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Mega64 posted:Kyle Shannahan is the Dak Prescott of coaches. In all fairness Kyle chokes on much bigger moments than Dak.
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really queer Christmas posted:God can you imagine the heartbreaking playoff losses putting him on nola would cause? I'm thinking multiple game winning kick off returns for TDs. Losing on a safety on the first play of overtime. Still immeasurably better than the Dennis Allen experience.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:23
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the chicago bears have decided the coach to develop their first-ever #1 pick quarterback is matt loving eberflus, what a joke
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Feb 12, 2024 05:25
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Losing on a safety on the first play of overtime. No doubt. The games would at least be watchable, and the regular season would be this dominant juggernaut of a team.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:30
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How often did Andy have heartbreaking losses before he finally broke through? Saying a guy who’s lost two SBs to the best QB of all time, in OT no less, is a choker is such a ridiculous hot take.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:44
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How is Mahomes considered the best of all time already when he got smoked by Brady in that Super Bowl lol
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Feb 12, 2024 05:46
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:How is Mahomes considered the best of all time already when he got smoked by Brady in that Super Bowl lol Did you actually watch that game?
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Feb 12, 2024 05:49
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football games are one on one matchups between quarterbacks and zero other players
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Feb 12, 2024 05:50
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Quiet Feet posted:In all fairness Kyle chokes on much bigger moments than Dak. Kyle chokes in conference championships and Super Bowls, which Dak will never play in.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:54
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Quiet Feet posted:In all fairness Kyle chokes on much bigger moments than Dak. I'll allow that, Dak dreams of choking in the Super Bowl when he's stuck choking in the divisional round. Relentlessboredomm posted:How often did Andy have heartbreaking losses before he finally broke through? Technically three SBs to QB GOATs including 28-3. The issue is that all three times he's held a lead and didn't trust his offense enough to R U N and maintain the lead. This year was especially egregious since he had loving OPotY CMC, arguably THE best RB in the league, and didn't rely on him to bleed clock and gain enough yardage to get points. Shannahan has had plenty of opportunities to prove himself, and he's gained many leads, but he just simply cannot be trusted to win the most important game in the clutch. He is a choker, plain and simple, and if your ceiling is "Losing the Super Bowl" that is fine, but 49ers fans could stand to gamble to do better.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:55
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loving shocker that a man raised from literal birth to be a coach's son takes the sane, safe, sensible conservative option every opportunity he's offered to take it.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:57
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Mega64 posted:I'll allow that, Dak dreams of choking in the Super Bowl when he's stuck choking in the divisional round. You can’t grind out the clock running the ball with a 7 point lead to start the second half. That’s not “cruise to victory” territory. He’s got some issues as a game day coach but losing to Brady and Mahomes with Matt Ryan, Jimmy G and Brock Purdy on the other side isn’t an indictment, it’s loving miraculous it was ever close enough for people to call it a choke job.
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Feb 12, 2024 05:59
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Did you actually watch that game? I think we got bored and did beer pong
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Feb 12, 2024 06:00
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SKULL.GIF posted:loving shocker that a man raised from literal birth to be a coach's son takes the sane, safe, sensible conservative option every opportunity he's offered to take it. My favorite moment of a sports article this year:  https://theathletic.com/5225441/2024/01/24/kyle-shanahan-49ers-belichick-carroll-kawakami/
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SKULL.GIF posted:loving shocker that a man raised from literal birth to be a coach's son takes the sane, safe, sensible conservative option every opportunity he's offered to take it. Wouldn’t running the ball a bunch and trying to coast with a small lead be the “sane, safe, sensible conservative option”?
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Feb 12, 2024 06:01
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Mega64 posted:Technically three SBs to QB GOATs including 28-3. The issue is that all three times he's held a lead and didn't trust his offense enough to R U N and maintain the lead. This one...was odd like with the Falcons. But in the first loss to the Chiefs I remember going back through that fourth quarter and every single play made sense and worked if it wasn't for Chris Jones slapping a few balls down randomly at the line. He couldn't really have run the game out probably, receivers were getting open, Handsome Jimmy missed a wide open TD deep. Not that it would have ended the game but it would have made it a lot harder. So like 2 out of 3 I lay some blame on him but not that one. On the other hand he's been to three super bowls, or two as HC and one where he was the reason they were there. I mean...if that's failure I would have spent a lot of my life appreciating the failure honestly. e: I know this comes off as haughty from a Chiefs fan these days, just saying, failing at a super high level means that you're getting to a super high level pretty often. Which is good. And depending on what you think of Matt Ryan back then he's been doing it with QBs no one really expected to work out. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 06:03
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Mega64 posted:I'll allow that, Dak dreams of choking in the Super Bowl when he's stuck choking in the divisional round. McCaffrey ran 22 times and only averaged 3.6 yards per carry.
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Feb 12, 2024 06:07
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DeimosRising posted:McCaffrey ran 22 times and only averaged 3.6 yards per carry. I wonder if Deebo's hamstring changed up the plan some with their running attack. He came back, but, maybe they knew he wasn't quite right and didn't want to use him in that fashion either as a decoy or occasional ball carrier like they do.
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Feb 12, 2024 06:11
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They should cut him imo
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Feb 12, 2024 06:11
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Grittybeard posted:I wonder if Deebo's hamstring changed up the plan some with their running attack. He came back, but, maybe they knew he wasn't quite right and didn't want to use him in that fashion either as a decoy or occasional ball carrier like they do. I recall one strong rush after he came back but yeah I'm sure knowing one of your best weapons is out there on a bum leg changes things. I know there was a ton of noise after the Packers game about how he was supposed to be the focal point of the game plan and Shanny just like... didn't adjust after Deebo went down. Like they called a jet sweep or something for Jennings and everyone understandably went "WTF?" and after the game Shanahan had to say "oh yeah we literally forgot Deebo wasn't on the field when we called that play my bad". He's a critical piece of the gameplan and having him unavailable seemed to be a problem. Not saying that's the specific reason they lost or anything. Chiefs good, blocked XP, weirdo punt bounce off guy's foot, failing to capitalize on turnovers etc. But it didn't help.
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Feb 12, 2024 06:28
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Grittybeard posted:I wonder if Deebo's hamstring changed up the plan some with their running attack. He came back, but, maybe they knew he wasn't quite right and didn't want to use him in that fashion either as a decoy or occasional ball carrier like they do. I really expected them to break out the wingback usage he had in 21. If there were ever a time Deebo would be ok with it, the Super Bowl would be the time.
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Feb 12, 2024 06:29
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:I think we got bored and did beer pong Mahomes was loving incredible, escaping pressure, constantly running for his life throwing sideways passes in the air and then they bounce off the dudes facemask in the end zone. He was absolutely betrayed by his team.
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Feb 12, 2024 06:53
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Did you actually watch that game?
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DeimosRising posted:McCaffrey ran 22 times and only averaged 3.6 yards per carry. 3.6 * 3 > 10
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Feb 12, 2024 07:06
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DeimosRising posted:McCaffrey ran 22 times and only averaged 3.6 yards per carry. should have called more effective running plays tbh
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Mega64 posted:3.6 * 3 > 10 He averaged 10 yards a reception, should have just thrown it to him 70 times.
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Feb 12, 2024 07:14
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Kyle Shanahan should pack it up and come home to where he belongs. The Dallas Cowboys. There’s nowhere more comfortable to choke
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Feb 12, 2024 07:17
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I guess when you think about it there was literally no way for the 9ers to win this game so we can't really criticize Shanahan. no decision be made as head coach and/or offensive playcaller could of impacted the game positively. just like in 2016, 2019, 2020, and 2021, the players let him down
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Feb 12, 2024 07:19
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It's possible to be imperfect and also be unquestionably one of the best people in the world at your job
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Feb 12, 2024 07:36
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who suggested he wasn't? he's been to conference/league championships four times in six years or whatever. he's obviously one of the best. his Achilles heel is just more like an Achilles anywhere-below-the-knee
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Feb 12, 2024 07:38
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I was probably reading harsher criticism into some of the lolKyle posts than people intended, my bad. I have a soft spot for Can't Win The Big One guys who I feel like could absolutely win the big one if it weren't for the cosmic alignment of bad luck and a healthy (but non-fatal!) dash of self-inflicted problems Andy Reid overcame his clock poo poo eventually so there's hope for everyone imo
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Feb 12, 2024 07:44
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the clock stuff was his obvious problem but he had similar (in outcome) playcalling-with-a-lead issues especially against good teams. I've said it a couple times but this really reminded me of the 04 superbowl from the loser's side, where it felt like they had control the first half but I had a sinking feeling. then the fourth quarter rolled around
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CMC looked pretty beat up
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CMC had 30 goddam touches. I mean it's the super bowl so dump your clip but they probably used him close to the physical limit. Deebo having 11 targets and 3 rushes for 41 yards seems like a bigger problem. He was a focal point and got shut down (or Purdy couldn't get him the ball, I'd have to rewatch the game). But yeah I don't think CMC was really the problem, he WAS the 49ers offense.
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Feb 12, 2024 08:02
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Deebo was not 100% coming into the game, and was further injured during this game, so the lack of targets makes sense.
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Feb 12, 2024 08:04
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11 targets is a shitload. He led the team. 3 receptions for like 0 yards is the problem
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Feb 12, 2024 08:05
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Sorry, I meant the lack of receptions, not targets. Drunk and tired.
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Feb 12, 2024 08:06
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Docjowles posted:CMC had 30 goddam touches. I mean it's the super bowl so dump your clip but they probably used him close to the physical limit. Deebo having 11 targets and 3 rushes for 41 yards seems like a bigger problem. He was a focal point and got shut down (or Purdy couldn't get him the ball, I'd have to rewatch the game). But yeah I don't think CMC was really the problem, he WAS the 49ers offense. I'm not saying he was, they should have spread the load around so he's not getting 4 straight carries ending with hitting two guys.
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Feb 12, 2024 08:08
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Anyone saying to fire kyle in this thread is a dumbass whether they're trolling or not
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yeah unless he completely loses the players you can't fire him for at least four more years
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