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DoctorWhat posted:They thought Chris Chibnall was ready to make that Christmas special and he was like at the very last moment "no I'm not ready I need a whole other year". He started making the show significantly worse before he even took over. The result is a totally unnecessary coda to a character arc that came to an excellent conclusion in the prior story. Sure but if the end result is poo poo it's still poo poo. If I think a tv show is bad that isn't some kind of indictment of the people who made it. They may have been the most talented people in the world who got given a poo poo hand, or they may have been incompetent buffoons, but the actual product is bad regardless, and that is what I am judging.
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Feb 12, 2024 04:17
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:That final special is absolutely terrible.
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Feb 12, 2024 04:21
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Having seen most of modern Dr. Who I can safely say Dr. Who wishes it had the charm or vision of even a Lexx or Farscape.
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Feb 12, 2024 04:30
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what's the appeal of dr who for those who like it
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Feb 12, 2024 04:55
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If Doctor Who was set aboard the USS Buttcrack it would have been an improvement.
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Feb 12, 2024 04:56
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timey wimey wibbley wobbley britishy witishy
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Feb 12, 2024 04:57
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Willo567 posted:what's the appeal of dr who for those who like it Soft sci-fi with a pretty wide range of subject matter and (within the confines of a family show) tone. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 05:00
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Only 1970s Dr. Who is worth watching for me. There’s this blurry, grimy quality that reminds me of having a fever when I was a kid. It’s 100 times more ambitious than its budget allows and isn't afraid of pretty complex science fiction concepts that it van't really afford to represent visually. It reminds me of 90s adventure games for some reason I’m still working out—I think it has to do with how the stories unfold across discrete locations where everything happens in one place for one leg of the story and then they find a clue that sends them to another location where all the action happens for another leg. I’ve seen 60s Dr. Who and 80s Dr. Who, and neither of them interest me.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:07
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trilobite terror posted:a lot of big breadtubers have been on an “obesity doesn’t actually exist” and “the negative health effects of obesity don’t actually exist” kick, combining a completely valid and correct desire to combat social and medical fatshaming/misogyny/racism with good old-fashioned scientific illiteracy There's a drat reason that there is a new figurehead for HAES every few years. Being happy how you are is incredibly valid, but the evidence is pretty overwhelming that being obese is killing you.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:11
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old Dr Who had this really excellent premise of a regular human or two being whisked away from the normal world to explore a whole fantastical universe of allegory and wonder with an inscrutable nigh-omnipotent time and space traveling Virgil as their guide and then they ruined it in the 2000s by making the Virgil character a tortured protagonist and demoting the human audience insert character to sidekick
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Feb 12, 2024 05:13
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Mr Interweb posted:Oh, also too. I finally finished my most recent video: Oh hey this is a fun 20 minutes, gj
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Feb 12, 2024 05:14
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Willo567 posted:what's the appeal of dr who for those who like it Going online and arguing about which episodes are the worst episodes.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:17
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trilobite terror posted:a lot of big breadtubers have been on an “obesity doesn’t actually exist” and “the negative health effects of obesity don’t actually exist” kick, combining a completely valid and correct desire to combat social and medical fatshaming/misogyny/racism with good old-fashioned scientific illiteracy huh that's weird. what's up with that? who's doing it?
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Feb 12, 2024 05:18
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:like pulling the extremely stupid (and later retconned, I think?) example from the original star wars, "nobody in the known universe ever invented paper". that's never said in the original movies, but it's A Fact About The Universe that affects how people interact with each other in the backgroudn, how information is passed around, why some people do what they do without actually explaining it at the camera Weirdly enough it used to exist in the OT in at least one scene but it didn't make the final edit  E: I guess if they had a 'no paper' rule that would actually explain why that excellent gag got dropped ZenMasterBullshit posted:The capaldi era was also really bad. I'm getting through it now and like...half the episodes should have been cut before they made it to scripting and, while every era of Dr. Who would honestly benefit from being a 30 min show instead of a full hour, the capaldi era really feels like it's just spinning its wheels for every episode. I'd been a HUGE Dr Who fan my whole life after growing up in the 80s watching the Pertwee/Baker seasons (I built my own lifesize dalek, lol) and I absolutely loved Capaldi's depiction of the Doctor but the episodes were so poo poo I stopped watching. Dammit, Capaldi deserved better.  Willo567 posted:what's the appeal of dr who for those who like it Smug know-it-all who always beats the bullies because he's cleverer and more principled than they are. It's basically a nerd power fantasy
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Feb 12, 2024 05:26
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He's usually not really that clever though. Most of the time he's saved by some absolute bullshit or just knowing the thing before it happened because he's been there before, which isn't really outsmarting someone when they're locked into linear time and you're not. Honestly given how non-chalant/dismissive most of the doctors I've seen are of everything it's basically if you were supposed to find Zaphod Beeblebrox genuinely cool and charming instead of the kind a loser getting by on sheer luck and other peoples' goodwill. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 05:37
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I AM GRANDO posted:Only 1970s Dr. Who is worth watching for me. There’s this blurry, grimy quality that reminds me of having a fever when I was a kid. It’s 100 times more ambitious than its budget allows and isn't afraid of pretty complex science fiction concepts that it van't really afford to represent visually. It reminds me of 90s adventure games for some reason I’m still working out—I think it has to do with how the stories unfold across discrete locations where everything happens in one place for one leg of the story and then they find a clue that sends them to another location where all the action happens for another leg. I've only seen '60s Who, but I'd say most of that applies there too, except it's like a stage play instead of being grimy. Even though a big chunk of the serials I watched ultimately fell flat, I admired the variety of ideas they tried, sometimes in the same story.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:48
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The Saddest Rhino posted:https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1756339637092573590?t=vDe35Lk_-RXR3jXeN812Gw&s=19 Vaush pedophile and zoophile with Keffals who wanted to doxx others postt kiwifarms and can't stop being racist. Edit: The reason why I compared JJ Abrams and Stephen Moffat is because they both are white nepo babies allowed to have money and resources to make awful versions of top brand ip's like star trek, star wars, sherlock and hyde and others consistently. Annointed fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 05:49
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carrionman posted:There's a drat reason that there is a new figurehead for HAES every few years. the invulnerability of youth convinces a ton of people that obesity isn't really a thing. There's obese but active/mobile and obese/sedentary but either you can get through the first few decades of your life not struggling just to live provided you have sufficient income/social safety net. then you hit late 30s and suddenly medical problems start cropping up and not going away and then you are taking a pill regimen they use to only give to people 65 and older just to have baseline minimum health numbers while your doctor tries to dance around the topic of losing weight.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:55
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I don't think any doctor dances around asking you to lose weight (if you're a woman, at least).
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Feb 12, 2024 06:01
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The nicest thing a doctor ever told me was that I wasn’t really very fat.
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Feb 12, 2024 06:08
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Also I saw a cursed photo of vaush destiny and keffals having dinner out together and I cannot imagine how tiresome it is to be serving that table i think its funny some people thought destiny was left-wing because he was less wrong than jontron one time
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Feb 12, 2024 06:25
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iv watched all of the revival dr who and its 95 percent bad
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Feb 12, 2024 06:27
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I AM GRANDO posted:Only 1970s Dr. Who is worth watching for me. There’s this blurry, grimy quality that reminds me of having a fever when I was a kid. It’s 100 times more ambitious than its budget allows and isn't afraid of pretty complex science fiction concepts that it van't really afford to represent visually. you should watch Blake's 7
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Feb 12, 2024 06:36
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Impermanent posted:huh that's weird. what's up with that? who's doing it? Yeah, who’s making these videos? I haven’t seen anything saying this.
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Feb 12, 2024 07:10
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:He's usually not really that clever though. Most of the time he's saved by some absolute bullshit or just knowing the thing before it happened because he's been there before, which isn't really outsmarting someone when they're locked into linear time and you're not.   I think you could make an argument that being absolutely sure of the outcome before poo poo goes down is a common trope in power fantasy fiction since your more standard "pew pew shoot 'em up" action movies do pretty much the same thing, like when Schwarzenegger tells a mook "I'm going to kill you last" or whatever. (I guess that's a bad example because it's a setup for "You know when I said I'd kill you last? I LIED!" but I can't think of any other classic "Here's what's about to happen ..." moments off the top of my head even though I know there's a whole lot. It happens a bunch in the Reacher TV series but that's a super recent example.) ZenMasterBullshit posted:Most of the time he's saved by some absolute bullshit Can someone plz make a video essay about how Dr Who and Ghostbusters are power fantasies for nerds because I can't be assed researching it myself Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 07:14
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British people shouldn't be able to make tv shows. It's all panel shows keeping the worst comedians employed and sci-fi that makes Andromeda seem intelligent.
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Feb 12, 2024 07:28
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I can't think of any other classic "Here's what's about to happen ..." moments off the top of my head even though I know there's a whole lot. It's the basis for Sherlock's fighting style in the Guy Ritchie movies, though the second movie only uses it once before playing around with fun twists on the concept for the rest of the film.
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Feb 12, 2024 07:37
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TheMightyBoops posted:Yeah, who’s making these videos? I haven’t seen anything saying this. They're making fun of the same poster having a meltdown about Philosophy Tube (I think) and trying to dodge by making the same bad post but not naming them this time ("some" and "a lot", lol). mycot fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 07:48
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I can't think of any other classic "Here's what's about to happen ..." moments off the top of my head even though I know there's a whole lot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNYejdm5DE8
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Feb 12, 2024 07:55
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Solitair posted:I've only seen '60s Who, but I'd say most of that applies there too, except it's like a stage play instead of being grimy. Even though a big chunk of the serials I watched ultimately fell flat, I admired the variety of ideas they tried, sometimes in the same story. I'm unhealthily fond of Classic Dr. Who and I have a theory that the show got progressively worse as the special effects got better.
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Feb 12, 2024 08:03
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'm unhealthily fond of Classic Dr. Who and I have a theory that the show got progressively worse as the special effects got better. This doesn't actually contradict what you said but the modern effects being the better is very funny.
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Feb 12, 2024 08:06
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mycot posted:This doesn't actually contradict what you said but the modern effects being the better is very funny. If you haven't seen some of the 70s bluescreen work in Dr. Who, oh man, I have such sights to show you.
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Feb 12, 2024 08:07
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Such a fun concept. The first half of that movie had such potential and then it completely squandered it all in second half. The production behind that movie was really weird, it started out as a much darker movie where the fallen superhero character was the villain and Dave Chappelle was considered for the role but then it passed through several different studios and got rewritten over and over by people like Vince Gilligan and then Will Smith got attached so they had to pretty much completely re-engineer it to fit his brand Vincent Van Goatse posted:If you haven't seen some of the 70s bluescreen work in Dr. Who, oh man, I have such sights to show you.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUCSlb-jhsU
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Feb 12, 2024 08:20
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It's the basis for Sherlock's fighting style in the Guy Ritchie movies, though the second movie only uses it once before playing around with fun twists on the concept for the rest of the film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B62ACxuq8Pw
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Feb 12, 2024 08:27
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Oh hey this is a fun 20 minutes, gj ya think so? thanks! glad you liked it!  it's always a nerve racking thing to see how people respond to the latest vids 
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Feb 12, 2024 08:30
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LanceHunter posted:I'm just glad that he seems to be doing a lot less of the affective ornamentation. Dude had so many rings/bracelets/statement belt buckles/scarves/etc in his previous videos that he looks like a cartoon of an American college student returning from a summer backpacking in Europe. HA HA HA HA HA HA Skip to 14:30 in today's video for a special surprise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfhE266Nfbk
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Feb 12, 2024 09:11
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I liked modern Who for a long time. But almost every season finale always disappointed me. Either they let me down in the 2nd part (Most Moffat seasons besides 5 and 10) or they are all around nonsense (every Tennant season) Chibnall I didnt even care to give a chance anymore, and from what I heard about the recent specials Russel T Davies has fallen into the same trap as Moffat after all.
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Feb 12, 2024 10:10
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:British people shouldn't be able to make tv shows. It's all panel shows keeping the worst comedians employed and sci-fi that makes Andromeda seem intelligent. Andromeda? You mean the show starring Kevin Sorbo?
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Feb 12, 2024 10:18
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pentyne posted:the invulnerability of youth convinces a ton of people that obesity isn't really a thing. There's obese but active/mobile and obese/sedentary but either you can get through the first few decades of your life not struggling just to live provided you have sufficient income/social safety net. That's funny, most anecdotes I've heard related to this have doctors that continually suggest losing weight to patients and completely missing more serious issues that are the actual cause of their problems.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:British people shouldn't be able to make tv shows. It's all panel shows keeping the worst comedians employed and sci-fi that makes Andromeda seem intelligent. But Taskmaster though.
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