's because they absolutely are not.
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E: wrong thread
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Ah ok, that’s useful to know. I don’t love office or anything but it’s not something I actively hate on that much anymore, but possibly I am just getting old.
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secular woods sex posted:My department was informed that we are being outsourced. The only people who aren’t being cut are the IC who report directly to my boss. That sucks! Any chance you can move internally?
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Arquinsiel posted:They really aren't. Simple stuff like sorting a sheet by ranked categories seems to be missing, so I can only imagine what wild Excel formula magic is also absent. Their powerpoint and word equivalents also aren't there yet. They aren't format-compatible with Office and importing / exporting tends to break table formatting and object colors/positioning (as recently as Friday for Powerpoint --> GSuite), etc. If you are stuck where you have to use DOCX/DOC for something and thus have to go back and forth, you'd damned well better keep an Office license around. Our GMP controlled document repository Veeva only allows DOCX/DOC/XLS/XLSX uploads, so even though our company standard is GSuite for office work, anything I do has to be finalized in MS Office anyway. There is a plugin for Veeva that supposedly allows GSuite transfers, but our SOPs explicitly don't allow that. I haven't tried because SOP is SOP, but one of the doc control folks told me when I asked that it had a habit of (surprise surprise) loving up formatting on import. My solution is MSOffice + VPH for collaboration, since Office remains mandatory for me basically.
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priznat posted:I guess google apps must have improved a lot but that’s surprising to hear they are on par with ms office now. They are not outside of basic use cases. Things they fail hard at still are mostly in the realm of macros and doc protections that lawyers love, esp at big corps. That’s not to say Goog isn’t making up ground, but there’s still an edge. Your army of pm’s and engineers will mostly be fine with Gsuite. Till they need excel, in which case Gsheets is more like Gshits. Just get excel out.
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For a short time a company I worked at was using a shared excel doc as a chat room.
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Barudak posted:For a short time a company I worked at was using a shared excel doc as a chat room. Use conditional formatting to make one person's comments turn cells red. Make another's text white-on-white.
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Arquinsiel posted:I've found gSuite to be an absolute nightmare to use, since nobody ever puts things where anyone else would have permissions to edit them so it always adds in a "need access plz" > "granted" go-round to the document review process. We did an almost brutal "use the shared drive, not My Drive" campaign for anything even remotely important. A 10-year versus 3-year retention policy helps make that super loving mandatory. Between useful shared drive permissions within the organization and the longer retention policy, we've got that whipped. My team has adopted the shared drive culture to the point where someone saying "I documented X!" will be automatically asked if it's on the shared drive. We have that drive organized pretty well. If someone saves a new doc about our disaster recovery solution according to policy and consensus, I can find it by browsing the shared drive. I can also browse the disaster recovery folder and see what we already have documented. It's more cultural than technical, but it works for us. priznat posted:I guess google apps must have improved a lot but that’s surprising to hear they are on par with ms office now. It's at about 80%, maybe a little more. I do stuff with .csv files, derive information with LOOKUP(), and do the occasional pivot table. If we're already paying for an email, chat, calendar, meet and drive license for me, gSheets is free and perfectly adequate. If I needed Office, I could have it. I don't, so we save money, and I can still do everything I need a spreadsheet for. We do put Office through its paces, especially Excel. I support organizations that have made their own Excel plugins. Last year I worked a ticket involving (obfuscated and encrypted VB macros as a plugin) that resulted in another group opening a ticket with our AV vendor. We still do Office because it does some mission critical things gSuite doesn't do. mllaneza fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Atopian posted:Use conditional formatting to make one person's comments turn cells red. Shadow banning the CEO via vbscript
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mllaneza posted:It's more cultural than technical, but it works for us.
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Arquinsiel posted:Yeah see that's a big part of the problem where I am. The culture is dogshit and everyone is looking for an exit because taking steps to fix problems like this is seen as sn attack on management. That last part is the worst. The only plan with a chance of success is "throw out your current system of interaction with employees and try again", but that would imply that the current management got it wrong, so it is necessary to run that poo poo into the ground until the board can no longer ignore it, and come to clean house. So frustrating and wasteful.
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Barudak posted:For a short time a company I worked at was using a shared excel doc as a chat room. Kelly Rowland was a trailblazer!
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Atopian posted:That last part is the worst.
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If he's publically making GBS threads on them, them leaving is probably the desired result.
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I don't think it is, I think they're just dysfunctional as gently caress. It seems like that with the exception of me and the new head of team brought in for my team the company hires kids and tells them they're getting "training" and keeps hammering home how lucky they are to even have jobs. We're a small company so losing two people is literally half the development team gone, and if they lost two from my team that's a 50% drop in revenue off the bat. It's legitimately depressing and I have made a huge mistake moving here.
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