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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Zodium posted:yep
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Feb 12, 2024 16:30
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Flournival Dixon posted:the sino soviet split was a tragedy for mankind, the fall of the ussr is just an extension of the original sin of chauvinist revisionism god i cant maintain the loving discipline it was a loving tragedy look at that loving photo of the big dish thing gently caress Flournival Dixon has issued a correction as of 16:32 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 16:30
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https://twitter.com/MikeJ89388797/status/1756620356243128387?s=19
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Feb 12, 2024 16:31
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lobster shirt posted:the fall of the ussr was a tragedy for mankind
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Feb 12, 2024 16:31
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Meh, we have other decaying observatories and US hasn't even properly finished collapsing yet.
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Feb 12, 2024 16:36
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that one was operating on behalf of the working class :(
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Feb 12, 2024 16:37
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There won't be any workers to need observatories in our independent contractor future.
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Feb 12, 2024 16:59
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https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1756967999460839633 This guy turned realist all of a sudden, I guess the Zaluzhny firing was a serious wake up call. He even correctly identifies the problem in his bio, that Ukraine needs manpower and ammunition before anything else. Of course, he fails to understand that neither of these problems are fixable for Ukraine, certainly not in the short term and probably not long term either.
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Feb 12, 2024 17:07
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maybe he thinks they can conscript people in other countries and send them to ukraine like they've been wanting to do for israel very funny that anyone thinks ukraine still matters to the empire in any real way
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Feb 12, 2024 17:08
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Flournival Dixon posted:i don't know much about the new guy, does he also have a weirdly proportioned bandera portrait in his office In a world where everyone is mandated to have a bandera portrait in their office, maybe having one where he objectively looks like poo poo is actually an act of resistance?
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Feb 12, 2024 17:14
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Flournival Dixon posted:maybe he thinks they can conscript people in other countries and send them to ukraine like they've been wanting to do for israel ukraine is more important and worth more in real terms than israel imo, yet they would rather send artillery shells and everything to Israel and burn all their bridges for israel tham for ukraine
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Feb 12, 2024 17:19
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Now that Europe have proven themselves the ultimate cucks I think it's okay to ditch Ukraine and let Europe fall apart and deindustrialize, but also if the empire was serious and lucid they'd be focusing on China. Tuckers right about at least that much lol The funniest thing is that you could easily sell never ending war in Ukraine to the dipshit socdems and anarchists who are at least smart enough to recognize Israel as an openly genocidal project.
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Feb 12, 2024 17:29
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Flournival Dixon posted:Now that Europe have proven themselves the ultimate cucks I think it's okay to ditch Ukraine and let Europe fall apart and deindustrialize, but also if the empire was serious and lucid they'd be focusing on China. Tuckers right about at least that much lol Deindustrialization also has the recognized benefit of crushing organized industrial labor
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Feb 12, 2024 17:34
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Flournival Dixon posted:the zizeks and chomskys of the world
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Feb 12, 2024 17:35
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bedpan posted:Deindustrialization also has the recognized benefit of crushing organized industrial labor Yeah it really kills any chance of anyone building anything other than reactionary dipshit states obsessed with ancient grudges or transphobia out of the ruins. Not that I could predict the future of communism worldwide but I feel like there will not be anything of note happening anywhere in Europe in the next fiscal quarter or even the next couple dozen, which is much farther than the modern capitalist states seem willing to consider.
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Feb 12, 2024 17:37
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lobster shirt posted:the fall of the ussr was a tragedy for mankind i mean it might have been terminal depending on how badly we handle the climate crisis we literally might not survive the mistake
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Feb 12, 2024 17:38
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lobster shirt posted:the fall of the ussr was a tragedy for mankind
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Feb 12, 2024 17:38
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Flournival Dixon posted:Now that Europe have proven themselves the ultimate cucks I think it's okay to ditch Ukraine and let Europe fall apart and deindustrialize, but also if the empire was serious and lucid they'd be focusing on China. Tuckers right about at least that much lol The US is severely overextended, which is why they can't respond effectively to attacks on their troops in Iraq and Syria, nor are they able to do anything about the Red Sea blockade. Because of that overextension they can't form a coherent response to China. Biden tried with the semiconductor sanctions which backfired in their face hard.
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Feb 12, 2024 17:43
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Flournival Dixon posted:the sino soviet split was a tragedy for mankind, the fall of the ussr is just an extension of the original sin of chauvinist revisionism One of the most important points of note of a critique of the CPSU is how vertiginous was the fall of leadership calibre there after Stalin, which was also consequential of his term. The CPC criticized Stalin for personalism, especially by the centralization of authority, as a means of his survivalist outlook in relation to the USSR. The political crisis due to the attempt on Lenin's life and declining health -- and the subsequent inability of the Party to properly establish means of self-discipline during that crucial phase -- essentially enabled careerists and operators, which Khrushchev is a great representative of. The roster for the vanguard was a wipeout. Kollontai was the only of the great revolutionary names who lasted into the 50s. By the end of Stalin's life, much of the administrative means established during his term extended far past his own measures, creating the future problems that would find a certain reprieve only with Brezhnev. The CPC (imho correctly in the terms they set in perspective) diagnoses the faults and merits of Stalin's tenure, which were rather ironically validated by how Khrushchev proceeds to act as leader. In comparison, while Mao did attain a great level of central authority, the CPC maintained and developed a qualified roster while having much better self-discipline. Deng Xiaoping could only become leader because there was a Zhou Enlai as an extremely capable political steward who had the admiration of Mao -- all of them communists, each with different outlooks and perspectives, but all working from the same fundamental methodology and a measure of intellectual rigor. In the Soviet Union, the decline of that prowess in terms of vanguard is terribly awful -- Khrushchev is flagrantly weaker than any of his predecessors, same thing with Brezhnev. As an example of that, both of them have listed their speech collections as their relevant works, which have been mostly written by others. The hardcore Leninists who could form new rosters to break with the bureaucratic quagmire were assigned to important administrative duties, but outside the central structures of power. By being a party of no vanguard, it was a matter of time for Gorbachev to happen.
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Feb 12, 2024 17:45
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why do you think the Soviet party has those weaknesses ? some of it seems like pre-revolutionary fault lines that were never totally addressed
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Feb 12, 2024 17:52
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spacetoaster posted:He should run for president. Don't you think he's a little young?
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Feb 12, 2024 17:56
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That makes a great deal of sense, figures that China would have accurately diagnosed the problem decades ahead of time.euphronius posted:why do you think the Soviet party has those weaknesses ? I dunno if it was avoidable or not considering the giant utterly hosed war and circumstances of Europe in the first half of the century and the necessity for strength of the personality running the major Communist power trying to survive the ire of the entire capitalist world but I guess it was an instructive lesson for the successful communists of China and for the unsuccessful ones in the west who get to watch the fall of the empire from the inside (that's us) They could have probably built something better if they had the opportunity, they probably could have built something better if the capitalists had allied with Stalin in the first place against Hitler, they probably could have built something better had lenin lived to 100. History happens I guess, sometimes decades of it all at once. Flournival Dixon has issued a correction as of 18:02 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 17:57
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wasn't the PRC aligned with the west during the back half of the cold war?
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Feb 12, 2024 18:05
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I do kinda wonder what the modern state of the PRC would be in a timeline without a sino Soviet split
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Feb 12, 2024 18:08
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lobster shirt posted:the fall of the ussr was a tragedy for mankind
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Feb 12, 2024 18:11
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A timeline without the sino Soviet split would be one in which the Soviets did not fall to revisionism and internal decay, probably one in which Stalin managed to maintain the strength of the party past his death. China would be much more quickly and strongly developed than they were in reality, and the two powers together would have probably achieved things unthinkable to our present moment. A timeline in which the sino Soviet split does not occur but in which the Soviets still failed probably just leads to the failure of China as well, making it into another India or something. I sometimes think it unwise to think too much about the world that could have happened without the sino Soviet split, there's too much potential for a world that never existed and the intoxicating tragedy of it probably can't be that productive. Flournival Dixon has issued a correction as of 18:17 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 18:11
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If you want to moderate your dreams of a Sino-Soviet world, NATO likely would have started WW3 to keep the commies from ascending too high.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:18
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That could also be true lol, makes the sadness a bit less potent
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Feb 12, 2024 18:19
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1stGear posted:If you want to moderate your dreams of a Sino-Soviet world, NATO likely would have started WW3 to keep the commies from ascending too high. Particularly if they hadn't addressed the TRPF by outsourcing to China. They would be both more able to fight that war, and due to the TRPF, would have more reason to.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:21
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Frosted Flake posted:Particularly if they hadn't addressed the TRPF by outsourcing to China. They would be both more able to fight that war, and due to the TRPF, would have more reason to. That's actually an extremely convincing point as well, it's easy to forget the degree to which the west dismantled itself at China's unarmed behest.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:25
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why come i cant just comprehend the totality of human economic and political interaction all at once? it would be so much easier!
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Feb 12, 2024 18:31
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Flournival Dixon posted:That makes sense, I'd like to think that even Kiev could be reunified with Russia and my perception of irreconcilability of the western ukrainians is just a result of my being located on the other side of the world. My hypothesis about NK pivoting toward a "non peaceful" reunification narrative is that when certain other geopolitcal flashpoint in Asia goes red, the N Korea need to be in a type of tensed relationship with the South in order to switch from cold war to warm war in a hurry. So they are laying out the ideological framework to get themselves ready. Of course there is other simply explanation if you want, the US nuclear sub has visited S Korea a couple times since Yoon is elected so NK has to do something to warm SK.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:32
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guess i better brush up on modern SK before it's ukraine 2 fuckin sick of war
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Feb 12, 2024 18:38
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Flournival Dixon posted:A timeline without the sino Soviet split would be one in which the Soviets did not fall to revisionism and internal decay, probably one in which Stalin managed to maintain the strength of the party past his death. China would be much more quickly and strongly developed than they were in reality, and the two powers together would have probably achieved things unthinkable to our present moment. Best case is probably today's China would have been achieved around ~2000-2010 or so for both China and the USSR constituent republics. Nice, but not a world changer significantly more than how China is already changing the world in our current timeline. Like, have you guys been to China? Sure there's a lot of poor parts of the country still, but the infrastructure in big cities, the high speed rail, the incredible roll out of green energy, the 4th generation nuclear power plants, the exponential pace of development, and the actual ideological commitment to common prosperity at the top levels of the leadership are all literally unthinkable in the West. It's like a min-maxer playing Civ. China's exporting of clean energy, electric vehicles, infrastructure development, etc. to the third world will be critical to human development in the coming century, and it's all happening in our reality. Boat Stuck has issued a correction as of 18:47 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 18:42
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euphronius posted:why do you think the Soviet party has those weaknesses ? imho Lenin's tenure needed more time. It wasn't by happenstance that he was the leader of the party, he had the ability and will. Like, this man got people with very strong personalities - Trotsky, Stalin, Rykov, Bukharin, Kollontai etc - to follow him with full loyalty. He got to work as soon as he could through the Central Committee, adhered to it while not slacking on discipline action: he refused to take resignations from the Workers' Opposition (the easy way) and put them to deliberation under the party - effectively keeping it together even with disagreement. I don't think any successor could do the same without suffering real factionalism in the conditions they were in back then
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Feb 12, 2024 18:42
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Y'all mad at the Sino-Soviet split while I'm still mad about the Miracle on the Vistula. We are not the same.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:45
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Frosted Flake posted:Particularly if they hadn't addressed the TRPF by outsourcing to China. They would be both more able to fight that war, and due to the TRPF, would have more reason to. Lmao, good point
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Feb 12, 2024 18:55
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Flournival Dixon posted:guess i better brush up on modern SK before it's ukraine 2 the only thing I remember is that one time when it was revealed that a guru had turned the current president (and daughter of a previous dictator/president) into her personal puppet. And also maybe that one disaster with the ferry that capsized might have been a mass ritual human sacrifice by the guru but that one is slightly far fetched.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:56
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Boat Stuck posted:Best case is probably today's China would have been achieved around ~2000-2010 or so for both China and the USSR constituent republics. Nice, but not a world changer significantly more than how China is already changing the world in our current timeline. Yeah that's the whole thing! The fact that China built an advanced socialist state on the verge of eclipsing the american empire as the predominant worldwide influence and already past them in terms of standard of living with literally all the major world powers against their entire ideology is a big fuckin deal and if the soviets were on board it they probably could have done it not only faster but with more combined humane support to other nations worldwide and less IMF debt trap evil and genocide and starvation. The idea that NATO would have started WW3 to prevent that is most convincing to me.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:57
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January 6 Survivor posted:the only thing I remember is that one time when it was revealed that a guru had turned the current president (and daughter of a previous dictator/president) into her personal puppet. man learning a whole new mode of capitalist stupidity and insane garbage largely divorced from nazism and overt white supremacy sounds like a daunting task
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Feb 12, 2024 18:59
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